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06-07-2012, 01:54 PM
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Radu played his entire jr career in Quebec, he knows what it is .

Secondly , Andrei didn't want to leave Montreal ....

Third Gauthier /Gainey gone ...
Is anyone else sick of hearing this?

Radulov played 2 years of Junior in Québec City. He didn't marry a girl from here, buy a house here and he sure didn't come back to visit.

So why do people assume he has any inkling to play for the Habs, when his only relationship was with the Remparts, and this over half a decade ago?

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06-07-2012, 01:55 PM
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Semin costs no assets.

Would you prefer Semin plus 2013 1st vs Radulov and no 2013 1st(I figure taht's about the cost of getting his rights).
Eh, Radulov won't be UFA?

Edit : Regardless of Radulov, I wouldn't make an offer to Semin.

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06-07-2012, 02:17 PM
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top 3 spots where Radu could land

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2012/...here_to_trade/

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But according to a Fox Sports Tennessee report, Poile has reportedly granted Radulov and his agent, Jay Grossman, the right to negotiate a contract with other teams -- which could be a signal that Radulov will be staying in the NHL after all.

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The Canadiens organization needs a spark of some sort. Recently-hired GM Marc Bergevin will probably look to make a splash to give a boost to a Canadiens team that was stale under the direction of Pierre Gauthier and Jacques Martin.

Radulov played his junior hockey with the Quebec Remparts and would feed off of the pressure and glamour of being a star in a hockey-centric market. Living in a much smaller fishbowl environment could work to his disadvantage off the ice, but Radulov would give the Canadiens some sizzle that they desperately need up front.

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06-07-2012, 02:44 PM
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Pacioretty-Plekanec-Radulov
Bourque-Desharnais-Cole
Moen-Eller-Gionta
Geoffrion-White-Staubitz

I can dig it. No more excuses about linemates for Pleks either.

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06-07-2012, 02:55 PM
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Pacioretty-Plekanec-Radulov
Bourque-Desharnais-Cole
Moen-Eller-Gionta
Geoffrion-White-Staubitz

I can dig it. No more excuses about linemates for Pleks either.
Other than the fact that there's absolutely no reason to split Paciorety and Desharnais, that makes sense.

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06-07-2012, 03:07 PM
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Pacioretty-Plekanec-Radulov
Bourque-Desharnais-Cole
Moen-Eller-Gionta
Geoffrion-White-Staubitz

I can dig it. No more excuses about linemates for Pleks either.
In that scenario, Bourque would be on the 3rd line not Gionta.

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06-07-2012, 03:09 PM
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Other than the fact that there's absolutely no reason to split Paciorety and Desharnais, that makes sense.
I have enough faith in both players to produce on their own, and I'd like to see Pac get Pleks going, and DD get Bourque going....

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06-07-2012, 03:10 PM
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In that scenario, Bourque would be on the 3rd line not Gionta.
Moen-Eller-Gionta would be a defensively responsible 3rd line. Bourque needs to be a on a scoring line IMO, or we would try rolling with 3 scoring lines...

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06-07-2012, 03:17 PM
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Its essentially the same kind of control they had over Hamhuis when he went UFA. They can't make him sign a contract but can control who talks to him. Only difference is the deadline is the unknown point when Radulov gives up on the NHL instead of July 1st. That was worth a mid range pick on the open market. I'd pay that for the opportunity to sign him, also knowing that I could recoup the pick by trading him to another interested team if we couldn't work out a deal (again like Hamhuis, or Erhoff last year).
Radulov has a multi year offer loaded with $ (it's speculated it's over 7mil and that's with no state tax and stuff like that) to come to CSKA, if he leaves for the KHL he's not coming back.

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06-07-2012, 03:22 PM
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I have enough faith in both players to produce on their own, and I'd like to see Pac get Pleks going, and DD get Bourque going....
I'd actually put Cole with Pleks (if we're to split the lines...), but that's just me....

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06-07-2012, 03:23 PM
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To be honest, I'd rather have Leblanc in the lineup than out of the lineup...

Especially considering he'd probably be an upgrade for two guys in the Top-9.

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06-07-2012, 03:25 PM
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Radulov has a multi year offer loaded with $ (it's speculated it's over 7mil and that's with no state tax and stuff like that) to come to CSKA, if he leaves for the KHL he's not coming back.
No NHL team is going to match a long-term contract at $7M plus per year. Unless Radulov prefers to play in the NHL, he's gone. If he does, he's going to have to get by on less.

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06-07-2012, 03:36 PM
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Radulov has a multi year offer loaded with $ (it's speculated it's over 7mil and that's with no state tax and stuff like that) to come to CSKA, if he leaves for the KHL he's not coming back.
Sure he might go to the KHL anyway but for an NHL team trying to get him that's functionally not any different from a player deciding to go to another NHL team.

Apparently Nashville has given permission to his agent to negotiate with the rest of the league. If that's the case then Nashville has even less leverage to demand significant compensation from a team that can work out a deal with Radulov. They can't even offer exclusive negotiation rights.

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06-07-2012, 03:37 PM
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Moen-Eller-Gionta would be a defensively responsible 3rd line. Bourque needs to be a on a scoring line IMO, or we would try rolling with 3 scoring lines...
Bourque was on a scoring line last year and didn't score. Challenge him by putting him on the 3rd line, he will still get PK time as he did a good job at that last year.

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06-07-2012, 03:40 PM
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To be honest, I'd rather have Leblanc in the lineup than out of the lineup...

Especially considering he'd probably be an upgrade for two guys in the Top-9.
Why not let him develop in Hamilton? He showed flashes last year but didn't look ready. Pacioretty's development went much smoother after they sent him down and left him there all year. Prospects don't bust because they are held back, they sometimes bust because they get to the NHL too soon and learn to survive instead of learning to thrive in the AHL.

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No NHL team is going to match a long-term contract at $7M plus per year. Unless Radulov prefers to play in the NHL, he's gone. If he does, he's going to have to get by on less.
For one thing it's not just about money. Even for 1 mil less it's much more prestigious to play in the NHL than KHL.

For another thing a lot of the high paid players there need to pay "protection money" as a form of extortion since the fall of communism.

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06-07-2012, 03:52 PM
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I agree Leblanc should stay in Hamilton and star regular first line minutes.

He's got the potential. He just need to get the habits.

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06-07-2012, 03:54 PM
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I'd take Semin over Radulov. If we're gonna give someone 7 mill...

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I'd take Semin over Radulov. If we're gonna give someone 7 mill...
Agreed.

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06-07-2012, 04:08 PM
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Semin, Parise, Jagr, Radulov...

I do hope we can land one, as our top 6 definitely is craving a star caliber winger...

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Is anyone else sick of hearing this?

Radulov played 2 years of Junior in Québec City. He didn't marry a girl from here, buy a house here and he sure didn't come back to visit.

So why do people assume he has any inkling to play for the Habs, when his only relationship was with the Remparts, and this over half a decade ago?
It seems there is a small group of Habs fans who think the Habs should become the Remparts: NHL Edition.

For all the talk about how great that organization is (it certainly is successful, in a very different world than the atmosphere), you never see a Remparts alumni take a discount to play in Montreal, no matter how much they loved Quebec City, even if they speak French.

I'd rather have Semin than Radulov, but I think Radulov is more likely. But I'd be disappointed if they aren't looking into either one, because this team desperately needs skilled wingers.

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I'd take Semin over Radulov. If we're gonna give someone 7 mill...
The only guy I could conceivably see us give 7 mil/year is Praise.

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The only guy I could conceivably see us give 7 mil/year is Praise.
And that's a shame. Giving Radulov or Semin 7 mil for 2 years would be perfect, as it would keep us from having to rush whoever is drafted.

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I'd actually put Cole with Pleks (if we're to split the lines...), but that's just me....
Agreed.

Honestly wouldn't mind seeing:

Patches-DD-Radulov
Eller-Plekanec-Cole
Bourque-Leblanc-Gionta

Line 1 is offensive-exploitation, and lines 2&3 are both defensively sound, but capable of playing up-tempto forecheck and have offensive upside.

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Moen-Eller-Gionta would be a defensively responsible 3rd line. Bourque needs to be a on a scoring line IMO, or we would try rolling with 3 scoring lines...
The defensive line should logically end up being any line Plek is on, especially in that lineup where Plek actually gets a tough minute winger.

And we very much need to try rolling 3 scoring lines, most good teams don't use the old model of 2 scoring lines + 1 shutdown line, the shutdown line is usually the first line on good teams, if it isn't it's usually the second.

Nowadays teams use more of an "outscoring" model, your first line tries to outscore the other team's first line, same with the second line and the third and we're even beginning to see teams doing that with their fourth line (remember Pouliot-DD-Darche last year).

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Bourque was on a scoring line last year and didn't score. Challenge him by putting him on the 3rd line, he will still get PK time as he did a good job at that last year.
That's because he was on a defensive line wich he can't handle (he also had a bit of bad luck in Mtl in terms of goals though his overall performance was pretty bad in part due to those hard minutes).

Bourque is a third liner, he's not the same type of third liner as a guy like Moen but at this point he doesn't look like he's able to play top 6 opposition wich any real top 6 player should be able to do.

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06-07-2012, 05:05 PM
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And that's a shame. Giving Radulov or Semin 7 mil for 2 years would be perfect, as it would keep us from having to rush whoever is drafted.
I'm all for signing either for the short term, but neither is worth a 7 mil cap hit.

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