-) we are 5-2-3 in our last 10.
-) we lost most of our games by 1 goal.
-) we still are the team with the most injuries.
-) but we are still 10th
-) not a problem we are a 100pt pace team in our last 6.
Zzzz
No, because by then we'll be close to +10 in points and in playoff contention, and like everytime it goes well for the Habs, YOU will be nowhere to be seen on HF.
If you'd actually realize that the nagging nancy act is what is actually boring, testified by many posters who've commented on not coming here as much as they used to because of the constant, rampant, repetitive, unimaginative and mostly overreacting negativity, coming from people who need to vent their childish frustrations about other people who could school them on hockey any friggin day of the week.
I don't know about you, but I tend to keep my rebellious, indignified, anti-conformist, free minded attitude for things that actually matter. When it comes to hockey, I rather try to enjoy it than constantly needing something from it, that's why I get over a loss very easily. Here's my advice of the week for you; read The Alchemist. It's not about reaching the goal, but the journey to get there.
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What good are Power Plays if your Power Play Goals are disallowed.
Yeah they let us skate 5 on 3 for a little bit, but they didn't allow the goal we scored, so what was the point?
Last I checked... scoring goals, not having PPs is the important stat that determines a winner and loser at the end of the game.
And its not like Philly didn't get any PP chances. They had what? 6?
I'm sorry but 1:40 is not just a little bit. Despite that goal that was refused we should have still scored another especially since Coburn also got a penalty after the original 2 and extended the 5 on 3
There's a new CBA coming, so all odds are out, actually, odds are there will be compliance buyouts with no cap consequence like last time.
PG mentioned they had the philosophy of 'if there's a will, there's a way' -paraphrasing from French (made last week when they got Kab)
1/3 of Gomez's remainging contract years would be 3,33 mil. We paid Brisebois 1,33 in buyout money, I don't see 2 mil more being an issue if it means upgrading the team.
There's a new CBA coming, so all odds are out, actually, odds are there will be compliance buyouts with no cap consequence like last time.
PG mentioned they had the philosophy of 'if there's a will, there's a way' -paraphrasing from French (made last week when they got Kab)
1/3 of Gomez's remainging contract years would be 3,33 mil. We paid Brisebois 1,33 in buyout money, I don't see 2 mil more being an issue if it means upgrading the team.
especially if that upgrade gets this team 2 more home ice games in the playoffs....Molson pulls a profit on the deal in that case
The nagging nancy act is what is actually boring, testified by many posters who've commented on not coming here as much as they used to because of the constant, rampant, repetitive, unimaginative and mostly overreacting negativity, coming from people who need to vent their childish frustrations about other people who could school them on hockey any friggin day of the week.
I don't know about you, but I tend to keep my rebellious, indignified, anti-conformist, free minded attitude for things that actually matter. When it comes to hockey, I rather try to enjoy it than constantly needing something from it, that's why I get over a loss very easily. Here's my advice of the week for you; read The Alchemist. It's not about reaching the goal, but the journey to get there.
A 4-3 loss to a team that has won 7 straight games and is in first place in conference.
One of our goals was disallowed for goalie interference, while on 2 of their goals, they had the same amount of contract (simmonds on price) and more contact (Rinaldo on Price) than Cole had on Bobrovsky.
Still, it was our first regulation loss in the month.
After starting 1-5-2 we are in the mix for a playoff spot.
And people are losing faith?
Yup they are in the hunt for a PO spot yet again. Another season that comes down to the wire where they are fighting for 6-7-8 spot.
Arent you tired of squeeking in every year just to lose anyways?
Arent you tired of watching boring hockey?
Arent you tired of seeing them give up 3rd period leads?
This team has serious problems that cannot be fixed overnight or by making 1 trade.
Yup they are in the hunt for a PO spot yet again. Another season that comes down to the wire where they are fighting for 6-7-8 spot.
Arent you tired of squeeking in every year just to lose anyways?
Arent you tired of watching boring hockey?
Arent you tired of seeing them give up 3rd period leads?
This team has serious problems that cannot be fixed overnight or by making 1 trade.
We didn't squeak in last year. Even with a miracle run and a 5-4-1 mtl record in the last 10 games, the Canes finished 5 points behind us. We had a 10 point lead on 9th place when we had 10 games left. It wasn't a squeak in.
I have faith in the team to win DESPITE the coach.....they would win more WITHOUT that coach. Who in their right mind send Mathieu Darche ( a good 4th line guy with alot of heart) to play close to 20 frekin minutes?!?!?!?!?!
I would be all for replacing JM but I don't see any good candidates. Roy is a farce, he would win more THIS YEAR but long term he would but heads with our best players, and I'm talking Price Subban etc not Gomez. Harltley was good with a powerhouse but was terrible after that...who else? Therien(you must be joking)
We didn't squeak in last year. Even with a miracle run and a 5-4-1 mtl record in the last 10 games, the Canes finished 5 points behind us. We had a 10 point lead on 9th place when we had 10 games left. It wasn't a squeak in.
+1
But we do need to start getting this team built with more Pacioretty type players, and maybe try and get a little bigger. So that we can handle the Western Conference better, as we play them all twice next season, because making the playoffs just got harder with the new Divisions
I would be all for replacing JM but I don't see any good candidates. Roy is a farce, he would win more THIS YEAR but long term he would but heads with our best players, and I'm talking Price Subban etc not Gomez. Harltley was good with a powerhouse but was terrible after that...who else? Therien(you must be joking)
I never would bring in Therien....ewww, I feel dirty for even mentioning that name.
But to get more emotion than JM...I dunno, a rock, maybe a painted rock to add personality too.
Seriously though, Hartley would be ok (short term), Crawford (again, short term), Carlyle (his french is horrible, would need a translator-he is from my hometown so I love the guy).
Price has stole at least 3-4 games by his own to start first, not to mention the loser pt we got cause he kept us in the game..
Again, I'm not sure I agree with that. I don't think Price has stolen a full win yet. You can make the case he bought the team an OT point here and there, but no more.
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Second, how many times did Martin mention bad defensive mistakes cost us goals?
Defensive mistakes cost goals against for every team, not just the Habs. Of course Martin is going to talk about it. It doesn't follow that the Habs make an unusually high number.
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Your arguments dont hold the road, everyone watching the games are aware that Subban isnt having a good season
I see statements like this and sometimes I wonder whether people DO watch the games. Then I remember about the natural observer biases humans have.
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Saying that our blueline has been good since the begin of the season shows your lack of hockey knowledge
"Your disagreeing with me proves that you know nothing, therefore your words have no value and I am right!"
Do you have any evidence to back up your position or is it just "watch the games" (therefore implying "watch the games the way I do")?
I know, can you list those 3-4 wins Price has stolen for the Habs?
We didn't squeak in last year. Even with a miracle run and a 5-4-1 mtl record in the last 10 games, the Canes finished 5 points behind us. We had a 10 point lead on 9th place when we had 10 games left. It wasn't a squeak in.
But it was still in 8th place. And they had to rely on Price and a good PP to get there.
I love the Habs as much as anyone, I just want them to be a contender for the cup, not just a contender to make the playoffs.
I can understand Gomez, but the other 2 make no sense. Gionta puts up about 30 every year and Cammy is usually there also and is a playoff beast.
Making moves based on guys being hurt and/or in a slump is moronoc. I guess we should trade PK also because he had a rough night
For 5 million dollars you can get better than Gionta. If we don't make the playoffs, Cammy's trade value and on-ice value goes to zero. Neither are going to be any good by the time their contracts are done. They've been pushed out of the core by Pacioretty, Eller and Desharnais.
For 5 million dollars you can get better than Gionta. If we don't make the playoffs, Cammy's trade value and on-ice value goes to zero. Neither are going to be any good by the time their contracts are done. They've been pushed out of the core by Pacioretty, Eller and Desharnais.
Last summer guys like Fleshmann, Leino and co all got 4.5mil/year so Gionta at 5 is not far from his value...30 goals a year and a great leader.
Cammy is struggling, a hot streak and his numbers are back up to career average. I love how our fans love throwing our players under the bus when things don't go well.
That's just the prevailing story. The media say that because that's what they've been trained to say every single year.
That, plus seeing several quality saves every game and not realizing that a league-average goaltending is expected to make such saves every games (otherwise he'd be below league-average). So it looks like Price saves the day several times a game because that's what a typical NHL-quality starter does. And when he doesn't, it's someone else's fault and Price just couldn't save his ass. The difference is in the frequency in which this happens.
Here is the thing that the media won't tell you: Montreal's goaltending has been roughly league-average. Montreal's defense has been very strong. That's probably a good thing, because Price is quite capable of improving on .917 (18th in the league).
Of course, it probably also forces the conclusion that Martin must be doing something right, especially given his battered blueline. Good luck getting many people to admit that though.
You never have a problem letting reality get in the way of your faith in Martin and this team. Don't use your eyes, find a selective stat or a firm opinion and ignore the rest. They went 2-2-4 for a stretch recently and gained ground in the standings because there are so many other bad teams piling up losses in the division and guys like you raved about 5-game point streaks. Sure, stats-wise the NHL wants to pretend the Habs are .500 but if you watched those games you saw 2 wins and 6 losses. Wow, how could anyone complain about that? That is proof we're on the right track! Go ahead, keep raving about this team. You only expose yourself as not knowing ***** hockey when it's right in front of you. I'm sorry, is my bias showing? No, actually that's my love of hockey and my forty years of watching it. This team is being atrociously coached, and while the GM has assembled enough talent to be competitive, the pieces don't add up to a real team. They're agony to watch for those of us who can't replace our vision with our hopes. You, clearly, have found the faith and more power to you. Ignorance is bliss and all that.
At least we can say that our team is clearly the league's softest. I don't think anyone disputes that. So much to be proud of.
No, because by then we'll be close to +10 in points and in playoff contention, and like everytime it goes well for the Habs, YOU will be nowhere to be seen on HF. GTFO troll.
If you'd actually realize that the nagging nancy act is what is actually boring, testified by many posters who've commented on not coming here as much as they used to because of the constant, rampant, repetitive, unimaginative and mostly overreacting negativity, coming from people who need to vent their childish frustrations about other people who could school them on hockey any friggin day of the week.
I don't know about you, but I tend to keep my rebellious, indignified, anti-conformist, free minded attitude for things that actually matter. When it comes to hockey, I rather try to enjoy it than constantly needing something from it, that's why I get over a loss very easily. Here's my advice of the week for you; read The Alchemist. It's not about reaching the goal, but the journey to get there.
You talk me about The Alchemist? What the hell, are you in Cegep? I read that book in my first years in Cegep and now I'm way ahead of that.
What are you trying to tell me exactly? I'm sick and tired of the 'always' happy people, who enjoy every -****ing- thing! Yes you attitute type of fan. If the Habs were dead last on the East you guys would still be saying : Oh well, we are top 10 in 5-on-5 goals.
Don't you understand that we dont have a good team? Oh well we are missing Mr. Markov and Mr. Gionta. Yeah and? Is that a reason to be 11th-12th-10th-9th in the East? Pittsburgh don't have Letang and Crosby, do you think they ACCEPTS to suck because of injuries?
I, personally, am pissed of JM's attitude. And I have the right to express it, like you have the right to express how happy you are to be again and again the fan of a crappy team.
And you are exactly the type of fan that will come to me and say : if you're not happy theres plenty of other teams to be a fan of? Oh yeah? That's how, the Mtl Canadiens will have a better team? To move all the angry fans, who wants us to WIN and do everything in our power to WIN?
Have you ever thought about that? Its because of fans like you that we cannot move to the next level. Because the Bell Centre is allways full. Lets get back to some seriousness: If you were able to accept that some of us, actually wants CHANGES FOR THE GOOD of the organisation because we are watching ****** teams and ****** teams since '93. Molson wont make any real changes as long as we keep 'falling in love' with a 10th place team. And i dont care if you cant admit it or not. Its the truth.
And if you think you can 'school' me on hockey. Kiddo, you have a lot to learn.
Still, you can pay 300 bucks a ticket and tell your friends on facebook how happy you are to go to the bell centre, to applause a ****** team. Its your right as a GOOD-wll trained-Fan.
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For christ sakes people. How many times does it have to be said? What will it take to weave this message through your thick skulls? WE ARE A .500 TEAM WITHOUT ANDREI MARKOV!!! and considering the plague of other injuries we've had, including no gomez and gionta in this one, staying above .500 seems like a pretty good accomplishment to me. We're tied for 7th. Calm....the ****.......down.
That's just the prevailing story. The media say that because that's what they've been trained to say every single year.
That, plus seeing several quality saves every game and not realizing that a league-average goaltending is expected to make such saves every games (otherwise he'd be below league-average). So it looks like Price saves the day several times a game because that's what a typical NHL-quality starter does. And when he doesn't, it's someone else's fault and Price just couldn't save his ass. The difference is in the frequency in which this happens.
Here is the thing that the media won't tell you: Montreal's goaltending has been roughly league-average. Montreal's defense has been very strong. That's probably a good thing, because Price is quite capable of improving on .917 (18th in the league).
Of course, it probably also forces the conclusion that Martin must be doing something right, especially given his battered blueline. Good luck getting many people to admit that though.
MM see my posts in the PGT and the Price 7 mill. thread. Seems you at least are aware of the reality. I will not rant again, and I do not hate CP, but there is no evidence that Price has made our record better this year. I would say the opposite might be true.
