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01-11-2012, 07:30 PM
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So, Michael Cammalleri told to the Montreal media today: "We play like losers"

Now, I'm wondering if he will finish the season in Montreal. It will be hard for the Habs to trade him considering his salary.

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01-11-2012, 07:34 PM
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So, Michael Cammalleri told to the Montreal media today: "We play like losers"

Now, I'm wondering if he will finish the season in Montreal. It will be hard for the Habs to trade him considering his salary.
Sounds like he's unhappy with his ice time too. Wouldn't be surprised to see him moved before the trade deadline.

Sounds like Burke in Toronto is chomping at the bit to trade for anybody.

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01-11-2012, 07:44 PM
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His actual salary: 6M

His salary for the next 2 seasons: 7M

Who'd be really interested in him?

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01-11-2012, 08:17 PM
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Cammalleri is a very gifted scoring forward with great speed. He can really break a game open, too. $6 might be a skosh high, but I don't think he's untradeable by any means. Hell, I wouldn't complain if the Wild made a move for him, considering that his stock is probably pretty low with GMPG right now.

Also, I can't tell from that comment if he was really complaining, or if he was just trying to fire up his teammates.

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01-11-2012, 08:23 PM
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http://www.cyberpresse.ca/sports/hoc...1_accueil_POS1

Just translate the article, enjoy.

Also, he's having a terrible season so far. Don't think he needed to say that.

EDIT: And no way the Wild would make a trade for him...

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01-11-2012, 08:27 PM
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01-11-2012, 08:29 PM
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http://www.cyberpresse.ca/sports/hoc...1_accueil_POS1

Just translate the article, enjoy.

Also, he's having a terrible season so far. Don't think he needed to say that.

EDIT: And no way the Wild would make a trade for him...
Didn't mean to suggest that I thought there was any way that the Wild would trade for him. Just that I think he's a good enough player that I'd support GMCF if he decided to trade for him.

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Heatley has a NMC.

Don't see it happening.

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01-11-2012, 08:33 PM
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Heatley has a NMC.

Don't see it happening.
Heatley doesn't have an NMC; he just got to name 10 teams he couldn't be traded to. I could be wrong, because I have no idea what's going on in the guy's head, but my guess isn't that he'd single out MTL as a place he wouldn't want to play.

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01-11-2012, 08:36 PM
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Heatley doesn't have an NMC; he just got to name 10 teams he couldn't be traded to. I could be wrong, because I have no idea what's going on in the guy's head, but my guess isn't that he'd single out MTL as a place he wouldn't want to play.
Yes he does.

Also, I don't think Heatley would like to play in Montreal. Anyways, I see no point doing such a trade like this.

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01-11-2012, 08:41 PM
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Yes he does.

Also, I don't think Heatley would like to play in Montreal. Anyways, I see no point doing such a trade like this.
Like I said, the terms of that NMC are that he had to veto 10 teams ahead of time. That's what Fletch said when they traded for him over the summer––Minnesota wasn't on the list.

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01-11-2012, 08:45 PM
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Good to know.

From what I know on having an NMC, Heatley can't be traded, waived, or sent down to the minors without his approval.

So, why would he want to leave without finishing his first season with the Wild? I know it's pure hypothetical but still.


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01-11-2012, 08:59 PM
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was more of a joke, iirc healtys cap is greater then money owed to him where as in cammi's case its reverse, i don't see Wild being in dire cap situation where they have to have the extra 1mil cap.

also would like to point out i'm happy with heater, he may not be putting up all star numbers but he has played a complete game and chips in on both ends of the ice, if he was terrible in our zone i'd be saying a different beat.

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Good to know.

From what I know on having an NMC, Heatley can't be traded, waived, or sent down to the minors without his approval.

So, why would he want to leave without finishing his first season with the Wild? I know it's pure hypothetical but still.

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was more of a joke, iirc healtys cap is greater then money owed to him where as in cammi's case its reverse, i don't see Wild being in dire cap situation where they have to have the extra 1mil cap.

also would like to point out i'm happy with heater, he may not be putting up all star numbers but he has played a complete game and chips in on both ends of the ice, if he was terrible in our zone i'd be saying a different beat.
Yeah, I don't think they actually will or should trade Heatley by any means! I just mean that, unless he specified Montreal as one of his ten vetoed teams, the Wild would have the option to.

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01-11-2012, 10:33 PM
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01-12-2012, 12:01 AM
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01-12-2012, 12:44 AM
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Like I said, the terms of that NMC are that he had to veto 10 teams ahead of time. That's what Fletch said when they traded for him over the summer––Minnesota wasn't on the list.
No Movement Clauses (NMC) don't have "terms." They're absolute. The player cannot be traded, waived, or otherwise transacted without the player's consent.

Modified No Trade Clauses (NTC) can be of the sort you're mentioning. I highly doubt Fletcher said that about him because it's simply not true unless all the reporting on his contract is incorrect.

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No, what is being said is true. His NMC in terms of trades, he had to list teams he did not want to be traded to. Minnesota was not on the list, thus he was eligible to be traded here.

As seen here...

According to Canada's The Sports Network, Heatley, as part of a limited no-trade clause, had to list 10 teams to which he would veto a trade. Minnesota was not on the list that was submitted before July 1.

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01-12-2012, 01:25 AM
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No Movement Clauses (NMC) don't have "terms." They're absolute. The player cannot be traded, waived, or otherwise transacted without the player's consent.

Modified No Trade Clauses (NTC) can be of the sort you're mentioning. I highly doubt Fletcher said that about him because it's simply not true unless all the reporting on his contract is incorrect.
In that case, Heatley doesn't have an NMC and Fel's source got it wrong. I believe I remember reading that he had a full NMC before July 1, at which point it became a Modified NTC and he had to submit that list––that's why he wasn't part of the Burns/Setoguchi-Coyle package on draft day. CapGeek probably just put the terms in when he signed the contract and never updated them once it expired.

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01-12-2012, 07:15 AM
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Capgeek is a legit source so I'd really be surprised if it's false.

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Capgeek is a legit source so I'd really be surprised if it's false.
CapGeek is wrong from time to time. If TSN is correct with what Talon posted, it was likely as llama is saying, and originally a NMC that became a Modified NTC this season. I know there's a couple players who have NMC/NTC that behave like that.

The exact details on NTCs and NMCs are often kept quiet. For example, no one outside of the organization seems to know the details of Cullen's Modified NTC, and CapGeek doesn't even list that Backstrom has one. They also still list Zid's NMC/NTC even though it expired on 1/1/12. I believe the Zid NTC was a straight no trades unless approved, but did not have the waiver protection a NMC provides. It only extended for the first half of his contract, so it ended 1/1/12.

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Capgeek is a legit source so I'd really be surprised if it's false.
Capgeek is accurate with stuff that's been done since the site launched but they've missed a few things from before. Case in point was Havlat's NMC/NTC combo, which never appeared while he was a member of the Wild.

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It's possible he has a NMC, but wanted out, and instead of being traded to just anybody, he was given an option to exclude 10 teams.

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It's possible he has a NMC, but wanted out, and instead of being traded to just anybody, he was given an option to exclude 10 teams.
That doesn't explain why they had to wait until July 1 for it to take effect though.

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It's possible he has a NMC, but wanted out, and instead of being traded to just anybody, he was given an option to exclude 10 teams.
As was mentioned, Heatley was required to list 10 teams he didn't want to go to prior to July 1. That isn't being asked, that's a contractual clause.

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