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09-23-2004, 09:37 PM
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Forgotten Legends: moments, players and feats

Some things have never left the spotlight of history, but some have long been lost in the mists of time.

Most know that Glenn Hall had a consecutive games played streak of 502 over 7 years, but few know that George Vezina had a streak of 367 games over 15 years.

This is a thread to post of those worthy of being remembered.

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Newsy Lalonde

was the best player of his generation, but few today know how good he was.

You know Rocket Richard scored 50 goals in 50 games in 1944-45. You probably know Joe Malone scored 44 goals in 20 games in 1917-18, the first year of the NHL. You probably didn't know that Newsy Lalonde scored 38 goals in 11 games in 1909-10. That was the first year of the NHA, which was the league that the original NHL teams came from.

Newsy played 20 years of "Major League" hockey, and scored over a goal a game in 16 of those seasons. He won 6 scoring titles in 5 different leagues. In the NHL's first 4 seasons he finished 4th, 1st, 2nd and 1st in the scoring race.

In 1918-19 he had a season that ranks among the very best of all-time. He was captain and player/coach of the Montreal Canadiens. He became the first player to lead the NHL in goals, 22, assists, 10, and points, 32, in a season. He did this in 17 games of an 18 game schedule. He then capped it off by taking the Canadiens to within 1 win of the Stanley Cup, before the series was canceled on acount of he and several other player being hospitalized due to the Spanish Influenza Pandemic. He set a record for playoff goals with 17 in 10 games, that stood until Reggie Leach scored 19 in 16 games in 1976.

Newsy Lalonde is a name worth remembering.

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Hockeys Forgotten Man

Oh, the irony.

Earl Seibert:

He was a First or Second Team All-Star defenseman for 10 consecutive years.

He was, according to hockey old-timers, the equal of Boston's great star Eddie Shore in almost every way. What set them apart was, perhaps, flair, color, and controversy.

Eddie Shore said he was the only player he'd be afraid to fight.

He became part of the first father and son player combo in the Hall of Fame, when he followed his father, Oliver, into the Hall in 1963.

He help the Black Hawks win the Stanley Cup in 38. He played about 55 minutes a game, and set a record for defensemen by scoring 5 playoff goals.

I mentioned irony?

Brian McFarlane, in his Original Six series, calls him "hockey's forgotten man".

In his book Century of Hockey, he recounts minor trades and contract issues a plenty. Yet fails to mention that Earl was traded from the Rangers to the Black Hawks, after bringing in his father to negotiate his contract, for another future HoFer, Art Coulter.

He doesn't mention his name when talking about the hit that ended Howie Morenz's career. Earl was the player that hit him when his leg shattered.

None the above got Seibert mentioned in the book. The first mention of him is when Bobby Orr breaks his record for playoff goals for defenseman in 1970.

Hockey's forgotten man indeed!

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For a forgotten feat, look no farther than this day 24 years ago, when Peter and Anton Stastny both scored hat tricks for the Nords in a 9-3 rout of Vancouver. Why is this special? Two nights later, in the very next game, the brothers do it again- with Peter recording 4-4-8 and Anton 3-5-8 against Washington in an 11-7 win. Peter and Anton set the NHL record for points in a road game during that contest, a record which still stands today.

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Most points in his first NHL game: Al Hill (Philadelphia vs. St. Louis, 1977) with 5. Interesting feat because you only have one shot at it and it was done by a journeyman player.

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Brian Bouchers 5 consecutive shutout streak (I'm still not sure this actually happened) followed by a 4-17-6 run.

John Druce's 1990 playoffs, 14 goals in 15 games.

Between 1991 and 1994, regular season + playoffs. Cam Neely plays in 80 games and scores 76 goals and 35 assists, playing on one good leg. That's impressive.

the pens and flyers 6 OT game.

Habs 10 consecutive OT wins in 1993, 14 straight since it goes up to 1998 I think

Miracle at Manchester.

Ken Dryden's career 258-57-74 record

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CECIL "BABE" DYE
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Born May 13 1898 -- Hamilton, ONT
Height 5.08 -- Weight 150 -- Shoots R


Goal scoring machine from the 1920s who was knick-named "Babe" because many at the time referred to him as "The Babe Ruth of Hockey"........played most of his career with the Toronto St.Patt's (who later rename their club the Maple Leafs after Conn Smythe took them over)..........Played 11 NHL seasons
from 1919 to 1931............in his first 6-seasons of play he scored 176-goals in 170-games......a pace that wasn't equaled until Wayne Gretzky came along in the 1980s and rewrote the NHL record book.........Lead the League in scoring three times........He was elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1970.........

............also great athlete.....was a halfback for the Toronto Argonauts and such a good baseball player that Connie Mack offered him the extraordinary salary of $25,000 to join his Philadelphia Athletics team in 1921. But Dye limited his baseball to playing outfield with Baltimore, Buffalo and Toronto in the International League. His real career was in professional hockey..........

Stats:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=23813

Biography:

http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/...t=ByName#photo

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Tom Bladon's 8 point night.

Best ever by a defenseman .. and has only been bettered by Darryl Sittler.

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Bill Durnan
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Montreal Canadiens 1943 - 1950

Remarkable goalie who was ambidextrous and had special gloves made that could both catch the puck or handle the stick. He would switch hands depending on which wing the shooter was coming down. Also was the last goalie who was allowed to be the captain of the team.

Played for the Canadiens for 7 seasons. Won the Vezina trophy in 6 of 'em.

383 GP, 208-112-62, GAA 2.36 and 34 shutouts.

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Yvan Cournoyer's five goal night in a 25 goal season (1975) when it first became apparent he had lost a step or three.

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One of my favorites is Mike Bossy scoring 50 or more goals in his first nine seasons, in his tenth and last he had only 38.

Also in a three year playoff run (1980-83) he had 51 goals in just 55 games. Man what a under appreciated hockey player he really was.

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Newsy Lalonde

was the best player of his generation, but few today know how good he was.

You know Rocket Richard scored 50 goals in 50 games in 1944-45. You probably know Joe Malone scored 44 goals in 20 games in 1917-18, the first year of the NHL. You probably didn't know that Newsy Lalonde scored 38 goals in 11 games in 1909-10. That was the first year of the NHA, which was the league that the original NHL teams came from.

Newsy played 20 years of "Major League" hockey, and scored over a goal a game in 16 of those seasons. He won 6 scoring titles in 5 different leagues. In the NHL's first 4 seasons he finished 4th, 1st, 2nd and 1st in the scoring race.

In 1918-19 he had a season that ranks among the very best of all-time. He was captain and player/coach of the Montreal Canadiens. He became the first player to lead the NHL in goals, 22, assists, 10, and points, 32, in a season. He did this in 17 games of an 18 game schedule. He then capped it off by taking the Canadiens to within 1 win of the Stanley Cup, before the series was canceled on acount of he and several other player being hospitalized due to the Spanish Influenza Pandemic. He set a record for playoff goals with 17 in 10 games, that stood until Reggie Leach scored 19 in 16 games in 1976.

Newsy Lalonde is a name worth remembering.
Seibert's a great one.Also add Bill Gadsby,Bill Durnan.

Here's another one that might sound as a strange choice at first but I think
his accomplishments as a player are somewhat overlooked because he became
high profile in other areas:I'm referring to Ken Dryden.

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No particular moment, but.......

Marcel Dionne

Fourth overall in goals

Fifth overall in points

Ninth overall in assists

And he never seems to get the credit that he deserves for those extraordinary numbers

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The French Connection line. Often forgotten about. I think the NHL could use the likes of Perreault, Martin and Robert on one line again. Exciting Hockey. They are often overlooked in the era of the Broad Street Bullies and Canadiens dynasty. But they played a very much similar style to the Soviets. Still to me the Sabres of that era are the best TEAM to never win a Cup, ever! Don't confuse that with the '86 Oilers or '93 Pens. Those teams before won Cups.

Also the Triple Crown line is often overlooked. In '80-81 they became the first line ever to have three 100 point scorers. Dionne, Simmer and Taylor were all great. To bad they never got the exposure in LA.

And the Soviets of the 80s. Krutov, Larionov, Makarov, Fetisov, and Kasatonov all would have been great players in the NHL had they been allowed to play. Another thing the NHL could use is a great Can/Rus rivlary again.

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