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09-28-2004, 03:06 AM
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Best undrafted player of all time...

...that isn't named Wayne Gretzky.

My vote would either go to Dino Ciccarelli or Ed Belfour, but I could be forgetting a few people. Martin St. Louis could be up there in a few years too.

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09-28-2004, 03:38 AM
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The award goes to: Adam Oates
Runners-up: Dino Ciccarelli, Ed Belfour

Honourable Mention: Joe Mullen, Tim Kerr, Curtis Joseph, Martin St. Louis.

Mention: John Madden, Mike Keane, Steve Thomas, Brian Rafalski


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BEST UNDRAFTED PLAYERS (Birth year >=1946)

"LW"

Player Name -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- PTS
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Thomas Steve -- 1984-85 -- 2002-03 -- 1191 -- 911
Courtnall Geoff -- 1983-84 -- 1999-00 -- 1048 -- 799
Lonsberry Ross -- 1966-67 -- 1980-81 -- 968 -- 565
Marcotte Don -- 1965-66 -- 1981-82 -- 868 -- 484
Smail Doug -- 1980-81 -- 1992-93 -- 845 -- 459

Pettersson Jorgen -- 1980-81 -- 1985-86 -- 435 -- 366
Maclellan Brian -- 1982-83 -- 1991-92 -- 606 -- 413
Beers Ed -- 1981-82 -- 1985-86 -- 250 -- 210
Wood Randy -- 1986-87 -- 1996-97 -- 741 -- 334
Hicke Ernie -- 1970-71 -- 1977-78 -- 520 -- 272
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Brashear Donald -- 1993-94 -- 2002-03 -- 629 -- 157
Fedotenko Ruslan -- 2000-01 -- 2002-03 -- 228 -- 94
Dupuis Pascal -- 2000-01 -- 2002-03 -- 160 -- 76
.
Lambert Denny - act
Messier Eric - act
Krog Jason - act
Kariya Steve - act
Varlamov Sergei - act




"C"

Player Name -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- PTS
--------------------------------------------------------
Gretzky Wayne -- 1979-80 -- 1998-99 -- 1487 -- 2857
Stastny Peter -- 1980-81 -- 1994-95 -- 977 -- 1239
Oates Adam -- 1985-86 -- 2002-03 -- 1277 -- 1402
Ridley Mike -- 1985-86 -- 1996-97 -- 866 -- 758
Unger Garry -- 1967-68 -- 1982-83 -- 1105 -- 804

Kisio Kelly -- 1982-83 -- 1994-95 -- 761 -- 658
Adams Greg -- 1984-85 -- 2000-01 -- 1056 -- 743
Tkaczuk Walt -- 1967-68 -- 1980-81 -- 945 -- 678
Poulin Dave -- 1982-83 -- 1994-95 -- 724 -- 530
Charron Guy -- 1969-70 -- 1980-81 -- 734 -- 530
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St.Louis Martin -- 1998-99 -- 2002-03 -- 282 -- 165
Reinprecht Steve -- 1999-00 -- 2002-03 -- 225 -- 133
White Todd -- 1997-98 -- 2002-03 -- 223 -- 130
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Belanger Jesse - act
Halpern Jeff - act
Madden John - act



"RW"

Player Name -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- PTS
----------------------------------------------------------
Ciccarelli Dino -- 1980-81 -- 1998-99 -- 1232 -- 1200
Mullen Joe -- 1979-80 -- 1996-97 -- 1062 -- 1063
Kerr Tim -- 1980-81 -- 1992-93 -- 655 -- 674
Robert Rene -- 1970-71 -- 1981-82 -- 744 -- 702

Redmond Mickey -- 1967-68 -- 1975-76 -- 538 -- 428
Hedberg Anders -- 1978-79 -- 1984-85 -- 465 -- 397
Sinisalo Ilkka -- 1981-82 -- 1991-92 -- 582 -- 426
Fairbairn Bill -- 1968-69 -- 1978-79 -- 658 -- 423
Stastny Marian -- 1981-82 -- 1985-86 -- 322 -- 294
Frycer Miroslav -- 1981-82 -- 1988-89 -- 415 -- 330
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Keane Mike -- 1988-89 -- 2002-03 -- 1097 -- 453
Johnson Mike -- 1996-97 -- 2002-03 -- 469 -- 275
Bartecko Lubos -- 1998-99 -- 2002-03 -- 257 -- 111
Odgers Jeff -- 1991-92 -- 2002-03 -- 821 -- 145




"DEF"

Player Name -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- PTS
----------------------------------------------------------
Orr Bobby -- 1966-67 -- 1978-79 -- 657 -- 915
Salming Borje -- 1973-74 -- 1989-90 -- 1148 -- 787
Duchesne Steve -- 1986-87 -- 2001-02 -- 1113 -- 752
Lapointe Guy -- 1968-69 -- 1983-84 -- 884 -- 622
Korab Jerry -- 1970-71 -- 1984-85 -- 975 -- 455
Huddy Charlie -- 1980-81 -- 1996-97 -- 1017 -- 453
Ledyard Grant -- 1984-85 -- 2001-02 -- 1028 -- 366
Mcsorley Marty -- 1983-84 -- 1999-00 -- 961 -- 359
Macoun Jamie -- 1982-83 -- 1998-99 -- 1128 -- 358

Potvin Jean -- 1970-71 -- 1980-81 -- 613 -- 287
Maciver Norm -- 1986-87 -- 1997-98 -- 500 -- 285
Murdoch Bob J. -- 1970-71 -- 1981-82 -- 757 -- 278
Manery Randy -- 1970-71 -- 1979-80 -- 582 -- 256
Milbury Mike -- 1975-76 -- 1986-87 -- 754 -- 238
Tinordi Mark -- 1987-88 -- 1998-99 -- 663 -- 200
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Lefebvre Sylvain -- 1989-90 -- 2002-03 -- 945 -- 184
Rafalski Brian -- 1999-00 -- 2002-03 -- 308 -- 171
Klemm Jon -- 1991-92 -- 2002-03 -- 560 -- 121
Boyle Dan -- 1998-99 -- 2002-03 -- 247 -- 112
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Delmore Andy - act
Devries Greg - act
Simpson Todd - act


"GOALIE"

GOALIE NAME -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- WIN
------------------------------------------------------------
Belfour Ed -- 1988-89 -- 2002-03 -- 797 -- 401
Joseph Curtis -- 1989-90 -- 2002-03 -- 767 -- 380

Resch Glenn -- 1973-74 -- 1986-87 -- 571 -- 231
Casey Jon -- 1983-84 -- 1996-97 -- 425 -- 170
Healy Glenn -- 1985-86 -- 2000-01 -- 437 -- 166
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Roloson Dwayne - act
Hodson Kevin - act
Skudra Peter -act
Brathwaite Fred - act


Numbers without last season

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Thanks for the list. I need to make some additions to:
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The award goes to: Adam Oates
Runners-up: Dino Ciccarelli, Ed Belfour

Honourable Mention: Joe Mullen, Tim Kerr, Curtis Joseph, Martin St. Louis.

Mention: John Madden, Mike Keane, Steve Thomas, Brian Rafalski
Move over Oates. Bobby Orr and Peter Stastny deserve top billing (why wasn't Orr drafted? Injury?; and Stastny was an early European before a draft procedure was set up for them). Oates was the diamond in the rough.


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orr was signed to a bruins contract aged 14...

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Gordie Howe was signed as a FA after a year in the USHL.

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orr was signed to a bruins contract aged 14...

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Gordie Howe was signed as a FA after a year in the USHL.
The NHL Entry Draft was first held in 1963. Bobby Orr was 14 in 1962.

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Bobby Orr not even close !

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The NHL Entry Draft was first held in 1963. Bobby Orr was 14 in 1962.
I'm pretty sure it was 68 or 69

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June 5, 1963 at the Queen Elizabeth Hotel in Montreal.

Here is a link to the 1963 Page:
Main Page
1963 Quick Facts Page

And the frontpage, great site:
HockeyDraftCentral.com

Also, here is the draft page at the Internet Hockey Database. It allows for selections by season or team.

From the Internet Hockey Database,
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1963. All non-sponsored players 17 and older are eligible
1965. The eligibility age is raised to 18 years old.
Bobby Orr was sponsored. Had he not been sponsored, he would not have been eligible for the NHL Draft until 1966. Boston did have the first overall pick in 1966, and they chose Barry Gibbs.

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Sidney Crosby


I think by undrafted, he means Martin St. Louis style - was eligible for the draft, entered, but was not selected. Am I wrong?

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