Streit is not a #1 defenseman so plays like last night should not surprise anyone when you expose a player like Streit to so much TOI. In the NHL, Streit is at BEST a 3rd or 4th spot Dman but one the Islanders where they have f'ng Staios as their #2, Streit is a #1
I think there are times when fans exaggerate how good a player is. Fans collectively overestimated Okposo's leadership abilities. And fans erroneously put Mark Streit in the category of an elite defenseman. Now, his every move is magnified, and wrongfully so. Yesterday's gaffe was terrible. I think that he feels the weight of that "C". He's still a good defenseman. But once again, I think this organization blows it by asking the fans. I know they look at the polls. The fans overwhelmingly voted for Streit, and he was probably the best choice in a poll. In reality, this team should not have a captain. Having a captain is not a rule. The Islanders are still trying to figure things out. After all, they don't have much to work with. They have their hopes pinned on a 21 year-old center who appears to have a primary job of making two 9th round picks look good... and he's doing it. There's just this chronic force-feeding that fans have to stop buying into. Like Rick DiPietro ever being a good goaltender. He really never was. He was a default All-Star and a default U.S. Olympic starter, where, if Ryan Miller wasn't a rookie, he would have started,and frankly, should have. Then they force-fed Mark Streit being an elite defenseman. The guy is really good, but he's not one of the best in the league.
In the end, the guy is not any better or worse than he was two years ago. He's got the responsibility of Captain on his mind. He's not just playing, and he should. I would have the utmost respect for him if he surrendered his C. It would be best for everyone.
Streit is not a #1 defenseman so plays like last night should not surprise anyone when you expose a player like Streit to so much TOI. In the NHL, Streit is at BEST a 3rd or 4th spot Dman but one the Islanders where they have f'ng Staios as their #2, Streit is a #1
This year he is not playing like a number 1 but if you are saying he has never been a number 1 in the past than you are just flat out completely wrong. Its obvious his game is suffering from missing an entire season. Hopefully his game comes back to him.
How about getting Streit a Legit #2/3 Dman Stay at Home kind who has size/ bite/ and can skate....
I am not talking about Jurcina/ Staios/ Mott/ Eaton/ Reese
Hams and Amac are fine as 2nd line pair
Perhaps can we find Streit a partner he does not have to babysit? either his partner is a guy to young or a guy ready for senior living......
Coming off injury...for missing a whole year....made the Captain......playing with a new Dman every night..... The guy should at best have an A ......Not the C....
Perhaps Finding a Dman for Streit to play with to help is a better idea then bashing Him......But why would Snow or Wang want to do that for?
There might be something to the whole pressure of being the captain. That was definitely evident when Kenny Jonsson was captain. But the difference is Kenny was still in his prime, and IIRC it was before all the concussions. But if it's a factor for Streit, I think it's a very small factor.
Streit is what 34 years old? He missed a full year, it isn't surprising at all that he's struggled this year. I'd like to say hopefully the organization recognizes this & will look to bring in a replacement #1 for next year but yeah well you know.
Streit is not a #1 defenseman so plays like last night should not surprise anyone when you expose a player like Streit to so much TOI. In the NHL, Streit is at BEST a 3rd or 4th spot Dman but one the Islanders where they have f'ng Staios as their #2, Streit is a #1
atleast not any more, but there have been times where he had 30+ minutes of ice time in a single game and he was flawless
it's like a cancer, some of it has to be confidence but yeh it's getting worse every game :|
Still back him to get out of it, not a number 1 defenseman though and I am not sure he should be captain, often people can thrive without having the added pressure of being the C.
We dont have anyone else so continue, hope Streit finds some form soon.
This year he is not playing like a number 1 but if you are saying he has never been a number 1 in the past than you are just flat out completely wrong. Its obvious his game is suffering from missing an entire season. Hopefully his game comes back to him.
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atleast not any more, but there have been times where he had 30+ minutes of ice time in a single game and he was flawless
Exactly what season do you think I'm talking about? Streit is not a #1 defenseman in the here and now (I could care less what he did his 1st season on the Island), he isn't even a #2 and the sooner the Islanders realize that (should have been this past offseason) and at least START by getting themselves a bonofide #1 and 2 we will be doomed to see repeats of late game defensive breakdowns.
That said if there is a good offer for Streit at the trade deadline and it would have to be an offer that improves this club positionally not prospect wise, I would have to consider it.
If that player is an improvement to an offensive position we can then maybe bring up De Haan (less likely), Ness, Wishart, Reese to finish the season and move up Mac and/or Hamonic.
Then in the offseason Garth has got to throw some of Wangsters money around for a true #1 Dman like a Suter or Weber, Garth can not fail next Free Agency period and has got to get some stud talent in here to help out the kids and aid this team in a successful 2012-2013 campaign..
This year he is not playing like a number 1 but if you are saying he has never been a number 1 in the past than you are just flat out completely wrong. Its obvious his game is suffering from missing an entire season. Hopefully his game comes back to him.
You are actually wrong. His second year he was complete crap the first half of the season. As good as the second half was, which was kick started by the Olympics, the first half was exactly, and I mean exactly what we are seeing here. I watched every one of those games and recall too easily his poor choices with the puck, his lack of speed into the neutral zone, his shaky hands on the point, his invisible presence in front of his own net... all of it. That's him then and now. And maybe if he was mid to late 20ish you wait a few seasons for him to unf*** his game, but he's 34. That time is gone. He's not a true top pairing guy. No doubt he suffers as a result of the poor roster depth on the blueline, but that only explains some of his horrible year. Most of that is on him... and Garth for not adding enough depth at defense to help make up for it.
I dont know, this is probably only me, but he's got exactly this problem in the national team as well sometimes.
bear in mind that he's THE swiss all-star, he's the first and till now only swiss field-player that made an actual impact in the nhl (not counting the goalies as we have quite a few good ones). so there's lots of pressure on him, and sometimes he kinda struggles with handling that. he just wants to do too much then.
maybe his long (and also first) injury plus the captaincy has the same effect. he probably wants to prove himself and bc its not working out (yet) he tries too much.
10 Obvious Reasons Why Mark Streit Needs to Go (Add what I've missed)
1. He's slow -- amazingly, the guy has zero speed. Recipe for disaster for a guy like Streit.
2. He's not a leader -- strapping a C on another Kenny Jonsson "softee". Way to go Isles brass. Of all years to name a captain...
3. He can't hit the net
4. He's not aggressive -- totally passive. Doesn't know when to jump into the play and pinch or hang back. Way too indecisive.
5. He's a disgrace in the corners -- dump the puck in on Streit... that'd be the gameplan for any opposing coach
6. He doesn't make other players better -- a defensive anchor needs to do this. He doesn't even come close.
7. That commercial -- if I have to see that piece of crap commercial one more time where Streit tries to talk tough ... "40 years of Islanders hockey... 30 years of crap"
8. He'd be the first Islander that I mug if I saw them on the street -- what a wimp
9. He's a defensive liability -- a guaranteed minus each night
And yet another craptastic game from our little suisse disaster.
Now granted, our blueline sucks so much he is in the top four here, but that only serves to underscore just how bad the defense is.
Anyone still wondering why so many of us want to trade for someone good back there?
The guy is the newest scapegoat and no matter what he does, he'll get crapped on. Every mistake is magnified and every good play is swept under the rug.
He seriously looks like a shell of his former self, if his number wasn't the same I would think I was watching a whole different player out there.
He gets a pass from me on this season coming back from that injury...we have ALL seen what Mark Streit is capable of. That said, his age is not on his side, so we'll see what next year brings.
The guy is the newest scapegoat and no matter what he does, he'll get crapped on. Every mistake is magnified and every good play is swept under the rug.
And the reason is the Isles expected him to return to form 100% after missing an entire season with an injury. That's absurd. Did NYI shield him by upgrading the remainder of the D to take the pressure off allow him to break back in?
Nope, cheapo Wang annointed him the Captain. Brillance!
