Great game guys, some really exciting hockey. Also I just want to apologize to those of you who listened to the MSG feed and had to listen to Butch Goring. The man bugs every Islanders fan that has to sit there and listen to him. You guys have a good team and are clearly moving in the right direction. Lets hope we meet again in the playoffs some time soon. I think I found a new team in the NHL to root for on the side.
Stole a point tonight. The team (with the exception of Pavs) didn't play good enough to win. Pavs is the reason we got a point. We need to be better for next game.
It sucks that we had to steal a point at home vs. a team below us in the standings. But that's exactly what happened. Pavelec plays below par and Isles convert some chances, and it could have easily been 6-2.
Bogo and Enstrom were both brutal. Kane was invisible. Antro looked out of sync for most of the game. There was much more 'bad Buff' than 'good Buff'. Burmi is no Little. I could go on and on, point is I don't even feel that bad about not grabbing two points; a SOL is as much as that effort deserved. I'm more concerned than anything, Jets have been really sketchy the last 3 games. I hope Noel can get things straightened out, and fast.
It sucks that we had to steal a point at home vs. a team below us in the standings. But that's exactly what happened. Pavelec plays below par and Isles convert some chances, and it could have easily been 6-2.
Bogo and Enstrom were both brutal. Kane was invisible. Antro looked out of sync for most of the game. There was much more 'bad Buff' than 'good Buff'. Burmi is no Little. I could go on and on, point is I don't even feel that bad about not grabbing two points; a SOL is as much as that effort deserved. I'm more concerned than anything, Jets have been really sketchy the last 3 games. I hope Noel can get things straightened out, and fast.
For the most part I agree. As I mentioned before I especially think they missed Little. He just seems to generate the most opportunities and he does the job defensively. I get to see the Habs live for the first time Thursday (luck of the draw on the home opener), man it would be nice to see a complete effort.
Great game guys, some really exciting hockey. Also I just want to apologize to those of you who listened to the MSG feed and had to listen to Butch Goring. The man bugs every Islanders fan that has to sit there and listen to him. You guys have a good team and are clearly moving in the right direction. Lets hope we meet again in the playoffs some time soon. I think I found a new team in the NHL to root for on the side.
Playoffs! You wanna talk about playoffs?!? kidding, thanks man.
I really have a hard time believing that you've watched him play for years and can say these things. Many, many people put him in the top-15 in the NHL, but they must be idiots, right?
Not from what I've been reading or witnessing live in person.
Wheeler should not have gone at all. The guy has 3 goals on the season and has shown that he cant finish multiple times this year.
I can see Wellwood getting a chance since he had a good game but put him first in the shootout.
Burmi should have been the second shooter. He has the skills to undress a goalie.
Also I wouldn't have minded Stapleton getting a shot in the shootout. He has some decent hands and a good shot when he is forced to use it.
I would have Slater in the SO ahead of Wheeler who hasn't impressed the past couple of games. The Jets with almost the roster they had at the start of the season are again playing their worst hockey. With the AHL defenceman and AHL scrubs up front they seemed to play a lot better against even top tier teams.
If Enstrom can win the race for the puck in his own end he usually can make a good play with it or rush it effectively, it's when he has to battle for it in his own end where he is mostly over-matched and out muscled.
Some of you guys also agree that Buff-Enstrom is not a good pairing for either player.
Buff-Oduya and Enstrom-Hainsey would probably work better.
I honestly can't believe you've watched Toby for years, anyone who has will tell you otherwise. Like Thrasher344 said he is in most top 15 lists, an article by Yahoo Sports has as much credibility as anything on Sportsnet.
He is just coming back from a broken collarbone, evidently many people don't know that just because you play in the NHL doesn't mean you can automatically come right back and play as well as you did before you went down. It takes time.
The Enstrom detractors really need to take it back a notch, he has received so much unjustified hate that even myself who usually tries to steer away from controversy () has to say something.
I honestly can't believe you've watched Toby for years, anyone who has will tell you otherwise. Like Thrasher344 said he is in most top 15 lists, an article by Yahoo Sports has as much credibility as anything on Sportsnet.
He is just coming back from a broken collarbone, evidently many people don't know that just because you play in the NHL doesn't mean you can automatically come right back and play as well as you did before you went down. It takes time.
The Enstrom detractors really need to take it back a notch, he has received so much unjustified hate that even myself who usually tries to steer away from controversy () has to say something.
To be fair to the Enstrom detractors he wasn't playing well before he got hurt, he was constantly muscled off the puck in his own end. You Enstrom fans do realize other teams have him figured out now and overwhelm him in his own end which starts him running around a bit too much.
We haven't seen him play one game in a Jet's uniform that leads us to believe he is even a top 25 D-man. Bogo is approaching that.
To Enstrom's credit he moves the puck brilliantly and should eventually make a huge difference on the PP.
I honestly can't believe you've watched Toby for years, anyone who has will tell you otherwise. Like Thrasher344 said he is in most top 15 lists, an article by Yahoo Sports has as much credibility as anything on Sportsnet.
He is just coming back from a broken collarbone, evidently many people don't know that just because you play in the NHL doesn't mean you can automatically come right back and play as well as you did before you went down. It takes time.
The Enstrom detractors really need to take it back a notch, he has received so much unjustified hate that even myself who usually tries to steer away from controversy () has to say something.
At least from my point of view, it's certainly not hate. I want to love all the Jets. I would just like to see a hint of that top 15 defenceman that many seem to claim.
I usually sit at the top of section 304 but today I snagged a couple of great seats in 105, row 6, right behind the penalty box across from the jets tunnel. I couldn't believe how dead that section is. Absolutely lifeless.
You guys are right, the upper bowl is rowdy. I also think it is louder up there by far. Me and my GF always clap to every song (russian sounding song, guitar songs, etc..) and people were actually giving us dirty looks. Up in 304 everyone is into these songs. I also noticed a lot less double beers. In fact I'd say 105 drinks about 10-15% as much as 304. Everyone comes back with double beers in 304!
We had two older people beside us and they actually sat down half way through the Canadian anthem! Then they wouldn't get up for people to shuffle through, and they were two seats over from the isle. The one guy was hunting and pecking on his blackberry during the freaking overtime when the crowd would do the "ohhhhh... ahhh..." when a shot would be on net. The other guy was real old and you can't really blame him, but he kept giving my GF dirty looks for getting into chants, clapping, etc..
The only positive thing I can say about that section is there were a couple of super drunk dudes that actually started the wave just before the shootout.
Other than that I wish I just sat in 304. Much better experience overall, and I don't really like being so close to the ice. Not only that most of the play was only visible through two sets of glass(the penalty box). The distortion through the glass is immense.
Another thing the first 6 rows are temporary seats. I didn't know this. Any time there's people going up and down the stairs you start bouncing in your seat a bit. It's really annoying.
Islanders looked solid in their own zone and Jets had no answer. I think our two goals were fortunate.
Terrible choices for our shootout guys? I'm on the Wheeler bandwagon and I like Wellwood, but these two are notorious for overhandling the puck and for late release/lack of scoring instinct.
Does the loss of Little really hurt us so bad? Every line looked ineffective. Kane had no support. Burmi looked ordinary. Lack of chemistry on all lines. This team needs stability, I wonder if it will ever come with the constant parade to the injury list.
why is Pavs so bad at shootouts? I agree with most we should start considering Mason for shootouts
Is it maybe because he's a bit quick to commit? I haven't seen him do as many as other folks here who have watched him longer, so I'll defer to other expertise, but from what I've seen seems like he might buy into the shot too soon.
why is Pavs so bad at shootouts? I agree with most we should start considering Mason for shootouts
Mason doesn't get enough respect. At the Ana game the guy beside me groaned, 'Why isn't Pavelec in?'. Mason is solid, is 4-2 and .917. Don't know why he is maligned. I feel he could challenge as the starter, and could be if he was on another team.
Mason doesn't get enough respect. At the Ana game the guy beside me groaned, 'Why isn't Pavelec in?'. Mason is solid, is 4-2 and .917. Don't know why he is maligned. I feel he could challenge as the starter, and could be if he was on another team.
Teams all seem to know they can beat Pavs glove side high and do in the shoot-outs.
I usually sit at the top of section 304 but today I snagged a couple of great seats in 105, row 6, right behind the penalty box across from the jets tunnel. I couldn't believe how dead that section is. Absolutely lifeless.
You guys are right, the upper bowl is rowdy. I also think it is louder up there by far. Me and my GF always clap to every song (russian sounding song, guitar songs, etc..) and people were actually giving us dirty looks. Up in 304 everyone is into these songs. I also noticed a lot less double beers. In fact I'd say 105 drinks about 10-15% as much as 304. Everyone comes back with double beers in 304!
We had two older people beside us and they actually sat down half way through the Canadian anthem! Then they wouldn't get up for people to shuffle through, and they were two seats over from the isle. The one guy was hunting and pecking on his blackberry during the freaking overtime when the crowd would do the "ohhhhh... ahhh..." when a shot would be on net. The other guy was real old and you can't really blame him, but he kept giving my GF dirty looks for getting into chants, clapping, etc..
The only positive thing I can say about that section is there were a couple of super drunk dudes that actually started the wave just before the shootout.
Other than that I wish I just sat in 304. Much better experience overall, and I don't really like being so close to the ice. Not only that most of the play was only visible through two sets of glass(the penalty box). The distortion through the glass is immense.
Another thing the first 6 rows are temporary seats. I didn't know this. Any time there's people going up and down the stairs you start bouncing in your seat a bit. It's really annoying.
That is very near, if not in the Players wives/family section
Crap coverage in their own end tonite. I got sick of seeing the puck fired around the boards to no one...wingers were weak, and the defense consistently were panicking in their own end. Noel beeatch them out for exactly this play and yet they consistently allowed the opposition defense to retrieve the puck and make a play in our end. Geez Buff, the three foot pass to the front of the net is not going to work out.
Pavs earned the point - without him this game was over.
Pavelec sinks himself way too deep in the net on shootouts and breakaways. It's like he's still moving backwards when the shot is taken or the shooter makes a move on a deke. At some point, you have to stand your ground and let the shooter make his move.
I don't know folks I think the Islanders looked really good tonight and are getting zero love.
We had one line going tonight that was a threat to score and that was Ladd, Antro, and Wellwood. With two goals by our offense It's hard to get a win. Without Little our first line has zero chemistry and they all seemed to be trying to get it done by themselves. It's tough to have instant chemistry so hurry back Brian we could use you.
I thought Ladd had one of his better games in a while.
Our D are a bit rusty but they will be fine guys how many man games did they miss......it will take a few games to gel.
at this point in time Fehr is playing worse than the AHL guys and I guess he just has to play through it to get into game shape but it is painful to watch how slow he is and how bad he is at puck battles. Thor and Stapleton actually played Ok I thought but Eric is looking really rusty
Pavs saved our a55 and it was needed becuase a red hot road team outplayed us tonight.
If you were to ask me going into tonight if I woukd be happy with one point I would have said no, after watching the game I am not as mad and think we stole a point. now let's Get some revenge for that opening day loss this Thursday and beat those Habs
Terrible choices for our shootout guys? I'm on the Wheeler bandwagon and I like Wellwood, but these two are notorious for overhandling the puck and for late release/lack of scoring instinct.
Not that I want to keep commenting on it, but Wellwood and Wheeler are fine shoot-out choices. The most experience on our team with shoot-outs, and very solid career percentages -- for instance, just comparing to the Caps (since they're right here on the page) Welly has the exact same career shoot-out percentage as Semin and Backstrom (Wheeler is a little bit better), and slightly higher than Ovechkin, and they're the leading shoot-out guys with any significant degree of NHL shoot-out shots on the Caps.
I realize there's other stuff that goes into it than numbers, but I'm just surprised everyone thinks Wellwood is such a terrible shoot-out choice. He has proven he's a solid shoot-out guy, and we don't have many of those on this team. In the absence of a real specialist, you can and should expect to see him in most shoot-outs.
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