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12-11-2011, 08:05 PM
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Disagree. Getting a chance and being given a chance are 2 very different things. Then there is earning a chance. No one is given anything, especially a kid that has come into an organization that has started to win, in Bingo last year and a team that has an above 500 records so far this year.

Look at a guy like Daugavins, he wasn't given anything, he's earned it every step of the way... now, he's in that lineup for good and may have very well earned a 1 way deal starting next year and could establish himself as a guy who gets 15-18 mins a night in the NHL. That's what a rebuilding team does.

Filatov has NHL assets, doesn't mean he's an NHL player.

We'll have to agree to disagree then, every player has a different road to the NHL, Filatov and Daugavins. Daugavins wanted at least 10 games in the NHL beforme christmas or he could go play in his country, Filatov ain't different, he'll go in his country if he can't play in the NHL. He's younger and better, in my opinion, but I think Daugavins has his place in the Senators, it's other players I have problem with who don't deserve it

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12-11-2011, 08:52 PM
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Butler has been much worse this year after a decent stretch when he was called up last season. I think people are expecting way more from this guy than what he is capable of producing yet.

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12-12-2011, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by theyellowsub View Post
Butler has been much worse this year after a decent stretch when he was called up last season. I think people are expecting way more from this guy than what he is capable of producing yet.
For sure they are expecting too much.

His career trajectory could be a lot like Tyler Bozak - coming into the NHL joining a team that was out of a playoff race and lighting it up, Bozak scored at a 60 pt pace over half a season for a team that was out of the playoff race. So Leafs fans all said he had made it and was going to score 60-70 the next year. Then he gets 30 pts. Lots of people were throwing him under the bus, saying he was terrible etc. But the truth was that he just wasn't ready, especially to be a first line center.

Butler is in a pretty similar boat - he's 24 but still incredibly raw, he needs to be given the proper amount of time to develop. He hasn't been great but for a 4th liner he still gets a few chances here and there, and he won us a game already this year. He just needs to stick with it and keep working, I don't get why people are turning on a guy with 50 NHL games

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12-12-2011, 10:30 AM
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Murray and Maclean put Butler in the lineup just to troll Sens fans. Best part is, they aint even mad.

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12-12-2011, 11:07 AM
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When Butler was up last year, before being a part of the AHL champs, he had started to really find that gift of finding an open spot and getting a good shot off. That is a goal scorers gift. Even for guys like Brett Hull and Dany Heatley, they might be invisible all game, and then - WHAMMO!

But Butler doesnt seem to be able to find that open spot, or isnt getting the puck when he's there, and so, no whammo's.

He's been:
- scouted,
- injured,
- sapped of confidence
- over his 15 minutes of adrenalin fame,
- cursed with the same initials as Brandon Bochenski?

It was there, we saw it. How do we get it back?

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