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12-20-2011, 10:10 PM
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None of which are German though.
No itz Zweedish. Ze accentz sound similar ven I zo zem.

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No itz Zweedish. Ze accentz sound similar ven I zo zem.
Not sure I agree there. There's barely any z:s or z-sounds at all in Swedish, for one. The v/w thing is more spot on.

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Who called the debutante at under 6 minutes? He was at 6:01. Good game for Neuvy, he faced 21 shots. But we blocked 18 shots. Team D seems to be improving. 4 goals at home, our scorers leading the way... a PP goal?



Too bad all games can't be this nice.
I was off by a couple seconds!!!

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12-21-2011, 12:56 AM
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Not sure I agree there. There's barely any z:s or z-sounds at all in Swedish, for one. The v/w thing is more spot on.
All dem euros done sound the same to me. Socialist this and socialist that I tell you what.

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12-21-2011, 01:16 AM
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This game reminded me of our early season winning streak more than any other since the first 7. There were periods of time where Nashville outplayed us. It wasn't a full 60 minute effort. There were warts and not every player had a great game. But we were dangerous anyway, and made the plays we had to make while limiting the egregious errors. We scored on the powerplay and we killed off penalties. Most importantly, the Caps showed intensity and what they were capable of when they performed.

I'm not saying this is the start of a hot streak, but pieces are finally started to resemble what we want them to.

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12-21-2011, 02:02 AM
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Maybe the caps' luck is starting to turn. Four goals, incl. tallies from Semin and Ovechkin. And then panthers' game-tying penalty shot v PHO stops magically on goal line w/o crossing. Love it!!

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12-21-2011, 07:26 AM
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Neuvirth under Boudreau: 3.50 GAA/.876 SV%.
Neuvirth under Dale Hunter: 1.83 GAA/.927 SV%.

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12-21-2011, 07:47 AM
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Neuvirth under Boudreau: 3.50 GAA/.876 SV%.
Neuvirth under Dale Hunter: 1.83 GAA/.927 SV%.
That's motivation + system change + better play (in net)

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12-21-2011, 07:52 AM
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It was a good game to watch being a Cap fan. They came out flying, but I still say the slacked about 10min of that game, so they played a good 50 min which was good to see. Semin had a good game, but we won't see that again till the end of the season, so trade Semin now while is value is at an all-time high this year after this game. I did not like Hunter shortening his bench, but I guess he is playing the guys that he needs too. Hamrlik, Schultz and the 4th line saw very little time, time for the boys to wake up if they want to be on the ice.

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12-21-2011, 07:55 AM
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It was only a matter of time before we had a run of good G play. We have 3 good goalies. I am not sure how much credit Dale gets if any. I questioned Bruce's handling of his G's over the years. The jury is out on Dale, too small a sample size. But if he pulled Nuevy aside and told him, my money is on you, he deserves credit for boosting his confidence.

Looking at the bigger picture, Dale has reinvented how our dmen play defense in 2 weeks. Put training wheels on Sarge and rolled with it. I like how our D rolled last night in largely a 5 man rotation, you didn't notice Sarge missing. Orlov led the way with 3 hits, and never looked a rookie to me. Wideman 4 blocks. Carlson seems stronger in our end. Alzner, well I had envisioned pushing pucks up to Ovi for goals for a few years now. Even the hammer eeked out an assist in 18 minutes, he has looked solid playing man, no? Limit his minutes.

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12-21-2011, 08:07 AM
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It was only a matter of time before we had a run of good G play. We have 3 good goalies. I am not sure how much credit Dale gets if any. I questioned Bruce's handling of his G's over the years. The jury is out on Dale, too small a sample size. But if he pulled Nuevy aside and told him, my money is on you, he deserves credit for boosting his confidence.

Looking at the bigger picture, Dale has reinvented how our dmen play defense in 2 weeks. Put training wheels on Sarge and rolled with it. I like how our D rolled last night in largely a 5 man rotation, you didn't notice Sarge missing. Orlov led the way with 3 hits, and never looked a rookie to me. Wideman 4 blocks. Carlson seems stronger in our end. Alzner, well I had envisioned pushing pucks up to Ovi for goals for a few years now. Even the hammer eeked out an assist, he has looked solid playing man, no?
Even thou i pretty much agree with the points you've made, i still think there is too much standing around our own goal crease for my liking... couple of times last night i noticed Wideman (and obviously 55) trying to battle with forwards near our goal with the sticks and whatnot, that creates traffic and chaos near or in front of our goalie... **** that, if somebody is within your reach take the body, level them, clear the crease... well, baby steps...

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12-21-2011, 08:24 AM
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I have just come to accept modern day players will not clear the crease. At least not in the regular season. With Erskine out of the lineup, I keep a zero expectation bar now, sadly. Its the modern game LeMew wants; don't impede the forwards. But I still think Dmen can really nail a guy in the crease and not get called for it, but they dont risk it.

Our defense is built for mobility and puck moving, more than anything else. A guy like Sarge may soon realize, he needs to do those big slow defensemen things like crease clearing with authority, otherwise he will Yonkmaned. Emingered. Nylandered. I'd almost say, he must be physical, to prove his worth to the new brass. I predict if he lays out someone with authority next game, he will get a second shift.

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12-21-2011, 08:38 AM
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rh, your love for dale is very forgiving is it not? yesterday you wanted to see vokoun and would be pissed if ovechkin was playing LW. neuvirth played his 3rd straight and would seem to be starting at least the next game as well while 8 was a LW again last night.

yet....you are so up beat.

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12-21-2011, 08:41 AM
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I have just come to accept modern day players will not clear the crease. At least not in the regular season. With Erskine out of the lineup, I keep a zero expectation bar now, sadly. Its the modern game LeMew wants; don't impede the forwards. But I still think Dmen can really nail a guy in the crease and not get called for it, but they dont risk it.

Our defense is built for mobility and puck moving, more than anything else. A guy like Sarge may soon realize, he needs to do those big slow defensemen things like crease clearing with authority, otherwise he will Yonkmaned. Emingered. Nylandered. I'd almost say, he must be physical, to prove his worth to the new brass. I predict if he lays out someone with authority next game, he will get a second shift.
I understand what your saying, but it has proven over and over again, you can win in the regular season with 3 lines, BUT not in the playoffs. Yes I liked what Hunter did with limiting minutes, good for regular season, but will not cut it in the playoffs. 4 lines and six D in the playoffs, so something/some players need to be fixed to go deep in the playoffs.

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It's hard not to be upbeat after last night, isn't it? Tex you seem very skeptical of Dale.

Ovi is fine at LW if teams don't keep doubling him. You notice Nashville did not, and he suddenly was the old Ovechkin. They adjusted to him being a 25 goal scorer, and it backfired, and he could have had a few more goals. Ovi in single coverage at LW, even I will know to not beat the drums to move him. That is how he got to be the best player in the world. I would be pissed if he was doubled and got no shots.

I will say this, I still think moving him to RW for a few games over the year is wise. NOT A PERMANENT MOVE. He will be doubled again at LW. Semin sure looked good flying down the LW last night, didn't he? He looked natural even.

I did say I wanted Dale to give Vokoun every chance to be the starter. He turned to Neuvy. I wanted the widely respected top ~15 goalie. I was wrong.

Noles, its too early to worry about rolling 4 lines evenly, we may not even make the playoffs. Dale saw our top lines producing early and stayed on it. It was Knuble night, not prep for the playoffs night. We needed a big win at home for the moose.

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It's hard not to be upbeat after last night, isn't it? Tex you seem very skeptical of Dale.

Ovi is fine at LW if teams don't keep doubling him. You notice Nashville did not, and he suddenly was the old Ovechkin. They adjusted to him being a 25 goal scorer, and it backfired, and he could have had a few more goals. Ovi in single coverage at LW, even I will know to not beat the drums to move him. That is how he got to be the best player in the world. I would be pissed if he was doubled and got no shots.

I will say this, I still think moving him to RW for a few games over the year is wise. NOT A PERMANENT MOVE. He will be doubled again at LW. Semin sure looked good flying down the LW last night, didn't he? He looked natural even.

I did say I wanted Dale to give Vokoun every chance to be the starter. He turned to Neuvy. I wanted the widely respected top ~15 goalie. I was wrong.

Noles, its too early to worry about rolling 4 lines evenly, we may not even make the playoffs. Dale saw our top lines producing early and stayed on it. It was Knuble night, not prep for the playoffs night. We needed a big win at home for the moose.
RH, I just think you read way too much into what dale is doing and/or thinking.

The last three games have been good. The offense is still challenged but seeing 8 and 28 scoring breeds some hope.

Noles, did you check the Preds minutes? Dale has proven to be pretty determined to match lines. If the opposition is rolling 3 lines, Dale has to choose between rolling 4 lines or matching lines. Nashville's 4th line was all at 8 minutes or less.

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I don't think Dale has done much to the goaltending, I think he's fixed the guys in front of the goaltending. The biggest difference between our play under BB and DH is our ability to get the puck out of our own zone. Our breakout is right now far better than anything we saw under Bruce the whole time he was here.

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I have just come to accept modern day players will not clear the crease. At least not in the regular season. With Erskine out of the lineup, I keep a zero expectation bar now, sadly. Its the modern game LeMew wants; don't impede the forwards. But I still think Dmen can really nail a guy in the crease and not get called for it, but they dont risk it.

Our defense is built for mobility and puck moving, more than anything else. A guy like Sarge may soon realize, he needs to do those big slow defensemen things like crease clearing with authority, otherwise he will Yonkmaned. Emingered. Nylandered. I'd almost say, he must be physical, to prove his worth to the new brass. I predict if he lays out someone with authority next game, he will get a second shift.
Agreed again, i just don't think Sarge has it in him, its like asking Semin play Iginlas game...

P.S. but i dont want big and slow, i want Scott Stevens, Konstantinov type of D-man, is it too much to ask?

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12-21-2011, 09:47 AM
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Good game to be at, especially after the last one I attended, the Flyers debacle. Don't have tickets until Boston comes in to town in late January.

Nashville looked horrible, especially on their PP. Fans at the phone booth became somewhat restless during the second period due to a lot of play within the neutral zone plus the 3 PKs back to back for the Caps. Overall strong game by Neuvy and the top 6. Orlov continues to look good. Schultz with minimal ice time and very little of it in the third, he might have had two shifts during the third from what I was seeing, looked like they were double shifting Alzner by pairing him with Carlson and Hamrlik at different times. Just don't see JFS with the team come the TDL.

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I don't think Dale has done much to the goaltending, I think he's fixed the guys in front of the goaltending. The biggest difference between our play under BB and DH is our ability to get the puck out of our own zone. Our breakout is right now far better than anything we saw under Bruce the whole time he was here.
This cannot be emphasized enough. Watching our play at our own blueline last night, I didn't think I was watching the caps.

Green who?

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This cannot be emphasized enough. Watching our play at our own blueline last night, I didn't think I was watching the caps.

Green who?
Of this new Hunter regime...Jim Johnson could very well end up being the best hire of the two.

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Even when the offense has been inept we've been transitioning out so much better. Working together as a team. The wingers still need to read the play better to get to pucks that the D panic smack up boards. But when they're on the same page it's...... Shocking.

The other two big "fixes" have been the lack of blue line turnovers. We had one by semin.... And it's in the net. The other is lack of oddman breaks and reduction in "free" nuetral zone lanes. The d still pinches here and there. And there were times in the game when the forwards all forechecked when they had possession.

But in general when they read the play right in the dzone, we have a breakout, and in the ozone, we either pressure properly or we retreat and clog the nuetral zone.

Just need to get some bounces from the less skilled guys and some pp opportunities.

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Of this new Hunter regime...Jim Johnson could very well end up being the best hire of the two.
That's a fact. And he may not be here long.

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That's a fact. And he may not be here long.
He's just a place holder for Calle Johansson.

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Of this new Hunter regime...Jim Johnson could very well end up being the best hire of the two.
A priceless grimace on Sarge’s face when Comcast showed a close-up of JJ giving him a spirited in-game tutorial on the bench in front of his D dogs!

Cheers to JJ/DFH for immediately yanking him off the ice and smacking his nose with a newspaper when he doesn’t execute the system properly... Either way something will good will come of this.

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