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12-12-2011, 03:47 AM
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How to fix the horrible PP?

We have to talk about it:

I'm sorry, but our Power Play has been pathetic this year so far.
It's a freaking joke. Every PP "oppoturnity" we get I'm more afraid of a goal against than excited about a possibility to score with the men advantage.

The Rags game was just the top of the ice-mountian.
We have had this Problem such a long time now, and there is still no solution in sight.

Someone has spoken the truth in the gdt last night - we have so many so called "offensive defenseman" but we're playing forwards at the blueline on the PP.

So how do you fix our Powerplay Problem?

I post my suggestions later.

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12-12-2011, 03:58 AM
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Keep our feet moving and don't let it become Static. Get the puck in the zone more effeciently. Oh and don't keep coughing the puck up to the other team.

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We have to talk about it:

I'm sorry, but our Power Play has been pathetic this year so far.
It's a freaking joke. Every PP "oppoturnity" we get I'm more afraid of a goal against than excited about a possibility to score with the men advantage.

The Rags game was just the top of the ice-mountian.
We have had this Problem such a long time now, and there is still no solution in sight.

Someone has spoken the truth in the gdt last night - we have so many so called "offensive defenseman" but we're playing forwards at the blueline on the PP.

So how do you fix our Powerplay Problem?

I post my suggestions later.
In my opinion, getting Marc-Andre Gragnani off the Power Play would be a start.

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12-12-2011, 04:31 AM
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In my opinion, getting Marc-Andre Gragnani off the Team would be a start.
Fixed that for you.

It's sad that we kind need MAG right now. He did play alright againt the NYR though.

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Marc-Andre Gragnani...that is all. Thanks.

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12-12-2011, 07:39 AM
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Get a 2nd unit that can score a goal.

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12-12-2011, 08:56 AM
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19th in the league. Definitely could use a boost.

The biggest thing has already been pointed out - gotta move more. Keep Grags away from Ehrhoff, as well. If MAG gets the puck, it's probably going to Ehrhoff. Not only is it entirely predictable, but it nullifies Ehrhoff's booming point shot that many of us fell in love with at the start of the season.

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12-12-2011, 09:03 AM
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As soon as Grags gets the puck he might as well say "HEY CHRISTIAN! I'M PASSING YOU THE PUCK WHETHER YOUR OPEN OR NOT! I HOPE NOBODY COVERS YOU!"

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12-12-2011, 09:15 AM
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trade Roy and Gragnani

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12-12-2011, 09:25 AM
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Learn how to dump the puck in and retrieve it. To many finesse entries which lead directly to turnovers which lead to short handed goals against.

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Grags needs to get off the PP because he refuses to shoot the puck. On the top unit that just lets the other team gun for Ehrhoff. I also think Roy is awful on the power play in general in that he tries too many low percentage cross ice passes and his shot selection is just terrible. Losing Boyes hurt the top unit as well. The biggest thing is to keep moving, don't be stagnant.

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Convert rather than shooting wide/high/off the pipe? They, just like at 5-on-5, have had a number of glorious chances that they haven't buried.

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Hire Arniel to run the special teams again.

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12-12-2011, 10:48 AM
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Grags needs to get off the PP because he refuses to shoot the puck. On the top unit that just lets the other team gun for Ehrhoff. I also think Roy is awful on the power play in general in that he tries too many low percentage cross ice passes and his shot selection is just terrible. Losing Boyes hurt the top unit as well. The biggest thing is to keep moving, don't be stagnant.
That's been the biggest thing for years, yet they've never fixed it. Coaching?

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12-12-2011, 11:45 AM
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Switch Vanek and Stafford. Drew's shot is terrible and his decision making has been just as bad. Vanek would still be able to crash the net and set screens, but at the moment, the forward with the best shot and offensive skill in general is being chained to a position that doesn't let him take advantage of either.

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How to fix the PP?

Simple: Take Stafford off the units until he EARNS a spot through hard work 5-5.

Take Gragnani off the point until he learns not to play hot potato back there and shooting (not passing) is ALWAYS an option.

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Hire Arniel to run the special teams again.
His impact is incredibly overrated on here. They had one good year with him running the special teams.

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Movement has been mentioned, that's always my bug-a-boo about how they go about their business out there. I hate them standing still, it's so much easier to defend. They do it most 5-on-3 where the puck moves and the players do not. Infuriating. But since I've beaten that now dead horse into glue long ago, I'll stick with simple execution as the basis for its ills. Score when the opportunities are there. Roy's put three or four over open nets. Vanek's hit the post more times than that. Stafford's put the puck into just about every conceiveable piece of goaltender equipment and had next to nothing trickle in. Ehrhoff is covered, as we've seen. Gragnani...

That second unit would benefit greatly from the team getting healthy. Boyes, Ennis, Myers, and Gerbe have all had PP effecitiveness at times, all are out. It would also help if the Adam-Leino-Kassian trio could replicate some of their ES zone time on the PP as they've been worked in of late as the 2nd unit.

To put a few coaching cliches -- move their feet, get the puck to the open man, take open shots (and they need not be rafter-scratching windups, GET IT THERE) and get themselves to the net. Rinse. Repeat.

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His impact is incredibly overrated on here. They had one good year with him running the special teams.
That was the last time they had a good powerplay. Overrated, yes. Better than now, yes. At this point, if Ruff and the staff are going to insist on icing non-functional personnel, then they need to maximize the productivity of that personnel, which means a stratagem change.

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Columbus' PP ranks under Arniel:

2010-11: 29th
2011-12: 27th

Doesn't look like his brilliant PP strategies are doing too much for the Blue Jackets.

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Columbus' PP ranks under Arniel:

2010-11: 29th
2011-12: 27th

Doesn't look like his brilliant PP strategies are doing too much for the Blue Jackets.
He's head coach, though, not special teams coach.

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12-12-2011, 12:39 PM
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Switch Vanek and Stafford. Drew's shot is terrible and his decision making has been just as bad. Vanek would still be able to crash the net and set screens, but at the moment, the forward with the best shot and offensive skill in general is being chained to a position that doesn't let him take advantage of either.
Heh, it's a tough choice, but I wouldn't mind seeing Vanek on the right side, the other team knows they have to key in on him, and he has the ability to make something happen, whereas opposed to the front of the net, while is he one of the best in front, he is limited in his ability to 'make a difference'.

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That was the last time they had a good powerplay. Overrated, yes. Better than now, yes. At this point, if Ruff and the staff are going to insist on icing non-functional personnel, then they need to maximize the productivity of that personnel, which means a stratagem change.
Scott Arniel was an assistant for 3 years here.

02-03 --> our PP was ranked 20th
03-04 --> our PP was ranked 19th

05-06 --> our PP was ranked 3rd with a 21.2% conversion rate.

Our success that year had much more to do with defenders struggling to adapt to the new rules than Arniel suddenly getting it as a PP coach.

Our PP since Arniel's departure

06-07 --> 17th
07-08 --> 14th
08-09 --> 7th with a 21% conversion rate
09-10 --> 17th
10-11 --> 9th with a 19.4 % conversion rate.


Since Arniel's departure we've had two season either at the same conversion rate or not far off. Overall in the previous 5 season we've had 2 good years and 3 poor years. With Arniel it was 1 good year and 2 poor years. If we struggle for the rest of this year then our ratio of successful PP years to poor ones will be the same as it was with Arniel. If we turn it around then we will have a 1 to 1 ratio of successful PPs to poor ones. Obviously thats better than the Arniel days.


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i'd like to see this unit.... (injuries considered)

Ehrhoff
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Vanek-Stafford

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Marc-Andre Gragnani GP 27 PP/TOI 78:17
Fifth on PP/TOI in team.

Do I need to say more?

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