HFBoards  

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Northeast Division > Montreal Canadiens
Notices

Can Radulov become a Hab?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old
06-14-2012, 11:54 AM
  #476
gillyguzzler
Registered User
 
gillyguzzler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,633
vCash: 500
While in the KHL, Radulov was widely seen as the best player in that league and not playing in the NHL.

When he returned to Nashville near the end of this season, his play was praised by all even though he had to adjust to his new team. He was instantly on the first line and he contributed.

During the team's first round dominating performance over none other than the Detroit Red Wings, Radulov was excellent. His line was dominant. Message boards and pundits were a buzz with Radulov's great play and where he would play next year.

Then, the second round happened. The team played poorly as did Radulov. His lack of hustle was dissected by Keith Jones. He blew curfew by 45-60 minutes and was benched.

Since, the all knowing experts here have labelled him as a lazy selfish Russian, in the same mold as AK46 and AK27. These experts would not touch this lazy Russian with a ten foot pole, adding that Mathieu Darche is more valuable than this lazy Russian.

Why was there not ANY talk about how lazy this Russian was after the first round?

The experts will argue that Nashville wants nothing to do with this lazy Russian. Maybe Radulov wants nothing to do with Nashville and the Preds are forced to cut their losses by trading him elsewhere. Maybe Radulov didn't appreciate being made the scapegoat in the second round.

gillyguzzler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 06:52 PM
  #477
MakeTheGoalsLarger
Registered User
 
MakeTheGoalsLarger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 499
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by gillyguzzler View Post
While in the KHL, Radulov was widely seen as the best player in that league and not playing in the NHL.

When he returned to Nashville near the end of this season, his play was praised by all even though he had to adjust to his new team. He was instantly on the first line and he contributed.

During the team's first round dominating performance over none other than the Detroit Red Wings, Radulov was excellent. His line was dominant. Message boards and pundits were a buzz with Radulov's great play and where he would play next year.

Then, the second round happened. The team played poorly as did Radulov. His lack of hustle was dissected by Keith Jones. He blew curfew by 45-60 minutes and was benched.

Since, the all knowing experts here have labelled him as a lazy selfish Russian, in the same mold as AK46 and AK27. These experts would not touch this lazy Russian with a ten foot pole, adding that Mathieu Darche is more valuable than this lazy Russian.

Why was there not ANY talk about how lazy this Russian was after the first round?

The experts will argue that Nashville wants nothing to do with this lazy Russian. Maybe Radulov wants nothing to do with Nashville and the Preds are forced to cut their losses by trading him elsewhere. Maybe Radulov didn't appreciate being made the scapegoat in the second round.
I rememeber the preds fans on HF weren't impressed by Radulov in the first round, even though he was the leading scorer, they thought he was invisible.

MakeTheGoalsLarger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 01:18 AM
  #478
bsl
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,798
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carey Price View Post
I don't really see the point. Radulov had success with Roy as coach in junior but this is two levels higher. Radulov could have played for Bugs Bunny at 19 in the Q and he would have ripped it up.
Bugs Bunny was under rated as a coach. He used the carrot not the stick approach.

Sorry. Just felt like posting that.

bsl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 01:22 AM
  #479
bsl
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,798
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clumsyhab View Post
Wouldn't mind Radulov if Roy was the coach.
Wouldn't mind a Ferrari if a Chevy Nova was attached. WTF?

bsl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 01:39 AM
  #480
bsl
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,798
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by gillyguzzler View Post
While in the KHL, Radulov was widely seen as the best player in that league and not playing in the NHL.

When he returned to Nashville near the end of this season, his play was praised by all even though he had to adjust to his new team. He was instantly on the first line and he contributed.

During the team's first round dominating performance over none other than the Detroit Red Wings, Radulov was excellent. His line was dominant. Message boards and pundits were a buzz with Radulov's great play and where he would play next year.

Then, the second round happened. The team played poorly as did Radulov. His lack of hustle was dissected by Keith Jones. He blew curfew by 45-60 minutes and was benched.

Since, the all knowing experts here have labelled him as a lazy selfish Russian, in the same mold as AK46 and AK27. These experts would not touch this lazy Russian with a ten foot pole, adding that Mathieu Darche is more valuable than this lazy Russian.

Why was there not ANY talk about how lazy this Russian was after the first round?

The experts will argue that Nashville wants nothing to do with this lazy Russian. Maybe Radulov wants nothing to do with Nashville and the Preds are forced to cut their losses by trading him elsewhere. Maybe Radulov didn't appreciate being made the scapegoat in the second round.
The situation reminds me a lot of Kovy. I think Rad would love MTL, and I think the fans would love him. If I was Bergy I'd get Kovy to give him a call. And Markov.

Sure the kid is a bit spoiled. He's young still. With a tough captain, and a tough team, he will find his place.

This talk of 'not that type' on a cup winner is crap. It takes all types. And it especially takes a few guy who score goals. Ego? Damn right. That's what makes a good aggressive scorer.

Or do you want to score +- 210 goals again next year?

I love the idea. Rad's value will never be lower, he's a great fit on this team, and Montreal loves Russians.

Bergy should at least make a major pitch.

bsl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 01:47 AM
  #481
bsl
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,798
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MakeTheGoalsLarger View Post
I rememeber the preds fans on HF weren't impressed by Radulov in the first round, even though he was the leading scorer, they thought he was invisible.
Funny that. Invisible, but leading scorer. You ever hear the term efficiency? All great scorers are efficient. They strike at just the right time, and don't waste energy.

You're just not used to having really talented players here.

bsl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 03:03 AM
  #482
Mike8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 10,729
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twi2teD View Post
First, you assume I don't watch hockey outside of the Habs, then you get a feeling that I don't like Belarussians? You're wayyy out to left field. Stop with the assumptions, I'm against hotshots of all nations.

Grabovski has gotten much better as a player, it's obvious. He's still not the kind of player you win with. Plays the perimeter, not strong on his skates and in board battles. Not strong enough defensively to match up against top centers and not strong enough offensively to be a go-to option. Doesn't possess the intangibles to overcome these shortcomings either(Will, character, leadership, etc.).

Just my opinion of course.
Funny that you say Grabovski is a perimeter player and can't match up against opponents' top lines when that's precisely what he does.

The whole 'you don't win with X player' is an overused saying that just isn't true. Any player in the NHL can play on a Cup winner. Good coaches can shelter players who have weaknesses. Grabovski, however, does not need to be sheltered.

Mike8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 12:01 PM
  #483
MakeTheGoalsLarger
Registered User
 
MakeTheGoalsLarger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 499
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsl View Post
Funny that. Invisible, but leading scorer. You ever hear the term efficiency? All great scorers are efficient. They strike at just the right time, and don't waste energy.

You're just not used to having really talented players here.
Read again. PREDS fans thought that. Not me and other habs fans.

MakeTheGoalsLarger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 03:36 PM
  #484
zeeto
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Johnson City, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 87
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MakeTheGoalsLarger View Post
Read again. PREDS fans thought that. Not me and other habs fans.
Which Predator fans? Because I didn't hear it at all from my friends, or their friends, down in Nashville when I was there during the first round.

zeeto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 03:40 PM
  #485
Ivan13
Another empty head.
 
Ivan13's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Zagreb
Country: Croatia
Posts: 10,789
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MakeTheGoalsLarger View Post
Read again. PREDS fans thought that. Not me and other habs fans.
I saw all of their games against the Wings and he was their best forward by far.

Ivan13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 07:33 PM
  #486
Habitualwinner
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 53
vCash: 500
I highly doubt Radulov will be in the NHL next year. There is no way I want him on the 2012-2013 Canadiens. What he did was inexcusable. I don't care if he had three 40-goal years in a row in the NHL. He is kryptonite to team chemistry. I really do not understand some of the posters on this board. The same people who wave the crying towels for the departure of Ribiero are likely the Radulov lovers as well. Certain talented players are not worth infecting the team, whatever their statistics and/or ability.

Habitualwinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 07:39 PM
  #487
Issacar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 387
vCash: 500
Now that CSKA Moscow acquired his rights in the KHL, how much they are willing to dish at him? 7M$ + / year ? Imo to make sure any NHL team match their offer, I'm sure it'll be beyond 7M$...

Issacar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 07:40 PM
  #488
Issacar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 387
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habitualwinner View Post
I highly doubt Radulov will be in the NHL next year. There is no way I want him on the 2012-2013 Canadiens. What he did was inexcusable. I don't care if he had three 40-goal years in a row in the NHL. He is kryptonite to team chemistry. I really do not understand some of the posters on this board. The same people who wave the crying towels for the departure of Ribiero are likely the Radulov lovers as well. Certain talented players are not worth infecting the team, whatever their statistics and/or ability.
I do agree with you.

Issacar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 09:09 PM
  #489
MTL-rules
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,777
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habitualwinner View Post
I highly doubt Radulov will be in the NHL next year. There is no way I want him on the 2012-2013 Canadiens. What he did was inexcusable. I don't care if he had three 40-goal years in a row in the NHL. He is kryptonite to team chemistry. I really do not understand some of the posters on this board. The same people who wave the crying towels for the departure of Ribiero are likely the Radulov lovers as well. Certain talented players are not worth infecting the team, whatever their statistics and/or ability.
Team chemistry ? We are dead last, what is there to infect ?

MTL-rules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 09:11 PM
  #490
Issacar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 387
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTL-rules View Post
Team chemistry ? We are dead last, what is there to infect ?
So since we have a crappy chemistry why would we want it to get better? Let's make the best of it by making sure Radulov will prevent us from playing as a team?

Issacar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 09:14 PM
  #491
Issacar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 387
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Issacar View Post
So since we have a crappy chemistry why would we want it to get better? Let's make the best of it by making sure Radulov will prevent us from playing as a team?
I mean even his previous KHL team traded his rights away this summer.

Issacar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 09:37 PM
  #492
Kriss E
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 17,147
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Issacar View Post
I mean even his previous KHL team traded his rights away this summer.
Yea, because he came back to the NHL. He didn't just come back here for a little 20 game stint for little money. I'm sure he'll get a lot of interesting offers this summer from NHL teams. His russian team traded his right, it's a smart move.

Kriss E is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 09:47 PM
  #493
Issacar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 387
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriss E View Post
Yea, because he came back to the NHL. He didn't just come back here for a little 20 game stint for little money. I'm sure he'll get a lot of interesting offers this summer from NHL teams. His russian team traded his right, it's a smart move.
CSKA Moscow can overpay any NHL team though.

Issacar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 10:13 PM
  #494
dcal64
Registered User
 
dcal64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habitualwinner View Post
I highly doubt Radulov will be in the NHL next year. There is no way I want him on the 2012-2013 Canadiens. What he did was inexcusable. I don't care if he had three 40-goal years in a row in the NHL. He is kryptonite to team chemistry. I really do not understand some of the posters on this board. The same people who wave the crying towels for the departure of Ribiero are likely the Radulov lovers as well. Certain talented players are not worth infecting the team, whatever their statistics and/or ability.
Grabovski and Sergei were also considered cancerous in the locker room, but with a change of scenery, they are now considered great team players.

Players grow up believe it or not.

dcal64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 10:30 PM
  #495
PricePkPatch
Registered User
 
PricePkPatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,620
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Issacar View Post
CSKA Moscow can overpay any NHL team though.
For a winger of Radulov's stature, maybe. But there is no way CSKA Moscow can overpay any NHL teams for a UFA Radulov 2 years down the line who will have spent this time with an NHL team proving he's got what it takes.

2 year contracts is probably what Radulov wants at the moment. Somewhere he can prove to be a real NHLer, because he knows that if he pulls it off, money will be raining in 2 years.

PricePkPatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 11:15 PM
  #496
Stradale
Registered User
 
Stradale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,000
vCash: 500
Damn.. the guy was 1 hour late of curfew. Reading this thread, looks more like he slept with the coach's wife or something. Yeah he made a mistake.. but to the point of calling it INEXCUSABLE is pretty funny. He's late. BIG DEAL. He got his punishment and he apologized to his teammates and org.

What's with the: "he's a cancer now, he will cause trouble in every team he goes in, he has the power to destroy the chemistry of a team all by himself!!! He's a bad bad human being. Be aware! Even he scores 40 goals, he will not help a team!!!"

Stradale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-17-2012, 10:42 AM
  #497
Habitualwinner
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 53
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcal64 View Post
Grabovski and Sergei were also considered cancerous in the locker room, but with a change of scenery, they are now considered great team players.

Players grow up believe it or not.
Here is a newsflash for you...Grabovski is intensely disliked by many of his Leaf teammates. My sources were established by the mods in the past. One played with Grabo in Hamilton and the other is tight with the Leafs. As for Sergei, well I lived in Nashville for 3 years and I know the scene there well. Let's just say that management there did their best to keep the players on the Preds with past history of going into the NHLPA substance abuse program away from the Sergei long before Radulov and his brother returned.

Oh...to those who thought team chemistry was responsible for the last place finish. I guess the fact that MTL led the team in man games lost due to injury had nothing to do with the result. Yes, they lacked the depth to overcome those injuries but it is no reason to cast aspersions on those who did step up. When you have a few injuries and the subject comes up, it is an excuse. When you lead the league in injuries it is an explanation.

Habitualwinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-17-2012, 06:40 PM
  #498
dcal64
Registered User
 
dcal64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 402
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habitualwinner View Post
Here is a newsflash for you...Grabovski is intensely disliked by many of his Leaf teammates. My sources were established by the mods in the past. One played with Grabo in Hamilton and the other is tight with the Leafs. As for Sergei, well I lived in Nashville for 3 years and I know the scene there well. Let's just say that management there did their best to keep the players on the Preds with past history of going into the NHLPA substance abuse program away from the Sergei long before Radulov and his brother returned.

Oh...to those who thought team chemistry was responsible for the last place finish. I guess the fact that MTL led the team in man games lost due to injury had nothing to do with the result. Yes, they lacked the depth to overcome those injuries but it is no reason to cast aspersions on those who did step up. When you have a few injuries and the subject comes up, it is an excuse. When you lead the league in injuries it is an explanation.
Read my post, I said Grabo was a problem before (i.e. Hamilton and Montreal), but is no longer a problem.

As for your source in Toronto, he knows squat, why would Burke give Grabo a big contract if he was a problem in the locker room? Burke could have traded him at the trade deadline for great assets.

Ask your Toronto source to answer that simple question.

dcal64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-18-2012, 12:57 AM
  #499
habscup
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,065
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LaTenderness View Post
Then clearly you haven't lived.....
Hahaha

The people that believe this nonsense are welcome to believe it but Radulov is a world class talent and in montreal around a guy like Markov he would perform no doubt. Just like Kovalev did.

habscup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-18-2012, 06:19 AM
  #500
PK76
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,939
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habitualwinner View Post
Oh...to those who thought team chemistry was responsible for the last place finish. I guess the fact that MTL led the team in man games lost due to injury had nothing to do with the result. Yes, they lacked the depth to overcome those injuries but it is no reason to cast aspersions on those who did step up. When you have a few injuries and the subject comes up, it is an excuse. When you lead the league in injuries it is an explanation.
That may be true but what impact player (aside from our captain) did we lose last year for a long period? Cammy and AK missed what 10 games each?

Eller should've stepped up even more last year and players like Palushaj (although he's just a proof that we had no decent offensive players in Hamilton) and especially Rene Bourque needed to give us more too.

PK76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:43 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2013 All Rights Reserved.