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09-23-2004, 11:58 PM
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A darkhorse from the Pens could be Ben Eaves. If he adjusts physically to the AHL, he'll have a decent season. But IMO the top three choices are MAF, Vanek, and Parise. But I have a feeling somebody will come out of nowhere and take it.

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09-24-2004, 01:27 AM
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It's usually not who you expect. It's gonna be some 25 year old just out of Div 1.

Regardless, some 'rookies' to keep an eye on would be Vanek, Parise, Ballard and Whitney.

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09-24-2004, 01:32 AM
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Anyone think Parise's NCAA team mate Brandon Bochenski has a shot at winning it?

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Anyone think Parise's NCAA team mate Brandon Bochenski has a shot at winning it?
Probably not, but if he gets power play minutes with the likes of Spezza, Vermette, Volchenkov and Pothier, who knows.

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09-24-2004, 02:34 AM
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My Homer Pick:

Curtis Glencross

He was the best player in the Pacific Division Rookie Tournament.

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09-24-2004, 11:25 AM
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Few players on the pens that have a good chance. Fleury(best chance since he should be playing behind a more seasoned team and another year into Edzo's system), Whitney(slight chance due to his offensive upside, will have trouble though because Jackman and Tarnstrom will man the top PP), Malkin(if the 05' season is scrapped, Malkin looks to be one of the top guys for 06', he'll have some strong competition but will put the points up).

Other guys for 05'(if there is a season), Ovechkin, Praise, and Vanek all seem pretty good bets if they stay the whole year in the NHL.

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09-24-2004, 12:14 PM
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Few players on the pens that have a good chance. Fleury(best chance since he should be playing behind a more seasoned team and another year into Edzo's system), Whitney(slight chance due to his offensive upside, will have trouble though because Jackman and Tarnstrom will man the top PP), Malkin(if the 05' season is scrapped, Malkin looks to be one of the top guys for 06', he'll have some strong competition but will put the points up).

Other guys for 05'(if there is a season), Ovechkin, Praise, and Vanek all seem pretty good bets if they stay the whole year in the NHL.
You know that we are talking about candidates for the AHL rookie of the year, right?

I agree with whoever said that it will probably not be who you'd expect to win, just
take a look at the past ten winners:

2004: Wade Dubielewicz
2003: Darren Haydar
2002: Tyler Arnason
2001: Ryan Kraft
2000: Mika Noronen
1999: Shane Willis
1998: Daniel Briere
1997: Jaroslav Svejkovsky
1996: Darcy Tucker
1995: Jim Carey

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09-24-2004, 01:05 PM
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Isn't Zakarhov with the team too? I like both of them, but Shkotov tends to get himself in trouble with his mouth. I look forward to seeing both of them though. This should be a great year for the AHL.
Yep... Zakharov is on the team also. It sucks that AHL games aren't televised because I'd really like to see those two in action this year.

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09-24-2004, 04:52 PM
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Yep... Zakharov is on the team also. It sucks that AHL games aren't televised because I'd really like to see those two in action this year.
QFA. Would be good to get some decent hockey on the TV.

Oh well.

My pick from the Blues Org would be Zakharov. Shkotov is far for gifted O wise, but isn't the complete player that Zak is.

Not sure who else will be good from other teams as I don't follow their prospects.

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How about Mikko Koivu? Is he playing in the AHL next year? If so, he's my pick. Mature physically & mentally, and really did well in the Finnish league last year. He's a little older than most of these guys, so he's got that going for him.
Yes, Mikkos playing in the AHL this season, It will be intresting to see what kind of ice time he gets with Bouchard and Wallin also being centers for the Aeros. If he gets good ice time and plays with like Bouchard or something he could be in the running for the trophy.

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09-24-2004, 04:59 PM
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Since none of the good players will get called up on the major league teams, I think well see one of the big names get it.


Kostitsyn, Vanek, Parise, MA Fleury, Malkin(is he signed?), Suter, Phaneuf(will he be in the AHL?) are all good candidates to win it.

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09-24-2004, 05:01 PM
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Since none of the good players will get called up on the major league teams, I think well see one of the big names get it.


Kostitsyn, Vanek, Parise, MA Fleury, Malkin(is he signed?), Suter, Phaneuf(will he be in the AHL?) are all good candidates to win it.


If Shane Joseph is considerd a rookie

He has to be one of the favorites

He is a bit older then all the guys coming from the 03' class and he absolutly lit it up in Cleveland last year (only a few games but still)

He has looked impressive in both mini camp and the prospect tournament

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09-25-2004, 09:24 AM
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2002-2003: Parise scores 1 less point in 6 fewer games than Vanek.
2003-2004: Parise scores 5 more points in 1 fewer game than Vanek
Parise was surrounded by a lot more talent at North Dakota than Vanek was at Minnesota from an offensive POV.

But, the show will be on the other foot this season. Vanek will have more skilled teammates and linemates in all probability. So that may change who's more productive this season.

And we all know how ROTY voters love offensive stats.

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09-25-2004, 12:29 PM
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You know that we are talking about candidates for the AHL rookie of the year, right?

I agree with whoever said that it will probably not be who you'd expect to win, just
take a look at the past ten winners:

2004: Wade Dubielewicz
2003: Darren Haydar
2002: Tyler Arnason
2001: Ryan Kraft
2000: Mika Noronen
1999: Shane Willis
1998: Daniel Briere
1997: Jaroslav Svejkovsky
1996: Darcy Tucker
1995: Jim Carey
I agree 100%. Yes, there are alot of talented players coming to the AHL this year, but most often it is someone no one expected. Guys that fly under the radar. It's hard to argue against the likes of Parise, Vanek, etc., but it's also hard not to look at recent history and look to an unknown winning.

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09-25-2004, 12:32 PM
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I agree 100%. Yes, there are alot of talented players coming to the AHL this year, but most often it is someone no one expected. Guys that fly under the radar. It's hard to argue against the likes of Parise, Vanek, etc., but it's also hard not to look at recent history and look to an unknown winning.
A good part of that is because guys like Parise and Vanek typically would get called up if they are having rookie of the year-type seasons.

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09-25-2004, 12:45 PM
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Exactly. If the season doesn't start, this will be a much different year in the AHL.

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09-25-2004, 01:32 PM
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Habsaku, Malkin hasn't been signed by the Penguins yet, and is currently playing for Magnitogorsk Metallurg in the RSL (on the first line, I believe). Other than that, I like your candidates, although the winner usually seems to come from out of nowhere.

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Vanek well have it tough vs players actually as strong as him....He'll get a lot of retalitory penatly's at first but I think it's him or Parise.

I get a few AHL games on T.V. every year, there the Chicago Wolves feeds if anyone needs a game taped I can see if that team is playing them.

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09-25-2004, 02:49 PM
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Homer pick... Tim Smith. Led the ECHL in scoring last year. Will get chance on top line.

...on second thought, is he even eligible for ROTY???

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Vanek well have it tough vs players actually as strong as him....He'll get a lot of retalitory penatly's at first but I think it's him or Parise.

I get a few AHL games on T.V. every year, there the Chicago Wolves feeds if anyone needs a game taped I can see if that team is playing them.
Seemes to do perfectly fine playing for Austria. Outscored Briere.

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09-30-2004, 08:58 PM
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If Alexander Semin would come over from Russia like the Capitals want him to do, he could take a serious run at Rookie of the Year

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Mikko Koivu.... he is awesome.....

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Mikko Koivu.... he is awesome.....
According to the eligibility guidelines, a player who has played more than 100 games in a European elite league (the SM-Liiga should qualify as such) isn't considered a rookie in the AHL. Judging by those standards it would seem that Koivu doesn't qualify.

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Dan Blackburn if he comes back healthy. Did you see the AHL MVP last year? Labarbera? He numbers were amazing and hes not even that good. The teams great coaching on defense does it all. And with an even better defense this season those numbers should be matched.

I'd say Pock but since the Wolfpack arent 'great' upfront he wont be able to rack up that many points.
With Blackburn out until at least after Christmas, I'm not sure he'll be able to play into game shape and form in time.

Unfortunately, I don't think this new delay in Blackbrun's return is a good sign at all for his future.

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