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12-08-2011, 10:57 AM
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YOU are the GM: You get THREE trades to WIN the Cup

Title says it:

You are the Sabre's GM (and have plenty of autonomy from the owner). You have THREE trades of ANY player at ANY position, irrespective to salary. Some believe that when healthy, this team is a contender, so a few mega-trades should put them over the top.

You get THREE trades to win the Cup.

Who for who? Show your lines.

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I hear the distinct sound of cans of worms being opened...

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12-08-2011, 11:07 AM
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This ought to be a flame fest.
But, I'll give it a go.

To Buf
Eric Staal

To Car
Drew Stafford
Tyler Ennis
Andrej Sekera
2012 1st rd pick
2012 2nd rd pick (Buffalo's)

lines:

Vanek/Staal/Pominville
Leino/Adam/Kassian
Hecht/Roy/Boyes
McCormick/Gaustad/Kaleta
Gerbe

Myers/Regher
Ehrhoff/McNabb
Leopold/Weber
Grags/Finley/Brennan/Scheistel/Crawford in no particular order

Miller/Enroth


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12-08-2011, 11:09 AM
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If we're going to have two trade threads, let's at least keep them differentiated.

Name your three trades and post your lines, please.

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Drew Stafford (4.0), Tyler Ennis(.875), Gragnani(.550), Weber(.950), 2nd rounder = 6.375
for
Bobby Ryan(5.1) and Parros (.875)= 5.975

Derek Roy(4.0), Brad Boyes(4.0), Mark Pysyk, Joel Armia, 1st = 8.0
for
Eric Staal = 8.25

Leopold(3.0)
for
Tallinder(3.375)

Vanek-Adam-Pominville
Ryan-Staal-Kassian
Leino-Hecht-Gerbe
Kaleta-Goose-Parros
x McCormick

Tallinder-Myers
Regehr-Ehrhoff
McNabb-Sekera
x Finley

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12-08-2011, 11:35 AM
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1. Get rid of Ken Sawyer, his advice is counter productive towards winning a Cup. His dumb contract advice is screwing up the Sabres just like he screwed up the Penguins coming out of bankruptcy. Adding Leino to a Charmin soft core? Insanity. Are they trying to NOT win the Cup? Are they just looking at stats? Sawyer sucks at advice.

2. Trade Leino and Boyes for Malone and a 2nd rounder.

3. Trade Armia, Ennis, Gragnani, and Pomminville for Eric Staal and Bryan Allen.


Vanek-Staal-Kassian
Malone-Roy-Stafford
Hecht-Adam-Tropp
Gerbe-Gausted-Kaleta

Regehr-Myers
Leopold-Ehrhoff
Sekera-Finley
Weber

Miller
Enroth

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12-08-2011, 11:39 AM
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As an outsider, just my $0.02. This would be much more fun, if there was a simulator of some sort, that not only accepted/rejected trades, but also simulated games.

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12-08-2011, 11:41 AM
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This ought to be a flame fest.
But, I'll give it a go.

To Buf
Eric Staal

To Car
Drew Stafford
Tyler Ennis
Andrej Sekera
2012 1st rd pick
2012 2nd rd pick (Buffalo's)

lines:

Vanek/Staal/Pominville
Leino/Adam/Kassian
Gerbe/Hecht/Boyes
McCormick/Gaustad/Kaleta

Myers/Regher
Ehrhoff/McNabb
Sekera/Weber
Grags/Finley/Brennan/Scheistel/Crawford in no particular order

Miller/Enroth


Not meaning to flame, but you don't have Roy in your lineup and you traded Sekera away but still have him in the lineup.

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12-08-2011, 11:41 AM
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I'm not alone on the e. Staal idea!

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I'm not trading Kassian. I'm not trading Myers, only trading Armia in a big scoring PF deal. Everything else is available.

1. Boyes (4.0) for Nielsen (0.55). = - 3.45

2. Roy (4.0), Stafford (4.0), Gragnani (0.550), Pysyk, 1st for Staal (8.25), Ruutu (3.8) = +3,5

3. Leopold (3.0), Kaleta (0.858) for Polak (2.75) = -1.108m



Vanek - Staal - Pominville
Leino - Adam - Kassian/Ruutu
Hecht - Nielsen - Ruutu/Tropp
Gerbe - Gaustad - McCormick/Tropp
13th: McCormick/Tropp
Possible AHL: Kassian (not likely)

Myers - Regehr
Ehrhoff - Polak
Sekera - Weber

Miller
Enroth

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As an outsider, just my $0.02. This would be much more fun, if there was a simulator of some sort, that not only accepted/rejected trades, but also simulated games.
There is... It's called PS3 and Xbox

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Ooo Fantasy Land, ok I'll play and I'll do it in two (all moves done in the offseason):

Stafford, Roy and our 1st for Bobby Ryan and Ana 1st. (Draft Grigorenko)

Ennis and MAG/pick (CGY's 2nd) for Ryane Clowe

2012 Lineup
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Thomas Vanek ($7.142m) / Luke Adam ($0.875m) / Jason Pominville ($5.300m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.625m) / Mikael Grigorenko ($3.500m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)
Marcus Foligno ($0.900m) / Ville Leino ($4.500m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Nathan Gerbe ($1.433m) / Paul Gaustad ($2.000m) / Pat Kaleta ($1.000m)
Cody McCormick ($1.200m) / / Corey Tropp ($0.700m)

DEFENSEMEN
Andrej Sekera ($2.750m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Robyn Regehr ($4.020m) / Mark Pysyk ($0.900m)
Jordan Leopold ($3.000m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($4.000m)
/ Mike Weber ($0.950m)

GOALTENDERS
Ryan Miller ($6.250m) / Jhonas Enroth ($0.675m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,191,190; BONUSES: $272,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$1,891,190

I assumed Gaustad's and Kaleta's cap hit for next year and that Grigorenko was drafted 2nd overall (If he get drafted anywhere from 4-6 his cap hit could be around 1.5-2 mil). Also I assumed the cap would go up by about 2 mil as well.

I guess if I can still make a 3rd trade, just deal Boyes at the deadline for a pick. Or if the NYI really would do something like Leino for Nielsen, I probably would and it would save us a ton of cap room.

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what would it take to trade for Briere?

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Not meaning to flame, but you don't have Roy in your lineup and you traded Sekera away but still have him in the lineup.
Yea, sorry about that. I'm at work and rather busy so doing it off the cuff so to speak, thanks for pointing it out though. I put Sekera and meant Leopold and I moved Hecht over to wing and put Roy centering. Gerbe is our 13th forward.

I edited the original.

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12-08-2011, 12:21 PM
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what would it take to trade for Briere?
I don't know, but yes, I would love to see Danny back in Buffalo. He and Leino did very well together in Philly.

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I don't know, but yes, I would love to see Danny back in Buffalo. He and Leino did very well together in Philly.
Been thinking about this too. They obviously won't trade him during the season, but with Giroux, Schenn and Couturier at center he certainly seems like he'd be available for the right package.

I don't really have any trade proposals, all I know is that if either Zach Parise or Ryan Suter make it to free agency this offseason, I hope Pegula throws every penny he's got at either one.

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By the way.....

When I proposed this three-trade scenario, I did so without ANY regard to reality, salary, RFA, UFA, etc.

Just wanted to see what three MAJOR additions you think would all-but-guarantee a Cup victory in June.

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Stafford, Ennis, Boyes, Brennan, CGY 2nd--> Ryan, Lydman, Hagman (cap space)

Gragnani, 3rd--> Frans Nielsen

Roy, Sekera, BUF 2nd--> Stastny, AHL defenseman (for depth)

Waive Hagman

Vanek-Stastny-Ryan
Hecht-Nielsen-Pominville
Leino-Adam-Kassian
Gerbe-Gaustad-Kaleta
x. McCormick

Regehr-Myers
Lydman-Ehrhoff
Weber-Leopold
x. Finley/whoever

Miller
Enroth


Salaries are nearly a wash, but we save a little bit of cap space all together

You have an elite top line, a very good two-way line, a solid secondary scoring line, and a fantastic energy line. You also have a much more physical group of forwards and defenseman from top to bottom. I think this team could seriously contend for a Cup


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Why nobody has proposed a trade for a franchise defenseman is beyond me. Do you guys watch our defense? I like Bobby Ryan, but more wingers? Really? At least do fantasyland right. Tyler Myers may end up a franchise defenseman, but he doesn't have the consistency to be considered as such yet. Regehr is pretty good, but the bloom is coming off that rose for me (I hated the way he played that first goal last night), and he isn't getting any younger.

Trade 1

Tyler Ennis ($875k) + Brad Boyes (4.0)* + Mike Weber ($925k) + Mark Pysyk + 2012 1st

for

Shea Weber (7.5)

*Boyes included for salary reasons this year

TRADE 2

2012 BUF 2nd

for

Frans Nielsen ($525k)

TRADE 3

Drew Stafford (4.0) + Paul Gaustad (2.3) + Jordan Leopold (3.0)

for

Travis Zajac (3.887) + Henrik Tallinder (3.375)

Total In = 14.287
Total Out = 14.800

Vanek-Adam-Pominville
Leino-Roy-Kassian
Hecht-Zajac-Gerbe
McCormick-Nielsen-Kaleta
x Ellis

Weber-Ehrhoff
Tallinder-Myers
Regehr-Sekera
x Gragnani/McNabb/Finley/Brennan/Schiestel

Miller
Enroth

Zajac and Nielsen do all the heavy lifting defensively. Roy and Adam are cast in offensive roles. And that top-6 defense corps is sick.


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I think we can grow into cup contenders. Ennis-Adam-Kassian would be a great second line in 2-3 years. It offers a great blend of size, speed, and skill. Fans just have to be patient with them - especially Ennis.

Aquire more grit in our bottom lines, and trade for a true #1 center with size to play between Vanek/Pomminville.

This leaves us with Roy, Stafford, and futures to aquire a top center.

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3 trades with no basis in reality?

Ryan Miller for Stamkos

Drew Stafford, Mike Weber for Brooks Orpik

Armia, MAG, 1st for Ryan Suter & Anders Lindback

Vanek-Stamkos-Pominville
Ennis-Roy-Boyes
Leino-Adam-Kassian
Gerbe-Gaustad-Hecht
x-Kaleta, McCormick

Suter-Myers
Regehr-Leopold
Orpik-Ehrhoff
x-Sekera

Enroth/Lindback


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Why nobody has proposed a trade for a franchise defenseman is beyond me. Do you guys watch our defense? I like Bobby Ryan, but more wingers? Really? At least do fantasyland right. Tyler Myers may end up a franchise defenseman, but he doesn't have the consistency to be considered as such yet. Regehr is pretty good, but the bloom is coming off that rose for me (I hated the way he played that first goal last night), and he isn't getting any younger.

Trade 1

Tyler Ennis ($875k) + Brad Boyes (4.0)* + Mike Weber ($925k) + Mark Pysyk + 2012 1st

for

Shea Weber (7.5)

*Boyes included for salary reasons this year

TRADE 2

2012 BUF 2nd

for

Frans Nielsen ($525k)

TRADE 3

Drew Stafford (4.0) + Paul Gaustad (2.3) + Jordan Leopold (3.0)

for

Travis Zajac (3.887) + Henrik Tallinder (3.375)

Total In = 14.287
Total Out = 14.800

Vanek-Adam-Pominville
Leino-Roy-Kassian
Hecht-Zajac-Gerbe
McCormick-Nielsen-Kaleta
x Ellis

Weber-Ehrhoff
Tallinder-Myers
Regehr-Sekera
x Gragnani/McNabb/Finley/Brennan/Schiestel

Miller
Enroth

Zajac and Nielsen do all the heavy lifting defensively. Roy and Adam are cast in offensive roles. And that top-6 defense corps is sick.
so awesome...

I think you probably have to add some sweeteners too the Zajac/Tallinder deal (high pick/prospects)

I dont think there is any way Nashville trades Weber. He's still restricted at the end of the year.

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FIRE DARCY...Hello Rick Dudley
FIRE RUFF...Hello Tony Granato

TRADE 1:

TO COLORADO: Derek Roy, Mike Weber, CGY 2nd
TO BUFFALO: Paul Stastny & Shane O'Brien

TRADE 2:

TO WINNIPEG: Tyler Ennis, Brad Boyes, Paul Gaustad, MA Gragnani
TO BUFFALO: Bryan Little, Jim Slater & Arturs Kulda

TRADE 3:

TO DALLAS: Drew Stafford & TJ Brennan
TO BUFFALO: Brenden Morrow & DAL 2012 3rd

VANEK-STASTNY-POMINVILLE
LEINO-ADAM-KASSIAN
HECHT-LITTLE-MORROW
GERBE-SLATER-TROPP
xKaleta, McCormick, Ellis

MYERS-REGEHR
EHRHOFF-LEOPOLD
SEKERA-O'BRIEN
xKulda, McNabb etcetc

MILLER
ENROTH


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The 3 players you target if there's no reality or salary are

Crosby
Weber
Kesler

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The 3 players you target if there's no reality or salary are

Crosby
Weber
Kesler
to be completely honest with you... if I could pick 3 players to build a franchise around, it would be those 3 players.


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