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12-23-2011, 11:21 AM
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You know if people would just accept the coach has some responsibility of getting the team into the playoffs and other results ...

RW certainly takes credit for his 600+ wins, so why do we continuously read "you can't blame Wilson with the players he's had"?

I can't forget RW's comment about "You people up there" talking about Canadians while he was coach of the Sharks. Sorry, to me that is his true opinion about his ex-Country.
You keep spouting this off and I don't know why, because that's just the way you twisted and turned your way through the argument at the time, and now you throw it into a thread at your pleasure. Most people don't even know where it's coming from.

Of course as someone who disregards a coaches role in player development, it's no big surprise you want to hold onto this "but RW didn't use Jeff Finger to get us to the playoffs".

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12-23-2011, 11:26 AM
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You know if people would just accept the coach has some responsibility of getting the team into the playoffs and other results ...

RW certainly takes credit for his 600+ wins, so why do we continuously read "you can't blame Wilson with the players he's had"?

I can't forget RW's comment about "You people up there" talking about Canadians while he was coach of the Sharks. Sorry, to me that is his true opinion about his ex-Country.
Wilson also has 600+ career losses which no one seems to talk about. I agree with you, playoffs or he's gone. Burke's position would be next in line if he doesn't make the playoffs in year 5.

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12-23-2011, 11:36 AM
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I refuse to think he is idiotic enough to not fire Ron barring some miracle mid-late season.

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12-24-2011, 11:04 AM
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I see you are airing your grievances well, my friend.

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12-24-2011, 11:15 AM
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You keep spouting this off and I don't know why, because that's just the way you twisted and turned your way through the argument at the time, and now you throw it into a thread at your pleasure. Most people don't even know where it's coming from.

Of course as someone who disregards a coaches role in player development, it's no big surprise you want to hold onto this "but RW didn't use Jeff Finger to get us to the playoffs".

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Because Wilson developing players is an 'opinion' but Wilson sucks is a 'fact' didn't you know that?

McLellan has been to the semis twice!! Sharks are way better now!! Wilson sucks! Leafs should have won three cups by now... Wilson sucks!!

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12-24-2011, 11:31 AM
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Because Wilson developing players is an 'opinion' but Wilson sucks is a 'fact' didn't you know that?

McLellan has been to the semis twice!! Sharks are way better now!! Wilson sucks! Leafs should have won three cups by now... Wilson sucks!!
Do you also blame Wilson for the players that don't develop .

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12-24-2011, 11:32 AM
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If Burke gives Wilson an extension right now, he`ll be roasted for it and it will become a distraction.

He would have given Wilson an extension already last summer, if not for the big backlash that started.

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12-24-2011, 12:42 PM
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Because Wilson developing players is an 'opinion' but Wilson sucks is a 'fact' didn't you know that?

McLellan has been to the semis twice!! Sharks are way better now!! Wilson sucks! Leafs should have won three cups by now... Wilson sucks!!
The team's record is a fact.

Burke is ultimately responsible for acquiring the players, even if Nonis does the leg work.

Burke is ultimately responsible for the results of the team.

If he extends RW there should be a reason to do so. If he believes bringing in better players to help achieve better results makes the coaches job easier that is what he should do. Ron Wilson is not responsible for the talent on the team.

Players have to do it during games to get a better contract, same as Burke has to achieve to get extended. Burke will only extend RW if he believes he will benefit from doing so.

Burke won't be fired for extending Ron Wilson, he will get fired for failing.

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12-25-2011, 09:18 AM
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Maybe we should fire him when we start going down in the standings and need a spark.

Or extend him after(if) we make the playoffs.

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12-25-2011, 12:28 PM
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12-25-2011, 12:45 PM
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This is what I am worried about. The Leafs go 3-0 or 5 of 6 and Burke uses that point to hand out a contract extension.
I guess it only took a 2 game streak for it to happen. For Burke's sake the team better come through

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12-25-2011, 12:58 PM
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Funny, the feeling here has quickly changed from not whether he deserves an extension to now Wilson has to prove he deserved the extension by making the playoffs.

This is a major shift in thinking, he will now be judged solely on wins and losses, meaning Wilson is now more under the gun. He's run out of rope in the excuses dept. Which may not be such a bad thing at all.

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12-25-2011, 03:43 PM
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since he is extended it's safe to close this thread.

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