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01-06-2012, 06:21 PM
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Also, rumor has it Garth Snow is open for business.

Were I Bowman, I would phone him up and ask what's the price for Nielsen and/or Streit
No thanks on Streit

That injury he suffered last year has effected him ,, He is brutal this year

Nielsen is having so so year but I have always like his game. Isles dont have C depth to afford to trade him though

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Would love Okposo. An Okposo - Toews - Hossa line would just be a nightmare to play against..
Maybe in a video game ,, But on the ice Okposo has been downright brutal this year

To much of a high risk to suck to waste good assets on

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01-07-2012, 02:18 AM
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Here's my proposal:


To Anaheim: Bickell, Hjalmarsson, Beach, Pirri, 2nd or 3rd round pick
To Chicago: Getzlaf, Beauchemin

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01-07-2012, 08:48 AM
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No thanks on Streit

That injury he suffered last year has effected him ,, He is brutal this year

Nielsen is having so so year but I have always like his game. Isles dont have C depth to afford to trade him though



Maybe in a video game ,, But on the ice Okposo has been downright brutal this year

To much of a high risk to suck to waste good assets on

If you are gonna comment on the isles,could you at least do your homework first?

Streit-coming off major shoulder surgery and struggling badly.But,since the isles have 4 other veteran blueliners about to become ufas this July,it's unlikely the isles even try to move him.

Neilsen-reportedly wants an extension.If he signs a team friendly deal,I expect he'll stay.

Okposo-had a terrible first 14/15 games of the season,playing very timidly.Acted as if he were afraid of re-injuring his shoulder.Cappy sat him for three straight games.Embarrassed him.He's turned his season around

First 15 games:0 goals,3 assists
Last 20 games:8 goals,6 assists

He's once again going to the dirty areas of the ice.3 games ago,he was rewarded for his hardwork:promoted from the 2nd line up to Tavares wing.They look good together.

KO makes $1m this season,$2m next season and $3m in 2013-2014.Isles aren't trading him.

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01-07-2012, 08:56 AM
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Also, rumor has it Garth Snow is open for business.

Were I Bowman, I would phone him up and ask what's the price for Nielsen and/or Streit
If you listened to Dreger and Botta's interview,you'd have heard that Snow's open to making trades,but Dreger hasn't heard any actual names mentioned.

Isles have 4 pmd knocking on the door at Bridgeport and 4 vet blueliners about to become ufs.Snow is looking for a quality top 4 d-man to join Streit/Hamonic/MacDonald and take pressure off Streit.
Isles impending ufas:

Parenteau
Neilsen
Rolston
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Mottou
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Staios
Jurcina
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Nabovkov(sp)

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I see that Matt Walker is on waivers. I wonder if Q would prefer him to Lepisto?

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Here's my proposal:


To Anaheim: Bickell, Hjalmarsson, Beach, Pirri, 2nd or 3rd round pick
To Chicago: Getzlaf, Beauchemin
So

Ducks get a 4th line LW , #4/5 dman , A 4th line LW prospect , A 2nd line C prospect and a pick

For

There #1 C and there best dman?

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Yeah, I'm sure ANA would jump all over that


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I see that Matt Walker is on waivers. I wonder if Q would prefer him to Lepisto?
NO thanks + Walker has 1 more year at 1.7M cap hit left

TB made big mistake with that deal ,, But somehow dumped him to Philly in Gagne deal

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01-07-2012, 03:33 PM
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Here's my proposal:


To Anaheim: Bickell, Hjalmarsson, Beach, Pirri, 2nd or 3rd round pick
To Chicago: Getzlaf, Beauchemin
That's absolutely atrocious.

I offered Frolik, Pirri, Morin, 1st round pick for Ryan and they still declined. What would make you think your offer is any better?

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01-07-2012, 05:57 PM
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I see that Matt Walker is on waivers. I wonder if Q would prefer him to Lepisto?
he was on re-entry before and nobody wanted him. Why should we take him with the double salary?

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That's absolutely atrocious.

I offered Frolik, Pirri, Morin, 1st round pick for Ryan and they still declined. What would make you think your offer is any better?
I threw Bolland ++ out there for either Getzlaf or Ryan and they said they would only make a trade if Toews, Kane, or Keith were going back the other way.

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01-07-2012, 09:26 PM
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word is that Roy is in play...he works perfectly in a number 2 center role

Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Roy-Hossa
Frolik-Bolland-Kruger
Bickell-Mayers-Shaw/Carcillo/Smith/Brunnette

Morin and 1st

roy

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word is that Roy is in play...he works perfectly in a number 2 center role

Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Roy-Hossa
Frolik-Bolland-Kruger
Bickell-Mayers-Shaw/Carcillo/Smith/Brunnette

Morin and 1st

roy
I think Roy just got injured in the last day or two - possibly a separated shoulder. In addition, Buffalo is not out of the playoffs - if they were to trade Roy it would be for shake up reasons and Buffalo would probably want an NHL capable centerman coming back to them in the trade.

If Roy can stay healthy - which has been a problem - Roy is a legit 2nd line center. Plus he's got a year left on a decent contract - $4M. Acquiring Roy wouldn't prevent StanBow from getting the more pressing need of a 3/4 d-man.

It's tempting ... maybe Pirri, Morin and a 2nd.

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01-07-2012, 11:33 PM
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I would say Frolik or Bickell and a prospect for Roy. And I would give them Scott for kicks.

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I threw Bolland ++ out there for either Getzlaf or Ryan and they said they would only make a trade if Toews, Kane, or Keith were going back the other way.
I just threw up in my mouth a little.

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I just threw up in my mouth a little.
yea, I'd trade one of those three all right. If we were getting pre concussion crosby back

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yea, I'd trade one of those three all right. If we were getting pre concussion crosby back


Ridiculous when you think about, what has a "Star/Core" player ever had in return?

Kovalchuk: Oudya, Cormier, Bergfors, 1st and 2nd.

Hossa: Colby Armstrong, Erik Christensen, Angelo Esposito and a 1st.

Pronger: Joffrey Lupul Luca Sbisa 1st round pick (2009) 1st round pick (2010) Conditional 3rd-round pick Not Deadline day

Getzlaf:
Comparable (Oli Jokinen and a 3rd to Calgary for Lombardi, Prust, 1st rounder)

Ryan:

Iginla:

Beachman:

Gleason:
Comparable: Hal Gill to Pittsburgh got Toronto a 2nd and 5th in the draft. Ryan Whitney to Anaheim fetched Kunitz and Tangradi.

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Roy:
Columbus got Vermette for Leclaire plus a 2nd round pick.
Discuss?


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he was on re-entry before and nobody wanted him. Why should we take him with the double salary?
Never said I wanted him. I just recalled that Q used to love him and was doing a little musing...

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I think Roy just got injured in the last day or two - possibly a separated shoulder. In addition, Buffalo is not out of the playoffs - if they were to trade Roy it would be for shake up reasons and Buffalo would probably want an NHL capable centerman coming back to them in the trade.

If Roy can stay healthy - which has been a problem - Roy is a legit 2nd line center. Plus he's got a year left on a decent contract - $4M. Acquiring Roy wouldn't prevent StanBow from getting the more pressing need of a 3/4 d-man.

It's tempting ... maybe Pirri, Morin and a 2nd.
I wanted them to trade for Roy before the season began.

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I wanted them to trade for Roy before the season began.
I remember someone on here wanting that. And it would be very nice to have another legit center for the 2nd line. But he has a separated shoulder and won't do us any good on the medic's table.

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I remember someone on here wanting that. And it would be very nice to have another legit center for the 2nd line. But he has a separated shoulder and won't do us any good on the medic's table.
How long is he out for? Maybe the Hawks can get him for a discount since he is injured?

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A pipe dream for this summer: offer sheet Cory Schneider.

Would love to see him in Chicago.


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Ridiculous when you think about, what has a "Star/Core" player ever had in return?

Kovalchuk: Oudya, Cormier, Bergfors, 1st and 2nd.

Hossa: Colby Armstrong, Erik Christensen, Angelo Esposito and a 1st.

Pronger: Joffrey Lupul Luca Sbisa 1st round pick (2009) 1st round pick (2010) Conditional 3rd-round pick Not Deadline day

Getzlaf:
Comparable (Oli Jokinen and a 3rd to Calgary for Lombardi, Prust, 1st rounder)

Ryan:

Iginla:

Beachman:

Gleason:
Comparable: Hal Gill to Pittsburgh got Toronto a 2nd and 5th in the draft. Ryan Whitney to Anaheim fetched Kunitz and Tangradi.

Rutuu:

Roy:
Columbus got Vermette for Leclaire plus a 2nd round pick.
Discuss?
include the goalie deals like Halak or Luongo. Just to let people see what guys really get traded for

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A pipe dream for this summer: offer sheet Cory Schneider.

Would love to see him in Chicago.
this would piss VAN even more

and not sure if they can match all offers. BOS can match Rask, but not sure about VAN. a 1st & 3rd wouldn't hurt us

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I read to day that ana might be willing to take 2 top prospects and 2 1st picks for either Getlaz or Ryan. I thought I've only heard nhl ready players, etc. Is that too much for Getlaz?

This is exactly what we have and would want to trade for the players were going to get. As long as we re-sign Getlaz its by far worth whoever we would trade and who cares about the picks (we got an extra 1st for Brows, so theres are pick for the '12 draft one year further of progress...).

Even though there are some top prospects we really dont want to give up, we have a lot of them we would still have the normal amount of them left with us and get a player like Getlaz. Thats what I was thinking about when we traded Soupy's 7.1 (2-3 good players instead of 1). Getlaz and Leads for Soupy's 7.1

We still will have plenty of room to get another defenseman and maybe Moen too for 3rd line.

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include the goalie deals like Halak or Luongo. Just to let people see what guys really get traded for


this would piss VAN even more

and not sure if they can match all offers. BOS can match Rask, but not sure about VAN. a 1st & 3rd wouldn't hurt us
Kovalchuk: Oudya, Cormier, Bergfors, 1st and 2nd.--------------------
- |---Iginla comparable.
Hossa: Colby Armstrong, Erik Christensen, Angelo Esposito and a 1st.--

Pronger: Joffrey Lupul Luca Sbisa 1st round pick (2009) 1st round pick (2010) Conditional 3rd-round pick Not Deadline day

Getzlaf:
Comparable (Oli Jokinen and a 3rd to Calgary for Lombardi, Prust, 1st rounder)

Gleason:
Comparable: Hal Gill to Pittsburgh got Toronto a 2nd and 5th in the draft. Ryan Whitney to Anaheim fetched Kunitz and Tangradi.

Rutuu:

Roy:
Columbus got Vermette for Leclaire plus a 2nd round pick.

Luongo: Bryan Allen(top 4 d man at the time), Alex Auld (proven backup at the time), Todd Bertuzzi(proven power forward at the time).

Halak: Lars Eller, Ian Schultz.

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