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View Poll Results: Where will we pick for the 2012 NHL Entry Draft?
1st-5th 1 1.96%
6th-10th 4 7.84%
11th-15th 23 45.10%
16th-20th 22 43.14%
21st-25th 1 1.96%
26th-30th 0 0%
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04-06-2012, 04:09 PM
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Yeah you weren't the poster I was talking about, but the lack of patience in Larsen and Vincour is similar IMO.
I mean, I've seen the tools each of these guys have. Larsen might be the guy who compliments a big mobile defensive commander on the blueline who might not have the best puck skills. He's mobile, doesn't shy away from fighting in the corners, and has pretty damn good puck skills. He could be the dominant guy on the 2nd pair here in Dallas, but our D corps suck.

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I won't argue that the corp is not up to snuff.

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Best we can get is 12th, now.

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04-07-2012, 08:51 PM
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Colorado down 3-1 after 1.

Looks like Dallas is probably picking 13 or 14.

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Going to be 13th unless Colorado turns it around.

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The Grossmann trade 2nd round pick will be 47th or 48th depending on the outcome of tonight's LA/SJ game and assuming the Kings get bounced in the 1st or 2nd round.

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Assuming we keep pick 13 and dont trade (or somehow win the lottery).

Last 10 pick 13's

2011- Sven Baertschi
2010- Brandon Gormley
2009- Zach Kassian
2008- Colton Teubert
2007- Lars Eller
2006- Jiri Tlusty
2005- Marek Zagrapan
2004- Drew Stafford
2003- Dustin Brown
2002- Alex Semin

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Going to be 13th unless Colorado turns it around.
6-1 now. Fuggedaboutit.

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04-07-2012, 10:13 PM
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Got a mock up, if anyone's interested.

We've got 13th. I was really hoping we'd pick ahead of Buffalo and Washington, as they'll both probably take a center, too. At least there are 3 good ones right around there (Faksa, Gaunce, Girgensons).

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Got a mock up, if anyone's interested.

We've got 13th. I was really hoping we'd pick ahead of Buffalo and Washington, as they'll both probably take a center, too. At least there are 3 good ones right around there (Faksa, Gaunce, Girgensons).
Gaunce dropped to 25 in Button's recent-most rankings. Why not consider using that pick in a trade?

Post the mock-up, please.

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04-07-2012, 10:20 PM
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Gaunce dropped to 25 in Button's recent-most rankings. Why not consider using that pick in a trade?

Post the mock-up, please.
It's Button, who cares?

Dear god, Grigs at 7? Murray at 10? What the hell? And who the hell is Lindholm?

If you want: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1157997

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04-07-2012, 10:24 PM
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By buttons list I would take teuvo in the first and maata in the 2nd

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It's Button, who cares?
I don't know if he is significant or not. His rankings are the only recent-most ones available on TSN's Draftcentre.

Addendum: Saw your mock-up. I'd see if it is possible for us to swap spots with Caps. They already have Kuznetsov (C/RW) up and coming. If Faksa is what you describe him to be, then me want.

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04-07-2012, 10:28 PM
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I don't know if he is significant or not. His rankings are the only recent-most ones available on TSN's Draftcentre.

Addendum: Saw your mock-up. I'd see if it is possible for us to swap spots with Caps. They already have Kuznetsov (C/RW) up and coming. If Faksa is what you describe him to be, then me want.
Button is a joke. He's so incredibly biased you can't even laugh at his rankings.

Faksa's the best of the group. Also, I'm assuming Kuznetsov shifts to wing, since it sounds like he might very well do that.

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Pretty accurate mock LT...draft could definitely pan out that way..

Just a random thought..If we traded down 8-10 spots, could that be a big enough drop to get another 1st rounder next season

If say Gaunce or Hertl are available at around 22 or 23, we could swoop on them and look at potentially being in range to target Mckinnon/Jones in 2013..(especially as its no guarantee we wont suck next season)

2 first rounders next season could be a shot for the elite prospect talent we lack..

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By buttons list I would take teuvo in the first and maata in the 2nd
id be in hockey prospect lovers paradise if that happened

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Just a random thought..If we traded down 8-10 spots, could that be a big enough drop to get another 1st rounder next season
I doubt it, especially since next year's draft is considered stronger. Could probably only get another second rounder doing that. Not worth it.

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I doubt it, especially since next year's draft is considered stronger. Could probably only get another second rounder doing that. Not worth it.
Agree. Another 1st next year will simply be too expensive to acquire.

I doubt we'll end up with a lottery pick, but I think next year will be the worst of the 5 so far. I don't have a very good feeling about next year, but Benn, Lehtonen, Eriksson and co. are too good to let us slip that far down.

Thanks, catters, I appreciate it.

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id be in hockey prospect lovers paradise if that happened
I mean.... They are the 2 I want at our spot

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I mean.... They are the 2 I want at our spot
I'd lose it if we get Maatta at 43rd. He's a top 25 pick and would be a Saad-lite choice that low.

But Button has some of the worst draft lists imaginable. His Canadian bias is unreal.

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Talk about a hell of a 3rd line.

Not a big fan of Faksa. I'd prefer Girgensons or Gaunce.
Not sure why you would want Gaunce over Faksa. Faksa is bigger, better defensively, better offensively, and Gaunce only has a small edge physically. Girgensons has more offensive potential but he's a huge risk.

Faksa is our optimal pick but I doubt he reaches us.

I'd like to see us draft Timothy Bozon and Nathan Walker just so we can say we drafted 2 players developed by 2 non-traditional hockey markets (France and Australia)

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To be honest, I haven't seen or heard much about Faksa. I'm sure if I look into him more I'll agree, but for now it's Girgensons for obvious reasons.

Faksa would probably be the best of the 2nd tier centers, though.

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2012 NHL Central Scouting's Final Draft Rankings:

North American Skaters:
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RANK PLAYER TEAM LEAGUE HEIGHT WEIGHT POSITION
1 YAKUPOV, NAIL SARNIA OHL 5' 10.5" 189 RW
2 MURRAY, RYAN EVERETT WHL 6' 0.5" 195 D
3 GRIGORENKO, MIKHAIL QUEBEC QMJHL 6' 3.0" 200 C
4 GALCHENYUK, ALEX SARNIA OHL 6' 0.5" 198 C
5 RIELLY, MORGAN MOOSE JAW WHL 5' 11.5" 190 D
6 CECI, CODY OTTAWA OHL 6' 2.5" 207 D
7 FAKSA, RADEK KITCHENER OHL 6' 2.5" 203 C
8 MAATTA, OLLI LONDON OHL 6' 1.5" 202 D
9 TROUBA, JACOB USA U-18 USHL 6' 2.0" 193 D
10 REINHART, GRIFFIN EDMONTON WHL 6' 3.75" 197 D
11 DUMBA, MATHEW RED DEER WHL 5' 11.75" 173 D
12 POULIOT, DERRICK PORTLAND WHL 5' 11.25" 190 D
13 GAUNCE, BRENDAN BELLEVILLE OHL 6' 2.0" 215 C
14 SISSONS, COLTON KELOWNA WHL 6' 0.5" 187 C
15 WILSON, THOMAS PLYMOUTH OHL 6' 3.5" 203 RW
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RANK PLAYER TEAM LEAGUE HEIGHT WEIGHT POSITION
1 FORSBERG, FILIP LEKSAND SWEDEN-2 6' 2.0" 181 C
2 TERAVAINEN, TEUVO JOKERIT FINLAND 5' 11.0" 165 LW
3 COLLBERG, SEBASTIAN FROLUNDA SWEDEN 5' 11.0" 176 RW
4 LINDHOLM, HAMPUS ROGLE JR. SWE-JR. 6' 2.5" 196 D
5 HERTL, TOMAS SLAVIA CZREP 6' 2.0" 198 C
6 ABERG, PONTUS DJURGARDEN SWEDEN 5' 11.0" 194 LW
7 POKKA, VILLE KARPAT FINLAND 6' 0.0" 196 D
8 BYSTROM, LUDWIG MODO JR. SWE-JR. 6' 0.75" 208 D
9 PROKHORKIN, NIKOLAY CSKA 2 RUSSIA-JR. 6' 2.5" 191 LW
10 SLEPYSHEV, ANTON NOVOKUZNETSK RUSSIA 6' 2.0" 187 LW
11 VAINONEN, MIKKO HIFK JR. FINLAND-JR. 6' 3.0" 205 D
12 LINDELL, ESA JOKERIT JR. FINLAND-JR. 6' 3.0" 194 D
13 OSNOVIN, VYACHESLAV CHELYABINSK 2 RUSSIA-JR. 6' 0.0" 188 C
14 KARLSSON, ERIK FROLUNDA JR. SWE-JR. 5' 11.75" 162 C/LW
15 ANDERSSON, CALLE FARJESTAD JR. SWE-JR. 6' 2.25" 208 D

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The thing I hate about the CS rankings is they don't take into consideration the U-18 going on right now.

If these are accurate, it would seem that Dallas might actually have a shot at Trouba. However, he could have a great U-18 and seal a Top 10 or even Top 5 pick.

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The only Euro skaters that seem like they'd be gone by the time Dallas picks is Forsberg and possibly Teravainen and Collberg.

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