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10-06-2004, 08:47 AM
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Silly question, it will be Rich Peverley.

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10-07-2004, 09:18 AM
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If stajan is considered a rookie i'd say he'd take it.

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10-07-2004, 10:16 AM
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Are Fleury and Parise both 20.. if they aren't, would they still be eligible to play in the AHL? Fleury only played down there on a conditioning stint if I remember correctly last season.
The CHL/NHL agreement was in place last season. That's no longer the case. At any rate, however, only a few 19-year-old guys still eligible for returning to Juniors (Bergeron, Horton, Burns) have been given the go-ahead to play in the AHL this season because they played the entirety of last season in the NHL.

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10-07-2004, 11:02 AM
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I'd have to say it will come down to Whitney, Suter and Vanek. Vanek will have a ton of talent on the top line with him, and Whitney and Suter are on very deep and talented clubs which will help out tremendously.

Albany isn't exactly the most talented of teams and I think that will hurt Parise's numbers a tad bit.

In the end, I say Vanek.

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10-07-2004, 11:14 AM
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Silly question, it will be Rich Peverley.
Who is he signed with?

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10-07-2004, 11:19 AM
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I'd have to say it will come down to Whitney, Suter and Vanek. Vanek will have a ton of talent on the top line with him, and Whitney and Suter are on very deep and talented clubs which will help out tremendously.

Albany isn't exactly the most talented of teams and I think that will hurt Parise's numbers a tad bit.

In the end, I say Vanek.
Most years I would agree with you on Albany, but this year Albany has a wealth of talent. Parise is playing with Suglobov and Pihlman, NJ's other two best prospects, and with the addition of McAmmond the Rats suddenly become a viable team.

Pihlman - Parise - Suglobov
Khomutov - Foster - Voros
McAmmond - Rheaume - Pikkarainen
Murphy - Janssen

Hale - Allen
Schultz - Redhlis
DeMarchi - Kesa

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10-07-2004, 11:24 AM
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Bochenski

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Anyone think Parise's NCAA team mate Brandon Bochenski has a shot at winning it?
Like him a lot and if he plays with either Spezza or Vermette he'll be among the finalists for sure

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10-09-2004, 08:59 AM
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So far this preseason:

Parise: 4gp 2g 0a 2 pts -2 0 PIM 1 PPG 1 GWG
Vanek: 3gp 1g 2a 3 pts +4 4 PIM
Whitney: 2 gp 0g 2a +2 0 PIM
Kostitsyn: 4gp 1g 1a 2 pts +1 4 PIM 1 GWG
Bochenski: 4gp 4g 1a 5 pts -1 4 PIM 3 PPG

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10-09-2004, 10:20 AM
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I think Bochenski is in the most ideal position out of any of those listed above. He is the only top 6 forward on his team that hasnt played in the NHL, meaning he is the only that is really out there to prove anything, the other guys are already established, and arent judged on potential alone. Its awesome for him because hes basically playing the same role as he did in college, with better linemates. Parise is great, but hes got spezza now, and i even think Vermette is further along. Bochenski just has to be the man in the slot on the powerplay, and he is going to money all year.

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10-09-2004, 11:53 AM
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Would Patrice Bergeron be eligible for the AHL rookie? It technically his first AHL season

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So far this preseason:

Parise: 4gp 2g 0a 2 pts -2 0 PIM 1 PPG 1 GWG
Vanek: 3gp 1g 2a 3 pts +4 4 PIM
Whitney: 2 gp 0g 2a +2 0 PIM
Kostitsyn: 4gp 1g 1a 2 pts +1 4 PIM 1 GWG
Bochenski: 4gp 4g 1a 5 pts -1 4 PIM 3 PPG
The big difference between Kostitsyn and the others names from that list is that Kostitsyn is in his first year in North America. He's not adapted to that style of play. In the long run, he will outscore everyone, included Vanek, which I am really high on. As the scouts said, Kostitsyn is the 2nd best offensive player from the 2003 draft after only Zherdev.

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10-09-2004, 09:34 PM
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As the scouts said, Kostitsyn is the 2nd best offensive player from the 2003 draft after only Zherdev.
Scouts? Try Woodlief. That's it.

I wouldn't be so high on him just yet, even if he does well in the AHL. Kostitsyn is the same type of player Afinogenov, Saprykin and Petrov are. He may not have the scoring to fulfill your expectations.

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10-09-2004, 10:11 PM
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Would Patrice Bergeron be eligible for the AHL rookie? It technically his first AHL season
Not according to those rules ratsgirl provided from the AHL. 25 games in the NHL or AHL or 100 games overseas.

Which means Fleury is ineligible. I don't know if he'd win it anyways, because Chiodo is just too good. I'm almost sure that Therrien will platoon Chiodo and Fleury.

It's too hard to say how incoming players will fare in the AHL. It's a different type of game from Juniors and college but it's also different from the NHL.

So far Bochenski seems to be putting up impressive stats, but it's pretty tough to have an impression of how any of the rookies will do going on just preseason stats.

In keeping with the theme of mentioning players from personal bias as "options", Whitney has a leg up on some of the others because he's already got his feet wet with experience, and experience with the pressure on to boot. And after watching it last year, I can say with confidence that he quickly excelled and I hope the play continues regardless of how other players vying for the rookie of the year award do.

It's definitely an interesting side-story to an already very interesting AHL season this is shaping up to be.

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10-09-2004, 11:00 PM
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since this is now who from your team might win the ROYT in the AHL im gonna have to say look out for Tomas Fleischmann..he's tearing it up and Portland's pretty skilled this year.

Aulin, Fleischmann, Klepis, Johansson, Gordon, Laich, Sutherby and guys like Eminger and Morrisonn on the blue line.

He had 2 goals and 3 assist in 4 games and has played incredibly accord to reports(I havn't seen him first hand). Portland went 4-0 without a few important players in the lineup on various nights(Sutherby the entire pre-season).

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If the lockout lasts all year, I'm pretty sure Bochenski is going to take it with Spezza being his center, and Vermette on the left wing. If it doesn't, then I'd probably say Parise.

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DING!
I have to agree. He is going to dazzle everyone, like always.

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I think *insert your exciting prospect here* from *insert your team here* is going to win. No question.

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I think *insert your exciting prospect here* from *insert your team here* is going to win. No question.
Agreed, but you can say why that will happen.

I think Kostytsin has a good chance at it simply because he plays on a team with very good offensive guys.. Higgins, Plekanek, Locke, Milroy... He could play on any of the 3 first lines (he'll play #2 at first then be promoted to #1, just watch) and have at least one very good guy to feed him with incredible passes, and able to score when Kost gives him the puck...

Obviously he could need time to adapt, but I expect a similar season for him as Perezhogin had last year, maybe even better since he's bigger

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Agreed, but you can say why that will happen.

I think Kostytsin has a good chance at it simply because he plays on a team with very good offensive guys.. Higgins, Plekanek, Locke, Milroy... He could play on any of the 3 first lines (he'll play #2 at first then be promoted to #1, just watch) and have at least one very good guy to feed him with incredible passes, and able to score when Kost gives him the puck...

Obviously he could need time to adapt, but I expect a similar season for him as Perezhogin had last year, maybe even better since he's bigger

And I think Suter will win because the AHL's best team from last year got better, and he'll be paired with just-named-alternate-captain Dan Hamhuis

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I hate the wings with a passion... But they've got a great prospect in Fleischmann who is my bet for the ROY.

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I hate the wings with a passion... But they've got a great prospect in Fleischmann who is my bet for the ROY.

he's a caps prospect now, and is doing well for the portland pirates.

he was traded from detroit in the robert lang deal

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he's a caps prospect now, and is doing well for the portland pirates.

he was traded from detroit in the robert lang deal
what a relief no need to feel shame for liking him

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Agreed, but you can say why that will happen.

I think Kostytsin has a good chance at it simply because he plays on a team with very good offensive guys.. Higgins, Plekanek, Locke, Milroy... He could play on any of the 3 first lines (he'll play #2 at first then be promoted to #1, just watch) and have at least one very good guy to feed him with incredible passes, and able to score when Kost gives him the puck...

Obviously he could need time to adapt, but I expect a similar season for him as Perezhogin had last year, maybe even better since he's bigger
Under this logic, Vanek has just as good, if not better, chance at winning it. Seeing as he'll play with Pominville and Roy, he has even better offensive weapons on his line.

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