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05-06-2012, 10:40 PM
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He's good with juniors but his coaching style(obviously) doesn't translate well to the NHL. Not a big deal, it happens. Just replace him.
That, or find kids that fit the mold of what hes doing. Desjardins seemed to have some success with him, great on the ground, super athletic... makes me wonder if Janus can iron out the mental side of the game and potentially overtake Tokarski.

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That, or find kids that fit the mold of what hes doing. Desjardins seemed to have some success with him, great on the ground, super athletic... makes me wonder if Janus can iron out the mental side of the game and potentially overtake Tokarski.
So that would mean we're going with who in net next season?

How much respect does Frantz Jean have around the room at this point? I know he works with the goalies, but whoever the starter is next season, is going to be told by the guys that he seems to produce **** results.

I can say that with some confidence if Roli went off program to regain form.

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So that would mean we're going with who in net next season?

How much respect does Frantz Jean have around the room at this point? I know he works with the goalies, but whoever the starter is next season, is going to be told by the guys that he seems to produce **** results.

I can say that with some confidence if Roli went off program to regain form.
I honestly wouldn't mind if Roli replaced Jean as our goalie coach. Then add in another coach to take Wayne's spot.

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I honestly wouldn't mind if Roli replaced Jean as our goalie coach. Then add in another coach to take Wayne's spot.
Agreed. I'm sure if we offered Roli the job he'd take it, assuming he doesn't get any offers to play in the offseason.

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I honestly wouldn't mind if Roli replaced Jean as our goalie coach. Then add in another coach to take Wayne's spot.
Other than having a great career in the NHL, having the respect of this team, our coaches, and being picked by Yzerman twice (for Canada in the WC and in a trade to Tampa) in the past, an supposedly a good mentor when Tokarski was up here, how do we know he'll be better than Frantz. What qualifies him to be a good goalie coach, or did I answer my own question?

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Other than having a great career in the NHL, having the respect of this team, our coaches, and being picked by Yzerman twice (for Canada in the WC and in a trade to Tampa) in the past, an supposedly a good mentor when Tokarski was up here, how do we know he'll be better than Frantz. What qualifies him to be a good goalie coach, or did I answer my own question?
IIRC, Roli has experience coaching. Doesn't he run like a summer camp with Roland Melanson?

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The Tampa Bay Lightning might hire a coaching consultant to take some of the work load off coach Guy Boucher and assistants Dan Lacroix and Marty Raymond. The move, only a consideration at this point, is taking shape because it is clear assistant Wayne Fleming, in the 13th month of his fight with brain cancer, is not returning to the team. His absence last season created added responsibilities for the remaining staff.
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General manager Steve Yzerman said he has no plans at this time to hire another full-time assistant. A decision on whether to hire a consultant will be made when Yzerman and Boucher talk after the world championship, which ends May 20 in Helsinki, Finland, where Boucher is an assistant with Team Canada.

As for Fleming, 61, Yzerman said, he "is not seeing a lot of improvement right now."

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An interesting tidbit is that Frantz Jean owns ProTek goaltending, which runs goalie camps during the summer in PQ.

One of the guys he's got assisting him is Shawinigan's Gilles Lefebvre, who I think we'd come around to considering as Jean's replacement in Tampa, given that a QMJHL team made it to the Memorial Cup Final, and being French seems to be 90% of the necessary qualifications.

Lefebvre was the former goalie coach for the Thrashers, Pens, and Isles.

http://www.gilleslefebvre.com/

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I don't think Frantz is going to go anywhere for at least another year. Hes been given a few different types of goaltender and the only one that he has really shown decent work with would be Cedrick, so I think they may give him a little more time to work with someone like Janus who is very similar in style and see how that goes.

Its scary though, I don't know how he can work so... differently with someone like Tokarski, Roloson.

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I don't think Frantz is going to go anywhere for at least another year. Hes been given a few different types of goaltender and the only one that he has really shown decent work with would be Cedrick, so I think they may give him a little more time to work with someone like Janus who is very similar in style and see how that goes.

Its scary though, I don't know how he can work so... differently with someone like Tokarski, Roloson.
I honestly think Roloson would be a great teacher for Tokarski.

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05-31-2012, 07:16 AM
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Isn't Frantz the NHL goalie coach only? I'm not sure if he runs the Ads but whoever is their doing s hell of a job.

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I have nothing but respect for Flemming and wish him a speedy recovery, but in the meantime we need another coach to fill his spot.
Lidstrom?

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Lidstrom?
While that would be awesome I doubt it happens.

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Isn't Frantz the NHL goalie coach only? I'm not sure if he runs the Ads but whoever is their doing s hell of a job.
No he works with all the Lightning goaltenders

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Tokarski works on a weekly basis with Tampa Bay Lightning Goaltending Coach and Pro Tek Goaltending Owner and Head instructor, Frantz Jean.
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Pat works weekly with Lightning Goaltending Coach and Pro Tek Goaltending Owner and Head Instructor, Frantz Jean.
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Tokarski is the first goalie off the ice during morning skate. Janus is getting extra work with Lightning goalie coach Frantz Jean.
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The 39-year-old native of Mont-Royan, Quebec, will be responsible for working with all goaltenders in the Lightning's organzation. While he will work closely with Mike Smith and Dan Ellis in Tampa, Jean is expected to split his time between Tampa and Norfolk while also working with the Lightning's prospects in junior hockey.


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Frantz works with all goalies, yeah. Just like the rest of us, perhaps he just has some learning to do. Maybe.

I worry about bringing in another stopgap until Bernier becomes available because of his coaching.

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Any coaching changes in the offseason?

We all know that Roli and Smitty aren't the biggest fans of Frantz Jean. Were bringing in a maturing goalie. Do you think we'll replace him with someone a bit more proven to ensure Lindback rises to his full potential?

Anyone else in the coaching staff for that matter?

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We all know that Roli and Smitty aren't the biggest fans of Frantz Jean. Were bringing in a maturing goalie. Do you think we'll replace him with someone a bit more proven to ensure Lindback rises to his full potential?

Anyone else in the coaching staff for that matter?
SY has said that there would be no coaching changes.

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SY has said that there would be no coaching changes.
Does anyone know if Lindback and Jean have similar styles?

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I don't know how some red flags haven't gone up about our goalie coach. Smitty leaves and has an MVP season. Roloson starts playing well when he went back to doing his thing. Are we not allowed to have a better goalie coach because the NHL knows that when we have decent goaltending we are tough to beat??

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Does anyone know if Lindback and Jean have similar styles?
I know nothing about Lindback's preferences. This is what we know about Jean's:

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Lightning goaltenders coach Frantz Jean likes to work with what he calls "static" drills in which a goalie "works on the mechanics of the movement."
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/hocke...-surge/1222241

Jean may do fine with younger goalies seeing as that is where the bulk of his experience has been.

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06-26-2012, 09:41 AM
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I don't know how some red flags haven't gone up about our goalie coach. Smitty leaves and has an MVP season. Roloson starts playing well when he went back to doing his thing. Are we not allowed to have a better goalie coach because the NHL knows that when we have decent goaltending we are tough to beat??
Smitty needed to grow up mentally and he wasn't going to do that here. Slightly different situation here.

As for the rest... yeah.

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Smitty needed to grow up mentally and he wasn't going to do that here. Slightly different situation here.

As for the rest... yeah.
No way. You don't mentally grow up in the offseason. He averaged a 2.7 in tampa and gets a 2.21 in Phoenix. He carried the team that is no better than Tampa the entire season. Im sorry but that has nothing to do with growing up.

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No way. You don't mentally grow up in the offseason. He averaged a 2.7 in tampa and gets a 2.21 in Phoenix. He carried the team that is no better than Tampa the entire season. Im sorry but that has nothing to do with growing up.
Well, yea, did you see the WCF games against the Kings? He still has more growing up to do, obviously.

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