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12-21-2011, 09:45 AM
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Whenever Myers returns what should the defense look like?

For starters I would love to keep McNabb in over Grags or Weber.

As for pairings....


Regehr/Sekera ---> I would like to see together as the shutdown pairing. They've been good together.

After that I'm leaning towards

Leo/Hoff ----> they've been solid together in the past


McNabb/Myers --> McNabb's steady defensive play would allow Myers to gallop into the rush as much as possible.

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12-21-2011, 09:52 AM
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I agree that you keep McNabb in the lineup, albeit in a 3rd pairing role. I think you pick between Grags and Weber for the #7, and trade the other; Brennan is a capable #8, and I'm comfortable with Finley/Schiestel at the #9. When Myers returns I'd like to give Regehr-Myers one more whirl, but change it up if it's not working:

Regehr-Myers
Sekera-Ehrhoff
McNabb-Leopold
x Weber/Grags

If Regehr-Myers doesn't work, I'd try JJ's pairings.

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12-21-2011, 09:59 AM
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Regehr-Myers
Sekera-Ehrhoff
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Regehr-Myers
Sekera-Ehrhoff
McNabb-Leopold
agreed although I do like the idea of McNabb-Ehrhoff and McNabb-Myers (They would be towers on the blue line)

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Regehr-Myers
Sekera-Ehrhoff
Leopold-McNabb

Pick one of Gragnani or Weber, ship the other out. Given the GF/GA and specialist duties, combined with a league minimum contract, Gragnani would probably be the retained player.

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I love the idea of Sekera/Regehr. Leopold/Ehrhoff has been solid, despite a couple of miscues a game. I like the idea of McNabb/Myers in the future...but I just can't get on board right now.

Their size/physicality would be formidable, but I'm just not sure McNabb is ready for 20+ minutes a game regularly. Based on his recent benching, I assume Ruff would agree.

I think we're looking at:

Regehr/Myers
Leopold/Ehrhoff
Sekera/Gragnani


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12-21-2011, 10:18 AM
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For starters I would love to keep McNabb in over Grags or Weber.

As for pairings....


Regehr/Sekera ---> I would like to see together as the shutdown pairing. They've been good together.

After that I'm leaning towards

Leo/Hoff ----> they've been solid together in the past


McNabb/Myers --> McNabb's steady defensive play would allow Myers to gallop into the rush as much as possible.
I would go with the defense pairings you have. They would be very good, very physical (In some cases), and add a scoring touch (Theoretically). Plus, it keeps Weber and MAG off the ice...

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I love the idea of Sekera/Regehr. Leopold/Ehrhoff has been solid, despite a couple of miscues a game. I like the idea of McNabb/Myers in the future...but I just can't get on board right now.

Their size/physicality would be formidable, but I'm just not sure McNabb is ready for 20+ minutes a game regularly. Based on his recent benching, I assume Ruff would agree.

I think we're looking at:

Regehr/Myers
Leopold/Ehrhoff
Sekera/Gragnani

He wouldn't have to play that much. He would just be with Myers at ES. Special teams would not be on the menu putting his ice time around 16-17mins at ES. Not sure what you mean by his benching. He played 17:36 last night and only had stilted ice time when they dressed 7 dmen.

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12-21-2011, 10:23 AM
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He wouldn't have to play that much. He would just be with Myers at ES. Special teams would not be on the menu putting his ice time around 16-17mins at ES.
Good point, kind of forgot about special teams play.

While McNabb has been a pleasant surprise, does anyone else feel that we should bring him along slowly? I think he's a better option than Grags and Weber, but is his long-term development really benefiting by showing him the big leagues already?

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Good point, kind of forgot about special teams play.

While McNabb has been a pleasant surprise, does anyone else feel that we should bring him along slowly? I think he's a better option than Grags and Weber, but is his long-term development really benefiting by showing him the big leagues already?
Its hard to say. A solid argument could be made for either approach.

But I would say that being the #6 on this team is a pretty low pressure way to ease him into the NHL. He also seems fairly calm for such a young kid. Reminds me of Myers a bit in that respect.

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Myers-Sekera
Regher-Leopold
Ehrhoff-McNabb

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I like JJ's pairings for now. Regehr-Sekera is playing too good to break them up right now.

Regehr-Sekera
McNabb-Myers
Leopold-Ehrhoff

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I love the idea of Sekera/Regehr. Leopold/Ehrhoff has been solid, despite a couple of miscues a game. I like the idea of McNabb/Myers in the future...but I just can't get on board right now.

Their size/physicality would be formidable, but I'm just not sure McNabb is ready for 20+ minutes a game regularly. Based on his recent benching, I assume Ruff would agree.

I think we're looking at:

Regehr/Myers
Leopold/Ehrhoff
Sekera/Gragnani

Am I the only one who finds Leopold/Ehrhoff a complete disaster? It seems to me everytime they are paired together they get trapped in their zone until they give up a goal or somehow get a whistle.

I'm not impressed with Leopold as a whole right now and wouldn't mind if he was dealt (along with Gragnani, like everyone else). If not, then pair him with Reghyr as he seems to cover well for him.

I'd like to see:

Regehr/Leopold
Sekera/McNabb
Myers/Ehrhoff

Weber to replace McNabb if he starts to struggle.

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If Regehr-Myers doesn't work, I'd try JJ's pairings.
This is where I stand. Keep McNabb in, no question, and if Regehr/Myers doesn't work as a pair or as part of the unit's proper composition overall, I'd put Brayden and Myers together.

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"Josh's father and jull's husband", I think you should make a sidethread asking whether or not people will be pissed when McNabb inevitably gets sent down.

We know it's going to happen because it's the easiest thing. I hate every second of the thought of sending him back down, but will people be as pissed as me? Or will they be understanding? "give him big time in the AHL and let him grow "

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Whenever Myers returns what should the defense look like?

In a word, "better".

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Regehr-Myers
Sekera-Ehrhoff
McNabb-Leopold
Vote for this !!

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I'd go with:

Regehr - Sekera
Myers - McNabb
Ehrhoff - Leo

Give The Hoff 1st PP time.

And utilize Regehr and Sekera defensively.
Their solid play (all season and lately) has been somewhat unnoticed with all the troubles the team has gone through lately.

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What I think they SHOULD look like:

Regehr/Ehrhoff
McNabb/Myers
Sekera/Leopold


What they will ACTUALLY look like:

Regehr/Myers
Ehrhoff/Leopold
Sekera/Gragnani
Weber


Sadly they will send McNabb back down when myers comes back...

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Regehr-Myers
Leopold-Ehrhoff
Sekera-Weber / McNabb

Send Gragnani to Rochester - if he gets claimed on waivers, so be it.

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Regehr-Myers
Leopold-Ehrhoff
Sekera-Weber / McNabb

Send Gragnani to Rochester - if he gets claimed on waivers, so be it.
Only issue with that, that I can see is that McNabb costs the Sabres $350k more then Gragnani. Would probably have to ship Weber out if you are going to make a D move.

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Only issue with that, that I can see is that McNabb costs the Sabres $350k more then Gragnani. Would probably have to ship Weber out if you are going to make a D move.
True - but, if the Sabres acknowledge that they're not ready yet to be a serious contender this season and also recognize that they have made long-term commitments to two offensive-minded defensemen in Myers and Ehrhoff, then they should be willing to deal either Leopold or Sekera. That would allow both Weber and McNabb to stay in the top 6, complementing Regehr as physical, defensive-minded guys and providing a 50/50 balance of offensive and defensive blueliners. I know Ruff likes the mobile types to join the rush but he also has praised the toughness and physicality that McNabb brings.

Gragnani is and will always be no better than a spare part IMO - if the Sabres keep him like they did Paetsch as insurance when injuries hit or when the PP needs a new face on it, that's fine. He is not a top 6 NHL defenseman however.

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If it comes to it, I'd like to see McNabb getting some reps on the 2nd PP unit. If they want to round out that part of his game, experience would be key. Here, or in Rochester, it's part of his game they need to bring forth.

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If it comes to it, I'd like to see McNabb getting some reps on the 2nd PP unit. If they want to round out that part of his game, experience would be key. Here, or in Rochester, it's part of his game they need to bring forth.
Did McNabb play any PP time in juniors or in Rochester before his recall?

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