HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > Washington Capitals
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

2011 Acq./Rost. Bldg./Cap Part 3

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
12-15-2011, 03:40 PM
  #1
usiel
HFBoards Sponsor
 
usiel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Malaz City
Country: San Marino
Posts: 9,891
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to usiel
2011 Acq./Rost. Bldg./Cap Part 3

Continue the circular round and round mobius loop debates.

Previous incarnation: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=1041407

__________________
True Story™®©
usiel is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 04:09 PM
  #2
G3 LesPaul
Registered User
 
G3 LesPaul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,658
vCash: 500
No trades yet. We still need help.

Too much do not want on this team

G3 LesPaul is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 04:33 PM
  #3
Mystlyfe
We're Touched
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 12,528
vCash: 500
I hold the hypothesis that the same schism that developed in the Flyers locker room after Pronger was acquired would have developed here. But zero chance that McPhee/Leonsis side with the Pronger half in Washington. We wouldn't have traded away Ovechkin/Green/Semin the way they traded Richards and Carter. It's Pronger who would not be wearing a Capitals jersey anymore.

Mystlyfe is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 05:37 PM
  #4
n3ss
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 930
vCash: 500
Semin++ (one of our goalie prospects, maybe?) to Devils
Parise to Capitals

n3ss is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 05:56 PM
  #5
txpd
Registered User
 
txpd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 40,204
vCash: 500
right. not a chance

txpd is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 06:01 PM
  #6
n3ss
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 930
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by txpd View Post
right. not a chance
I can hope.

n3ss is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 06:56 PM
  #7
Langway
Moderator
Intangibles
 
Langway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 20,696
vCash: 500
Not that it necessarily matters or that anything at all will happen but the holiday roster freeze is from the 19th to the 27th.

Langway is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 07:06 PM
  #8
Carlzner
Who's Zed?
 
Carlzner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Boulder, CO
Country: United States
Posts: 10,616
vCash: 500
Nobody responded to this, and it was one of the last posts at the bottom on one of the pages.... just gonna repost it.



I think the first thing we try to do is something around


Bourque


Schultz
Pick/Prospect


Bourque could light a spark under Semin to get him going (Mojo clearly isn't the problem, as a 2nd liner at least) We would have a decent 2nd liner to play with Semin and Mojo, and maybe that could fix it.


I don't know if i want to do Iginla for Semin... assuming Iginla plays on the 1st line, does that really improve our 2nd line? Our 2nd line is definitely our biggest problem right now imo, and this would just make it Brouwer - Mojo - Eakin(?) Not a big step up.




Since their both upcoming UFA's maybe something around:



Suter
F



Semin
Schultz/Other D
Pick/Prospect

Carlzner is online now  
Old
12-15-2011, 07:10 PM
  #9
ChibiPooky
Moderator
Caps/Avs/Bills fan
 
ChibiPooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fairfax, VA
Country: United States
Posts: 9,205
vCash: 50
I'd love to be able to trade Schultz in both deals... just let them fight for him.

Guess it'd be Schultz and Hamrlik going? Ionno... after getting Bourque, I might turn around and try to flip a pick for a D man. Not like it's that hard to replace a depth guy. Go after a good D-man in the offseason.

ChibiPooky is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 10:05 PM
  #10
G3 LesPaul
Registered User
 
G3 LesPaul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,658
vCash: 500
In other news, Flyers need a D-man to replace pronger

Sarge anyone?

Hes obviously done here

G3 LesPaul is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 10:21 PM
  #11
Mystlyfe
We're Touched
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 12,528
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by G3 LesPaul View Post
In other news, Flyers need a D-man to replace pronger

Sarge anyone?

Hes obviously done here
Pronger plays the right side, where Schultz is known to be iffy. Though with Pronger, Gustafsson, and Lilja down they're awfully thin and might take whatever they can afford.

Mystlyfe is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 10:29 PM
  #12
CapitalsCupFantasy
HFBoards Sponsor
 
CapitalsCupFantasy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 27,666
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystlyfe View Post
Pronger plays the right side, where Schultz is known to be iffy. Though with Pronger, Gustafsson, and Lilja down they're awfully thin and might take whatever they can afford.
Nah....you're exaggerating....

http://youtu.be/Hem4Cthi1nE

CapitalsCupFantasy is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 10:50 PM
  #13
ChibiPooky
Moderator
Caps/Avs/Bills fan
 
ChibiPooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fairfax, VA
Country: United States
Posts: 9,205
vCash: 50
Hamrlik is RD... we can send him, MP, our 1st for JVR

ChibiPooky is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 10:53 PM
  #14
Mystlyfe
We're Touched
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 12,528
vCash: 500
Orlov+ for JVR?

Mystlyfe is offline  
Old
12-15-2011, 11:06 PM
  #15
ChibiPooky
Moderator
Caps/Avs/Bills fan
 
ChibiPooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fairfax, VA
Country: United States
Posts: 9,205
vCash: 50
No way. Orlov is a keeper.

ChibiPooky is offline  
Old
12-16-2011, 12:34 AM
  #16
sunnydaycrash
Registered User
 
sunnydaycrash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Vancouver
Country: Portugal
Posts: 3,712
vCash: 500
Semin is not helping his value in anyway.... He's more of a salary dump at this point unless the Wings want him..... The only way he doesn't run to the KHL in the summer is if the Wings,Caps or possibly the Habs want him.
Think Russian teammates !!!!!

sunnydaycrash is offline  
Old
12-16-2011, 03:02 AM
  #17
Mystlyfe
We're Touched
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 12,528
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChibiPooky View Post
No way. Orlov is a keeper.
And JVR isn't?

Mystlyfe is offline  
Old
12-16-2011, 04:03 AM
  #18
bonzaibondra12
Registered User
 
bonzaibondra12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Rockville, MD
Posts: 1,874
vCash: 500
Dear Neuvy,

Thank you.

Signed,
Me

PS. Keep it up.

that said. Semin can go with Schultz. If Neuvy grabs the 1, I say you look to see if Vokoun has value.

bonzaibondra12 is offline  
Old
12-16-2011, 06:05 AM
  #19
txpd
Registered User
 
txpd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 40,204
vCash: 500
why does nashville want to trade suter for semin? makes no sense on many levels

txpd is offline  
Old
12-16-2011, 06:59 AM
  #20
Carlzner
Who's Zed?
 
Carlzner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Boulder, CO
Country: United States
Posts: 10,616
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonzaibondra12 View Post
Dear Neuvy,

Thank you.

Signed,
Me

PS. Keep it up.

that said. Semin can go with Schultz. If Neuvy grabs the 1, I say you look to see if Vokoun has value.

What is wrong with having an All Star backup with a 1.5mil contract?

Carlzner is online now  
Old
12-16-2011, 07:01 AM
  #21
txpd
Registered User
 
txpd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 40,204
vCash: 500
the caps have three goalies capable of nhl play. thats the minimum. if neuvirth gets keeps it together, the caps will still need vokoun

txpd is offline  
Old
12-16-2011, 07:26 AM
  #22
n3ss
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 930
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystlyfe View Post
And JVR isn't?
I don't see us trading Alzner, Carlson, Green, or Orlov without another defender coming back.

n3ss is offline  
Old
12-16-2011, 07:27 AM
  #23
fsnoles98
Registered User
 
fsnoles98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,058
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by txpd View Post
the caps have three goalies capable of nhl play. thats the minimum. if neuvirth gets keeps it together, the caps will still need vokoun
Apparently you only read the press clippings, Holtby has struggled and very inconsistent in Hershey. His cockiness and edge have been battered a bit, this is by being eye witness, not reading the Lebanon newspaper or AHL website.

fsnoles98 is offline  
Old
12-16-2011, 07:47 AM
  #24
txpd
Registered User
 
txpd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 40,204
vCash: 500
i am not sweating holtby's issues. same could have been said of neuvirth approaching last night's game. last in the league in sv% and all.

edit: frankly, his cockiness and edge needed to and was definately going to be challenged and that its happening at hershey is fine by me. that part of his game that so many love is very hard to make work and a main reason why its so rare. playing the puck aggressively and using his stick against opposing players is far down the list of goalie priorities and need to be used judiciously.

last season i can recall that he holtby making a fine aggressive play with the puck that created a scoring chance. the next time he touched the puck he gave it away and he was still standing behind the goal line when the puck went into his net.

my guess is that dale hunter will want him to stop the puck first. he likes an edge but is also conservative about it. i bet he wants his goalies to be known for stopping the puck more than passing it or slashing opposing crease cruisers


Last edited by txpd: 12-16-2011 at 07:52 AM.
txpd is offline  
Old
12-16-2011, 08:12 AM
  #25
BobRouse
Registered User
 
BobRouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 6,207
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystlyfe View Post
I hold the hypothesis that the same schism that developed in the Flyers locker room after Pronger was acquired would have developed here. But zero chance that McPhee/Leonsis side with the Pronger half in Washington. We wouldn't have traded away Ovechkin/Green/Semin the way they traded Richards and Carter. It's Pronger who would not be wearing a Capitals jersey anymore.
Possible but you have to remember that there was no split of the locker room in St Louis, Edmonton, and Anaheim due to Pronger. I seriously doubt he would have had a problem with Ovechkin but thats just me.

But thats besides the point anyhow...we have a coach who has a system to play one way while our collection of players was accumulated to play a different way. If they can get acclimated then maybe theres some hope. If not I still stand by my take that I want to see ZERO moves (unless something solid comes along which I doubt based on how our tradable pieces are playing) until the offseason.

Besides maybe the D will improve like the PP when Green gets back. I would at least hold off until seeing what the team looks like after he gets back.

BobRouse is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:36 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.