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12-02-2012, 12:39 PM
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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins' shoulder isn't "injured" per se but hasn't felt quite right this season in AHL. So he's back in EDM for evaluation.

Yikes, I doubt EDM lets him play if he's still not right in a few days.

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12-02-2012, 12:41 PM
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Via Glen Princepe on Twitter:

"RNH traveling to Edm. Wants to play in WJHC. Oilers support decision."



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12-02-2012, 12:42 PM
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So, who's gonna play in team Canada at the WJC? Could you stop talking nonsense and give some updated roster speculations?

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12-02-2012, 12:58 PM
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Nugent Hopkins and Hubderdeau together has the potential to be just unreal. Both have so much skill, and are strong down low that I cant wait to see the stuff they pull.

Honestly, those two with Rattie seems like a dynamic 1st line

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12-02-2012, 01:00 PM
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Don't like him sorry

Small and not exactly lighting it up.
I agree. This kid was a spark plug at the Ivan Hlinka. His size didn't really matter because he was blowing by everyone, but against the Russians this past SuperSeries he didn't do anything other than get into a hugging match with Yakupov. I didn't see that burst of speed that he had a year or two ago in the Hlinka. I have him on my team, and so does McKenzie, but the more I think of it I don't think this kid is making the team.

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12-02-2012, 01:03 PM
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I still believe that MacKinnon on the wing with Huberdeau and RNH would be insane lol..even though he's more comfortable as a center.

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12-02-2012, 01:22 PM
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I still believe that MacKinnon on the wing with Huberdeau and RNH would be insane lol..even though he's more comfortable as a center.
ya you could honestly put my right shoe on the wing with them and it would be 5th in tournament scoring.

I like Rattie or maybe Puempel (if he makes it) on the other wing with those two just because they seem to be more impulsive shooters and i could see rnh and huberdeau just passing for days and passing up quality shooting opportunities. Thats just my initial thoughts anyways, either way you cant really go wrong..

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12-02-2012, 01:30 PM
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Ceci is ppg on a bad team while Harrington is like 12th in scoring on his team.

Harrington simply doesn't have the skill level



Strome is 3C because of Ritchie.

And Jenner-Monahan-Scheifele is my shutdown line.



Well I don't think they should be.




My team is all out offense pretty much, guys like Harrington and Reinhart who are awful offensively simply don't fit there.
It's not an all star game, it's a tournament.

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12-02-2012, 01:42 PM
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Ceci is ppg on a bad team while Harrington is like 12th in scoring on his team.

Harrington simply doesn't have the skill level



Strome is 3C because of Ritchie.

And Jenner-Monahan-Scheifele is my shutdown line.



Well I don't think they should be.


My team is all out offense pretty much, guys like Harrington and Reinhart who are awful offensively simply don't fit there.
Its funny, Harrington was a big offensive defenseman in minor hockey, amazing how his game has changed the past while. Im sure if he wanted to he certainly could be a decent offensive defenseman.

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12-02-2012, 01:45 PM
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What I want to see as the line up

Huberdeau - RNH - Rattie
Drouin - Mackinnon - Strome*
Hudon - Jenner - Schiefele
Ritchie - Monahan - Wilson
Danault

Hamilton - Rielly
Harrington - Ouellet
Reinhart - Dumba
Murphy

M Subban


*Strome could play C and Mackinnon W also

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12-02-2012, 01:52 PM
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Zach Fucale should earn the backup spot. The kid knows when to elevate his game when needed.

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12-02-2012, 01:53 PM
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Ceci is ppg on a bad team while Harrington is like 12th in scoring on his team.

Harrington simply doesn't have the skill level

My team is all out offense pretty much, guys like Harrington and Reinhart who are awful offensively simply don't fit there.
You need guys like Harrington. He isn't going to produce big point totals anywhere, but he's a solid defensive defensemen and one that was on the team last year. I highly doubt Harrington gets cut from this team.

You don't need a defense where they all have high point totals because you need a mixture of guys like Harrington in there as well.

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12-02-2012, 01:56 PM
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Huberdeau-RNH-Schefeile
Drouin-Mackinnon-Rattie
Hudon-Strome-Ritchie
Monahan-Jenner-Danault
Puempel ( Spott factor )

Harrington-Hamilton
Reilly-Ouellet
Percy-Murphy
Reinhart

Subban
Binnington
Dreidger/Fucale ( for next year experience )

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12-02-2012, 02:08 PM
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Man, what happened to someone "hearing" that Hockey Canada would "cheap out on insurance" and that players like RNH wouldn't be invited?

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12-02-2012, 02:09 PM
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There is no good reason to keep Harrington off. He was actually one of our better d-men offensively last year... and considering he isn't know as a great offensive player just shows how versatile he is. This shouldn't even be a debate.

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12-02-2012, 03:12 PM
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from a strategic perspective, I don't see why they wouldn't break up RNH and Huberdeau. Those two would anchor two really, really dangerous scoring lines.

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12-02-2012, 03:31 PM
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from a strategic perspective, I don't see why they wouldn't break up RNH and Huberdeau. Those two would anchor two really, really dangerous scoring lines.
They also have Strome and Mackinnon who are equally dangerous. I could see them putting Huberdeau and RNH together on the top line

Huberdeau-RNH-Rattie
Hudon-Strome-Ritchie
Monahan-Mackinnon-Schiefele
Danault-Jenner-Wilson
DiGiuseppe

Rielly-Hamilton
Harrington-Oullet
Reinhart-Corrado (possibly Dumba)
Murphy

Subban
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12-02-2012, 04:06 PM
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Scheifele won't be playing third line wing. He'll be top line RW or second or third line center, depending if Storme plays center. If he's not used as the trigger man for RNH he's the kind of guy you want centering a line, be it in a scoring role on the second line or a shutdown role on the third.

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12-02-2012, 04:08 PM
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They also have Strome and Mackinnon who are equally dangerous. I could see them putting Huberdeau and RNH together on the top line

Huberdeau-RNH-Rattie
Hudon-Strome-Ritchie
Monahan-Mackinnon-Schiefele
Danault-Jenner-Wilson
DiGiuseppe

Rielly-Hamilton
Harrington-Oullet
Reinhart-Corrado (possibly Dumba)
Murphy

Subban
Binnington
Fucale
You dont think Drouin makes it?

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12-02-2012, 04:10 PM
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Its so great that we have a problem of too many scoring centers this year. Last year Hockey Canada absolutely needed Schiefele and Strome to show up because otherwise we were "thin" down the middle.

This year, we have those 2, plus RNH, plus Mackinnon, plus Monahan, and that doesnt even include Hubderdeau.

Even with Murray out, there is no reason why Canada doesnt win this year. The Swedes are going to be crippling without Ziba, Brodin and Kelfbom. This is a down year for the US. Really the two best teams after Canada are the Russians, and the Finns (Barkov, Markus Granlund, Armia, Salomaki, Teuvu, Pokka, Ristolainen, Maata)

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12-02-2012, 04:12 PM
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Its so great that we have a problem of too many scoring centers this year. Last year Hockey Canada absolutely needed Schiefele and Strome to show up because otherwise we were "thin" down the middle.

This year, we have those 2, plus RNH, plus Mackinnon, plus Monahan, and that doesnt even include Hubderdeau.

Even with Murray out, there is no reason why Canada doesnt win this year. The Swedes are going to be crippling without Ziba, Brodin and Kelfbom. This is a down year for the US. Really the two best teams after Canada are the Russians, and the Finns (Barkov, Markus Granlund, Armia, Salomaki, Teuvu, Pokka, Ristolainen, Maata)
I wouldn't plan the parade yet. It's a single loss elimination tournament. Anything could happen

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12-02-2012, 04:23 PM
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from a strategic perspective, I don't see why they wouldn't break up RNH and Huberdeau. Those two would anchor two really, really dangerous scoring lines.
And given what Huberdeau and MacKinnon have shown together recently, I think Huberdeau - RNH - MacKinnon should just get written down in ink already (although I'd freely swap Huberdeau and Drouin if a spark was needed). Rounding out the rest:

[Huberdeau(/Drouin) - RNH - MacKinnon]
Drouin(/Huberdeau) - Strome - Ritchie
Monahan - Scheifele - Rattie
Beauvillier - Jenner - Wilson

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12-02-2012, 04:24 PM
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Its so great that we have a problem of too many scoring centers this year. Last year Hockey Canada absolutely needed Schiefele and Strome to show up because otherwise we were "thin" down the middle.

This year, we have those 2, plus RNH, plus Mackinnon, plus Monahan, and that doesnt even include Hubderdeau.

Even with Murray out, there is no reason why Canada doesnt win this year. The Swedes are going to be crippling without Ziba, Brodin and Kelfbom. This is a down year for the US. Really the two best teams after Canada are the Russians, and the Finns (Barkov, Markus Granlund, Armia, Salomaki, Teuvu, Pokka, Ristolainen, Maata)
I don't see it as a down year for the U.S. at all (unless Gibson can't make it).

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You dont think Drouin makes it?
I don't think HC brings 3 draft eligible players and Monahan and Mackinnon both deserve it more. I think Drouin should be there, but HC doesn't always make the most logical decisions

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12-02-2012, 04:46 PM
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I think one player that deserves more recognition is Matt Puempel. Steve Spott knows him, he's had a great year, is a dynamic player, and is a natural left-winger (which Canada could use given Rattie/MacKinnon/Schiefele may be better suited at right wing).

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