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Cunneyworth named interim Head Coach/Carrière Assistant Coach

View Poll Results: What traits do you want for next coach?
Hire from within the organization 1 2.00%
Play offense and don't sit 20 40.00%
Must be bilingual 3 6.00%
Keep the defensive system 1 2.00%
Hire the best coach available 42 84.00%
Play in your face hockey w / forechecking 22 44.00%
Keep a fighter in the lineup and play him 5 10.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

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12-17-2011, 03:01 PM
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All I know is Rejean Houle was on par with Milbury as one of the worst GMs in NHL history. He destroyed this franchise. I was too young back then, but I wonder what the basis for his hiring was and who the other candidates were.

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He's got a working relationship with some of the Hamilton talent from last season which might be good.

Also, being a 10-year AHL coach, he might be a little more forgiving to mistakes and give the youngsters a little more ice-time, which is a good thing.

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12-17-2011, 03:02 PM
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What I want to know is when this organization is going to really grow some balls and hire Pauline Marois as head coach. She's the only one that really gets the concerns of our franco fans.

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Humm....

Actually, there's a 3rd way.

Not being part of a "faction".
I don't consider myself part of any faction. I don't think I have weighed in on that argument myself. Though maybe I have, I cannot remember. But I know what you are referring to, and those people are not arguing that the best possible candidate can not possibly be french, they are simply arguing that we should not limit our pool of candidates based on language. While it is possible that the best candidate is bilingual, these people are just acknowledging the possibility that he may not be.

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The real 2 factions are
1.The fans
2.The journalists
That's the thing.

SOME guys in the French media obviously have an agenda. But the same can be said for the English media as well (way more subtle, but still there).

As for the fans? I mean... Yeah. But everybody has a different way to be a fan.

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12-17-2011, 03:04 PM
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What I want to know is when this organization is going to really grow some balls and hire Pauline Marois as head coach. She's the only one that really gets the concerns of our franco fans.
What are your concerns? I'm truly asking.

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I don't consider myself part of any faction. I don't think I have weighed in on that argument myself. Though maybe I have, I cannot remember. But I know what you are referring to, and those people are not arguing that the best possible candidate can not possibly be french, they are simply arguing that we should not necessarily restrict candidates on the basis of language.
My point is : the question will be raised anyway, if Cunnyworth's remplacement, if any (I think it's possible that they might end up keeping Cunnyworth), ends up being a French guy.

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12-17-2011, 03:06 PM
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What I want to know is when this organization is going to really grow some balls and hire Pauline Marois as head coach. She's the only one that really gets the concerns of our franco fans.
Pauline Marois has a wonderful knack of making sure everyone agrees one to another.

(In that, obviously, everybody dislikes her in a way or another).

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12-17-2011, 03:10 PM
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What are your concerns? I'm truly asking.
Well, since you're sincerely asking...

My concerns are the lack of sarcasm detectors in Canada. It's a serious issue.

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My point is : the question will be raised anyway, if Cunnyworth's remplacement, if any (I think it's possible that they might end up keeping Cunnyworth), ends up being a French guy.
I fully understand that the coach will be bilingual, regardless of his first language. So I am not in that 'faction', but I thought your characterization of their viewpoint was unfair. To argue that we should consider all coaches in the pool for the sake of determining the best possible candidate is not the same as saying the best possible candidate cannot possibly be French. Surely, you understand logic enough to know that A != B in this case. It is irresponsible of you to put words in people's mouths.

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12-17-2011, 03:15 PM
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Cunneyworth is horrible. Remember when Montreal was tooling the Thrashers year after year? Most of the time, he was on the bench looking like this after they inevitably got scored on:



I'm really feeling for you guys right now.

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12-17-2011, 03:18 PM
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Cunneyworth is horrible. Remember when Montreal was tooling the Thrashers year after year? Most of the time, he was on the bench looking like this after they inevitably got scored on:



I'm really feeling for you guys right now.
He was HC? And anyway, I think we can call this season a day and prepare for next year.

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He was HC? And anyway, I think we can call this season a day and prepare for next year.
Assistant coach, in charge of forwards & (lack of) tactics.

The team was soft as toilet paper (partly because of the players) and COULD NOT adjust to any sort of adversity. The latter part wasn't helped because the HC was horrible in his own right at making changes, but Cunneyworth literally was being paid to stand behind the bench and stare into oblivion.

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If the next coach has to speak french (It's not my wish)

Who are the candidates?

I created a list (feel free to add some names). There are some decent candidates but not one that I really want...


Maybe
-Carbo
-Clement Jodoin
-Denis Savard
-Benoît Groulx

Do not want
-M. Therrien
-Hartley
-Pascal Vincent
-Tourigny
-Crawford (not sure his french is good enough to do press conferences anyway)

Will not happen
-Robinson
-Lemaire
-Roy (PG will never hire him)


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12-17-2011, 03:29 PM
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Both PG and RC will be fired after the "miss the playoffs spring cleaning"

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Winning is more important, ask any of the hab greats and do you think they would rather win or their coach to talk to them in french? This franchise has been in the toilet for years thanks to being forced to pick a bilingual coach, NO MORE.
What a stupid and ignorant comment. I suppose the 29 other franchises are all doing GREAT because they aren't forced to hire a bilingual coach, right? Do I really have to post once again the list of career accomplishments of our last franco coaches vs the leafs' unilingual ones?

I swear if you add the word french to any post the collective IQ of this board drops by 50 points.

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Both PG and RC will be fired after the "miss the playoffs spring cleaning"
I am Trevor Timmins and I smell a promotion.

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Cunneyworth is horrible. Remember when Montreal was tooling the Thrashers year after year? Most of the time, he was on the bench looking like this after they inevitably got scored on:



I'm really feeling for you guys right now.
The same Thrashers that are now in Winnipeg ?

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The same Thrashers that are now in Winnipeg ?
What does that have to do with anything he said?

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What does that have to do with anything he said?
Well lets see ! We finally fire JM to be told by a Trashers fan that Cunnyworth basically sucks and how bad it's going to be.

Actually i thought i was nice, would you like me to be more direct next time ?

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Most interesting part for me :
“We have to get back to doing things the players are capable of …” – Randy Cunneyworth
And that they ll work on speed, skills hard work (and hopefully better puck possession management.)
That s what I wanted to hear today, and ultimately I think that s what was-still is, the nerve of the problem, JM system wasnt adapting his style to the players but wanted it the other way around, now it has to go both way, because players cant just choose how they want to play it has to be within a system, but it all has to balance, and it wasnt balancing at all with JM.

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Well lets see ! We finally fire JM to be told by a Trashers fan that Cunnyworth basically sucks and how bad it's going to be.

Actually i thought i was nice, would you like me to be more direct next time ?
Randy was headcoach in ahl for 8 years with The Americans(2000-2008*)....if anyone wants to go look at his records etc

2000–01 80 46 22 9 3 — 104 pts/ GF224 /GA 192 1st, Mid-Atlantic
2001–02 80 32 30 15 3 — 82 206 211 2nd, Central
2002–03 80 31 30 14 5 — 81 219 221 2nd, Central
2003–04 80 37 28 10 5 — 89 207 188 3rd, North
2004–05 80 51 19 — 6 4 112 243 208 1st, North
2005–06 80 37 39 — 2 2 78 261 270 5th, North
2006–07 80 48 30 — 1 1 98 269 250 2nd, North
2007–08 80 24 46 — 6 4 58 197 291 7th, North

He coached the team for eight years as the full-time head coach with a record of 306-267-67

Bulldogs

2010–11 80 44 27 — 2 7 95 229 192 1st, North

On April 14, 2010, Cunneyworth was fired, along with the rest of the Thrashers' coaching staff.

On December 17, 2011, he was named interim head coach of the Montreal Canadiens, replacing Jacques Martin.


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Well lets see ! We finally fire JM to be told by a Trashers fan that Cunnyworth basically sucks and how bad it's going to be.
He wasn't trying to be insulting or anything.

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Well lets see ! We finally fire JM to be told by a Trashers fan that Cunnyworth basically sucks and how bad it's going to be.

Actually i thought i was nice, would you like me to be more direct next time ?
The guy came in this thread to give his opinion on Cunneyworth. Apparently Cunneyworth wasn't good in Atlanta, no need to remind the guy his team just moved jut because his opinion on Cunneyworth isn't positive.


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What a stupid and ignorant comment. I suppose the 29 other franchises are all doing GREAT because they aren't forced to hire a bilingual coach, right? Do I really have to post once again the list of career accomplishments of our last franco coaches vs the leafs' unilingual ones?

I swear if you add the word french to any post the collective IQ of this board drops by 50 points.
Are you trying to insinuate that the more bilingual a coach, or the more a coach speaks french the more inherently qualified he is for the position?

All anyone is saying, despite the clumsy wording, is that the most qualified person will not always be a french speaker. To suggest that they will be would be nationalistic at best, and xenophobic at worst. We would like to hire the most qualified people. But because of people like you we can't.

That's the issue.

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