Look at Hammer. I'm sure he was and is close to our core. Money talks.
Money talks loudest in the face of uncertainty.
When Hammer signed his OS, it was still the middle of the cap clearance sale. He had no idea what kind of money he would be making next year, with the Hawks or any other team. Niemi and Ladd were both still looking to cost a pretty penny, which would mean less money for Hammer. He figured that 3.5M for 4 years would be the best offer he would get from anywhere, and honestly, he was right.
Schneider will get a great contract no matter what happens. He knows that, and more importantly, so does his agent.
He'll get a Crawford-like contract at a bare minimum, though I think he'll be closer to 3.25M. That's a little higher than the Hawks could manage as long as they're still holding onto Crawford.
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I would prefer to OS Rask, or steal Greiss from SJ somehow for cheap.
Schneider would cost a lot, and i'm not sure I trust him.
Boston has the money and cap space to match any OS to Rask. He's clearly their goalie of the post-Thomas future, which might be here as soon as 2014.
Greiss should be doable, but his NHL future is about as questionable as Salak's at this point.
I would prefer to OS Rask, or steal Greiss from SJ somehow for cheap.
Schneider would cost a lot, and i'm not sure I trust him.
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JJ, over on HB, said he heard a couple ppl say we were offered a young gritty forward for Bolland and Stan said no.
Not sure who that young guy could of been.
OS Rask would be good but pointless. Boston will match.
Greiss is not an upgrade over what we have.
I agree with you on Schneider. Not sure if he is that good as many say. Most of the time I see him he doesn't play better than CC. But we could Offer Sheet him just to piss VAN. Give him 3.x (whatever it is that we won't have to give them a 1st + rd) and see what happens. I think they don't want him to get that much.
We'll see how it goes. I think Crawford will be fine and continue to be our starter for years to come. However, if this season were to end in disaster for him and we we're looking at getting a new goalie, it's got to be Rask. The Hawks should have no reservations in offering him 5.5M-6.5M per as he is worth ever penny and one of the top 2 goaltenders in the world. He's proven himself in the regular season many times over and also played very good in the playoffs. If Boston were to match an offer like the above, so be it, but some team out there needs to offer sheet the guy and make Boston sweat because he's the No. 1 prime offer sheet target I've ever seen in my life. He's proven so much is so little time.
We'll see how it goes. I think Crawford will be fine and continue to be our starter for years to come. However, if this season were to end in disaster for him and we we're looking at getting a new goalie, it's got to be Rask. The Hawks should have no reservations in offering him 5.5M-6.5M per as he is worth ever penny and one of the top 2 goaltenders in the world. He's proven himself in the regular season many times over and also played very good in the playoffs. If Boston were to match an offer like the above, so be it, but some team out there needs to offer sheet the guy and make Boston sweat because he's the No. 1 prime offer sheet target I've ever seen in my life. He's proven so much is so little time.
You'd be giving up a two firsts a second and a third for Rask if you offered him $6.5 mil per season.
You'd be giving up a two firsts a second and a third for Rask if you offered him $6.5 mil per season.
Cap it at $6,268,174 per, a 1st and a 3rd but puts them in really hot water with the salary cap. Thing is though, if we needed goalie, I'd still have absolutely no problem giving him the compensation that pushes it to the next tier. He's going to win Vezina's, maybe even this year if he takes over as No. 1.
Hawks showed that you dont invest a ton of $$$ in goalie position
And Rask's #'s are skewed from playing in Bruins strong D system. Put him on Hawks I doubt he has the success he does (NOt saying he would be terrible but look at Bryzgalov for what a system can do for a goalies stats)
Hawks showed that you dont invest a ton of $$$ in goalie position
And Rask's #'s are skewed from playing in Bruins strong D system. Put him on Hawks I doubt he has the success he does (NOt saying he would be terrible but look at Bryzgalov for what a system can do for a goalies stats)
Hmm, so then the same could be said for Crawford and our system.
Hawks showed that you dont invest a ton of $$$ in goalie position
And Rask's #'s are skewed from playing in Bruins strong D system. Put him on Hawks I doubt he has the success he does (NOt saying he would be terrible but look at Bryzgalov for what a system can do for a goalies stats)
and last year showed that you need to invest a ton of $$$ in goalie position to go all the way. (not to mention the money Niemi now gets)
Rask is that good, he (and Thomas) make this team this good.
I don't expect it, but with our team as it is right now, we won't win anything with average (or below average) goaltending --> upgrade the Goalie
Hemsky is 100% available. Look at what Penner got them and expect something like this, maybe maybe a bit less because of the injury history. When healthy, he would help us for sure.
Comparing Detroit's pre-cap era management and it's post-cap management is comparing Apples and Jean Shorts.
Well that depends, both are likable especially the tight short-short jean shorts on women.
I still always wonder how Detroit gets away with giving life time contracts out without having the league sniff around like they did with the Savard, Hoss Luongo and Pronger deals.
