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12-17-2011, 07:52 PM
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Rebuild

It's time. This franchise is do.

In the past, with unstable ownership or a "bottom line" profit focused owner, a rebuild was practically impossible. The fans wouldnt stand for it, and it would cost the owner.

But now, with Pegula, i expect the fan base would be far more supportive of a young, rebuilding franchise... with a fresh face behind the bench, and a new management group focused on building a contender over the long run, rather then trying to make fixes each year.

It's time to bottom out. Trade the Rochester core. Stock up on young talent, high picks, and let the talent grow up together while adding to the pool for 2-3 years while a new core goes through the struggles together.

Build around Myers, Kassian, McNabb, Ennis, Gerbe, Enroth, Adam, Armia, Pysyk, etc.

Get assets by trading as much of the Rochester core as possible. ESPECIALLY Roy and Miller.

Start now...

We cannot endure this any longer, this whole group from management, to coaching staff, to the leadership in the lockerroom has broken the last straw...

FIRE RUFF
FIRE REGIER
BLOW UP THE EXISTING CORE

DO IT NOW... Before it's too late, and the team gets healthy. Because at that point, the will be a decent hockey team again, and they will be in the playoff picture again... and at best they will be 1 and done again... and then we have to do this all over again next year.

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12-17-2011, 07:56 PM
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Blow It All Up

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12-17-2011, 07:58 PM
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12-17-2011, 07:59 PM
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I gotta say, I personally am reluctant about Regier and Ruff. The rest I'm with you all the way. Maybe keep Vanek and Pominville from the "Rochester core" unless the return is high enough.

But I've always loved Lindy, and I feel like Darcy makes pretty solid moves for the most part. But... Maybe it's time. I just really wanted to see Lindy win it all here.

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12-17-2011, 08:04 PM
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Not necessary. Overhaul? Yeah. Rebuild? No.

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12-17-2011, 08:06 PM
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You can't tell the fanbase at large that you're going to blow it up and suck for 4-5 years 9 months into your term as owner.


Fire Ruff first, and see what happens.

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A full rebuild is completely unneeded and would be obnoxious imo.

Coaching/management change and one or two key trades would be as far as i would go.

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12-17-2011, 08:33 PM
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Don't rebuild...

Just trade players, and add some away. I say trade up to get a HIGH first round draft pick and get a superstar in here

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12-17-2011, 08:35 PM
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Completely agree. It is time to rebuild this club properly.

This has gone on long enough.

Good post Jame.
And I am glad other fans see it as well.

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A full rebuild is completely unneeded and would be obnoxious imo.

Coaching/management change and one or two key trades would be as far as i would go.
And with that you wouldn't be going to any Cup parade's in Buffalo anytime soon.....

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12-17-2011, 08:37 PM
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Trade for picks, bottom out, draft high, and build the way the best teams in the league do.

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Don't rebuild...

Just trade players, and add some away. I say trade up to get a HIGH first round draft pick and get a superstar in here
This is the very first thing I'd look at for the rebuild.
Move the "Rochester Core" assets to get what is needed to build a winner.

They have value individually to other teams.

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12-17-2011, 08:42 PM
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Uh, yeah, you usually start the rebuild before you hand out like $2 trillion in long term contracts.

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I say wait out the year atleast bit another first round exit and I wouldn't be upset with a rebuild. We could really get some good young players and picks from the Rochester core that would set up a superstar team 5 years from now

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Not necessary. Overhaul? Yeah. Rebuild? No.
what's the difference?

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You can't tell the fanbase at large that you're going to blow it up and suck for 4-5 years 9 months into your term as owner.


Fire Ruff first, and see what happens.
sure you can... it would sound something like this...

"Look guys, I'm gonna spend a boatload of money, and we are going to get the best hockey guys in the business into our front office, and we are going to find the right coach... and the guys here for the last 5 seasons... they can't get it done. so we are going to start fresh, and with the resources available we should have this turned around in 2 years. are you with me?"

hell yea, im with you...

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A full rebuild is completely unneeded and would be obnoxious imo.

Coaching/management change and one or two key trades would be as far as i would go.
yea, i think if you get rid of the long term gm/coach, and get rid of a few key players... that's called rebuilding.

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what's the difference?
Overhaul = Philadelphia Flyers
Rebuild = Edmonton Oilers

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12-17-2011, 09:44 PM
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Overhaul: Philadelphia Flyers
Rebuild: Edmonton Oilers

*Overhaul just means getting rid of certain players.... lets say the Rochester Core(minus Vanek) and replacing them with potential

*Rebuild means you dump for accesses that may/may not help you and you keep no longer (who isn't Vanek and hasn't played for the Sabres more than 3 season)

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12-17-2011, 09:49 PM
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Overhaul = Philadelphia Flyers
Rebuild = Edmonton Oilers
philly didnt fire the gm/coach...
Buffalo doesn't have anywhere near the talent that Philly "overhauled" around.

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12-17-2011, 09:51 PM
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Fire Regier
Fire Ruff
Trade Miller
Trade Roy
Trade Stafford

what's that...overhaul or rebuild?

i don't give a **** if you call it an underbuild... who gives a ****. the premise is to clean the house.

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Vanek-X-Pominville
Ennis-X-X
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Regher-Myers
X-Ehrhoff
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Boot Ruff and Regier before the season ends. Let whoever comes in shape the roster as they see fit.

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I don't think Enroth is a #1 goalie.

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I get rid of Regier first. We need an aggressive GM who makes good deals. Let him decide who he wants behind the bench. The players are more of an issue then the coaching staff.

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