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12-14-2011, 11:25 AM
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I don't see a concussion in that collision, I really don't; but that could just be wishful thinking.

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This is really starting to show you that before the past couple years....every team had players playing through concussion symptoms every game.

Fix the ****ing helmets. They couldn't protect the head in a bike accident.
You are absolutely right on all counts.

Not sure why it is taking the NHL so long to realize the helmets are inferior and the other equipment deadly.

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I don't think it has anything to do with the helmet, at least in this case, more so the very sudden change of direction/momentum his head went through.

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Huh?? He got concussed? What the heck?

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I don't see a concussion in that collision, I really don't; but that could just be wishful thinking.
My first reaction and post in the GDT was that it was a concussion, his head hit a little awkwardly on the ice. Also, the fact that he continued to play, then perhaps realized he may have a concussion and was taken off the ice made my suspicion even greater.

Damn this sucks.

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My first reaction and post in the GDT was that it was a concussion, his head hit a little awkwardly on the ice. Also, the fact that he continued to play, then perhaps realized he may have a concussion and was taken off the ice made my suspicion even greater.

Damn this sucks.
Hmm, well I didn't see it live so I'll take your word for it.... unfortunately.

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that's not good, especially the way it happened. karlsson can't feel very good about it.

i thought it looked like karlsson might have been concussed, was watching him closely and thought the rest of the shift he looked a little off.

hopefully karlsson had a couple tests too.

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Clearly a head shot...Suspend Karlsson

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This is really starting to show you that before the past couple years....every team had players playing through concussion symptoms every game.

Fix the ****ing helmets. They couldn't protect the head in a bike accident.
Helmets have nothing to do with it, unless he were to hit his head on the ice or something like that. A shot to the head or body that results in the brain rattling inside the skull is what results in a concussions. Helmets help prevent visible injuries to the head moreso than concussions. I guess they could also help in the severity of a concussion too.

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Anyone have a clip of the hit? Only saw it once or twice on tv and I don't remember seeing his head hit the ice. Could it have been more of a whiplash effect causing the concussion rather than hitting the ice?

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12-14-2011, 11:33 AM
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Helmets have nothing to do with it, unless he were to hit his head on the ice or something like that. A shot to the head or body that results in the brain rattling inside the skull is what results in a concussions. Helmets help prevent visible injuries to the head moreso than concussions. I guess they could also help in the severity of a concussion too.
wouldn't more cushion, more air (pockets?) between the outer shell and head lessen the impact and severity of the concussion?
epp foam doesn't do much as far as i know.

just yesterday, before the game i was looking at messier's helmets, looking for a better solution to this. otherwise the game is too dangerous to play as is imo.

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Helmets have nothing to do with it, unless he were to hit his head on the ice or something like that. A shot to the head or body that results in the brain rattling inside the skull is what results in a concussions. Helmets help prevent visible injuries to the head moreso than concussions. I guess they could also help in the severity of a concussion too.
Helmets most definitely have the potential to protect against concussions by absorbing the forces associated with impact to reduce the forces acting on the brain (thus the severity and/or likelihood of being concussed). The problem is that kind of helmet technology is still in its infancy.

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The nice thing about Sens confirming that Michalek has a concussion: We don't have to phone his mom to confirm.

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Helmets have nothing to do with it, unless he were to hit his head on the ice or something like that. A shot to the head or body that results in the brain rattling inside the skull is what results in a concussions. Helmets help prevent visible injuries to the head moreso than concussions. I guess they could also help in the severity of a concussion too.
They play a role.

Other than that your best option is to take hitting out of the game, tell players they can only skate a certain speed, or turn the NHL into sledge hockey.

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I don't see a concussion in that collision, I really don't; but that could just be wishful thinking.
Concussions do not require a direct blow to the head, they can be caused by the sudden movement of the head as a result of a check.

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Anyone have a clip of the hit? Only saw it once or twice on tv and I don't remember seeing his head hit the ice. Could it have been more of a whiplash effect causing the concussion rather than hitting the ice?
Probably what did cause it, direct blows are not required.

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Alfie came back pretty fast from his, can only hope the same from Michalek.

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Really sucks.

Say hello to the basement.

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How many concussions are there in the SEL in comparison?
anyone?
just wondering.

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I don't think it has anything to do with the helmet, at least in this case, more so the very sudden change of direction/momentum his head went through.
Hockey helmets are pieces of ****.

Take a hammer to a hockey helmet, take a hammer to a football helmet. They can't go to football helmets..but man they gotta do better than they are.

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Alfie came back pretty fast from his, can only hope the same from Michalek.
Yes he did and IMO he came back too soon. Didn't look awfully good when he first came back and is just getting back to playing well in the past week or so.

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How many concussions are there in the SEL in comparison?
anyone?
just wondering.

They're playing with the same helmets as here... dont know what could be the difference except maybe the bigger ice

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They play a role.

Other than that your best option is to take hitting out of the game, tell players they can only skate a certain speed, or turn the NHL into sledge hockey.
I do believe the NHL needs to move at a faster pace to remove the heavy protection equipment players are wearing, specifically elbow and shoulder pads. Players wouldn't be quite so anxious to deliver the huge hits if they felt the impact, in other words it stung.

Even football has rules about hitting high and low, and football isn't played at the speed of hockey inside an area surrounded by boards and glass.

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