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12-12-2011, 05:43 PM
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He's always been like this. He's not a puck mover. It's why the Isles needed to get a puck mover this summer.
That would imply the Isles did nothing this summer....

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12-12-2011, 05:57 PM
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The only game that he looked not so good in was the last one.......thats it imo
100% agree. Making a bad play that lead to a goal and playing over 25 minutes probably had something to do with it also.

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12-12-2011, 06:01 PM
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Absolutely asinine thread.

Anybody that thought Streit would be 100% back to where he was before the shoulder injury needs to slap themselves.



Yep. Called it in the preseason and got a ton of crap for it from the uniformed. Steve Staios playing the first pairing with Mark Streit was another completely brainless move by this franchise.
This.

Instead of overpaying for one solid defenseman, we load up on bonuses and get scrubs like Pandolfo and Staios.

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Yeah, Okposo is really rippin' it up now!!!
He might not be 'rippin it up' but 7pts in his last 9 games is certainly pretty solid.

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12-12-2011, 06:10 PM
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I wouldn't say he's had only one bad game, but not enough to warrant this kind of whining. Tavares has been disappointing a few times, does that mean he's lost his game? ( YES )

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12-12-2011, 06:17 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Very disappointing to see fans scapegoat Streit when he's probably the best defenseman on the team.
This. Has he been as good as he was with us for the first couple years?-no. But let's face the facts: he's 34 and missed a full season of hockey. With that said he's still our best defensemen, and is playing the best consistently. He's the most important player on our defense, and quite frankly I have no really problem with him. Sure he's not as good-but hey it's not like he has great players pairing up with him.


edit: and of course we overpaid for him, on a long salary. How else do Islander fans think we can attract UFAs?

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12-12-2011, 09:48 PM
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That would imply the Isles did nothing this summer....
Um, what?

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12-12-2011, 09:54 PM
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With that said he's still our best defensemen, and is playing the best consistently. He's the most important player on our defense, and quite frankly I have no really problem with him. Sure he's not as good-but hey it's not like he has great players pairing up with him.
With the way Hamonic has been playing, I think it's safe to say that Travis worked his way into that spot.

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12-12-2011, 10:00 PM
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Streit had a pretty foul first half of the season before the injury. That year his play picked up right around the olympics. In reality he is a great offensive defenseman on your 3-4 pairing. He, like most everyone on this club, is playing on the line above their skill set.

I wouldn't kill him for it, but at the same time his defense is not that good, and physically he is a stick figure playing against linebackers. I think that probably wouldn't be so bad if we actually had a physical defensive corpse to surround him with, but we don't. We have Hamonic, an old geezer in Staios, and that's it.

I will say the best we saw from him was his first season here. He is now a solid level below that point, and figuring in his age I doubt he will ever get back to that level again. I hope I am wrong, but this season I do not see it.

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12-13-2011, 12:42 AM
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That would imply the Isles did nothing this summer....
Because they didn't?

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Streit has been awful in his own end this year.

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Maybe 24+ minutes a night for a guy who missed all of last season is too much? I think it might be but who could pick up the slack?

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12-13-2011, 07:51 AM
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Captain Mark Streit looks awful this year! He cant handle the puck, does not shoot the puck anymore, never plays the body and cant skate. SORRY ISLES FANS THE TRUTH HURTS
has he been great..no...does he have a nhl caliber defensman to play with...nope..mark strei is the least of this teams problems

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12-13-2011, 08:25 AM
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I haven't noticed it that much.. and I watch every game. Maybe the "C" got to his head a little and added some pressure... but he's forced to put on extra performance playing with Staios.

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12-13-2011, 04:03 PM
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Don't have the time to read this thread, but based on the title alone, I've been SOOO frustrated w/Streit all year long.

Very slow. VERY VERY slow.

Clearly has lost a step.

Also doesn't look very confident.

Hoping it's something that he can correct and that age isn't the issue.

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Don't have the time to read this thread, but based on the title alone, I've been SOOO frustrated w/Streit all year long.

Very slow. VERY VERY slow.

Clearly has lost a step.

Also doesn't look very confident.

Hoping it's something that he can correct and that age isn't the issue.

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12-13-2011, 04:24 PM
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Streit is the worst defenseman in the NHL. Trade him for Gervais please.










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12-13-2011, 07:24 PM
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Streit had a pretty foul first half of the season before the injury. That year his play picked up right around the olympics. In reality he is a great offensive defenseman on your 3-4 pairing. He, like most everyone on this club, is playing on the line above their skill set.

I wouldn't kill him for it, but at the same time his defense is not that good, and physically he is a stick figure playing against linebackers. I think that probably wouldn't be so bad if we actually had a physical defensive corpse to surround him with, but we don't. We have Hamonic, an old geezer in Staios, and that's it.

I will say the best we saw from him was his first season here. He is now a solid level below that point, and figuring in his age I doubt he will ever get back to that level again. I hope I am wrong, but this season I do not see it.
That's a complete crock.

For several years, Mark Streit couldn't earn enough praise... offensively AND defensively.

Go back and watch tape... he went from a top pairing Dman to this (however you'd like to describe his horse **** play).

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His play has been VERY disappointing.

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That's a complete crock.

For several years, Mark Streit couldn't earn enough praise... offensively AND defensively.

Go back and watch tape... he went from a top pairing Dman to this (however you'd like to describe his horse **** play).
That's a crock, and I raise you a BS, too. You go watch the tape. His first year, yeah, no argument from me, but his second year he came off the summer break and played this bad. You need to do your research, because he was coughing up the puck, moving like a sloth through the neutral zone on rushes, playing extremely weakly in his own zone. IT wasn't until he got motivated by the concept of playing for Suisse that he actually started showing up like the Streit we thought we knew.

And this year he has been mediocre at best with his offensive play being perhaps a C+ and his defense a D. That he is the Captain no less leading the charge is a laugher.

This club needs a real leader of the old school variety. A guy who goes out there, breaks some heads, demands results, and gets deep in the face of any lackadaisical weaklings. That is the polar opposite of Mark.

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Maybe 24+ minutes a night for a guy who missed all of last season is too much? I think it might be but who could pick up the slack?
Hamonic is the only player who has earned ice time like that, but do you really want to get a 21 year old kid that many minutes? Man what a guy like Brian Campbell would have been able to do here, would have only been another million or so more than Rolston to, and would have been had for cheap.

This teams defense outside of Hamonic and MacDonald is brutal.

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This might've been his worst game as an Islander. I wouldn't complain one bit if he was scratched for a game. Though we know that won't happen.

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he put no effort into that empty net goal. go watch it again, he just skaaaated along expecting it to miss the net. no hustle whatsoever...

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Streit is absolutely NOT our best defenseman! Especially as of late. There is only one thing that will bring your defense crumbling to the ground time after time, and that is BAD DECISIONS. On defense you can get away with slow players, small players, players that lack on offense. However, on defense BAD DECISIONS and bad hockey sense will bring failure every time.
I dont know how many of you have played defense in hockey, but defense was all I ever played, Streit makes LOTS of bad decisions(lately)... LOTS.
Out of all the positions in hockey, defense is the one were straying from the basics will hurt you the most.

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Mark Streit was not going to have a Striet like season — which is something I, and a few others said from the outset.

It is very difficult to come off the kind of injury he had and pick up right where he left off. This season is going to be a trying year for Streit, one where he will produce OK numbers, but likely off for him.

His timing, and play will likely improve as the season goes on.

The last few games were difficult for him, but the team made mistakes elsewhere as well —*best not to put it all on him.

It is also possible he feels a bit more pressure as Captain.

Overall, he will be fine, but I would never have expected an All-Star year this season. Much like Mike Peca when he cam e back from injury, and even to a degree Kyle Okposo — it takes time to get back into the grind, to get the timing, and speed. It also takes time to rebuild confidence — especially in a physical sense as I am sure there is a concern to re-injure something....


Anyhow — we have bigger issues then Streit. He needs help and support, not to be eliminated. Problem is — there is really nothing out there right now. I dont think it is wise to trade an asset for a rental, nor is it viable if the piece you bring in only last a season or two before bolting via free agency.

It has to be "home-grown" for now.

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Streit is absolutely NOT our best defenseman! Especially as of late. There is only one thing that will bring your defense crumbling to the ground time after time, and that is BAD DECISIONS. On defense you can get away with slow players, small players, players that lack on offense. However, on defense BAD DECISIONS and bad hockey sense will bring failure every time.
I dont know how many of you have played defense in hockey, but defense was all I ever played, Streit makes LOTS of bad decisions(lately)... LOTS.
Out of all the positions in hockey, defense is the one were straying from the basics will hurt you the most.
he made many more bad decisions last night

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