Montreal's 4th line talent level is equal to that of Chicago, Detroit, Vancouver and Boston? Blunden & Nokelainen?
There's a reason that Nokelainen should play less minutes than Plekanec and it's because he's nowhere near as good.
Nokelainen played 12 minutes last game. Plek played 19.
I really don't get what's the problem here? Cunneyworth talked about rolling 4 lines, but it essentially meant not having one forward (IE Plek) playing over 20 minutes, it didn't mean giving our less skilled players the same ice time as our more skilled one.
The 2nd and 3rd lines are getting a bit more ice time, and that's a good thing in my opinion.
Actually, the best GM would be Montgomery Scott. Not only could he build a universal translator that would switch any english comment into, "Nous avons joué une solide première période...", but he could arm Ensign Gomez with a phaser, set it to "Trade" and watch him disappear.
NHL Goalie*: 4 Stanley Cups, 3 Vezinas,
Hall of Fame, Canadiens Number Retired
VP Hockey Ops, Owner, GM – Quebec Remparts (1997-date)
Head Coach – Quebec Remparts (2005- date)
1 Memorial Cup as GM / Head Coach – Remparts Quebec
How do YOU know there's nothing wrong with these guys? Tell me.
Me? I have no suggestions because the two positions are the most difficult positions in professional hockey.
But yeah, YOU know they're fine. YOU know they'll be GREAT. It's all baout waht YOU know.
You know what? You don't know anything, nor do I. You know nothing. Your confidence is absurd.
When I express expert opinions, I do so only in my profession. In everything else, I do not presume to know. Maybe you should do the same.
Muppet.
My opinion was a business opinion (as I stated in my note) and I am in business......Why do you need to resort to name calling? Can't you make an intelligent point without resorting to name calling?
I understand what you are saying. No one here would ever say anything other than that Roy was possibly our greatest goalie ever. I love Patrick our goalie and always will.
But he walked out on the MONTREAL CANADIENS. Richard never did, Beliveau never did, not one of our great french players ever walked out on the team, and they had some pretty bad coaches and years too. Not many, but some.
Roy walked out on the HABS. He sh-it on the Habs. End of story. Don't want him near this team.
Roy did what most proud athlete would have done in the circumstances.....The one who sh-at on the Habs was really Tremblay and Houle.....and we are still paying for it today.....Tremblay had a habit of humiliating players (Remember the Brashear incident?). No athlete that gives its all like Roy did for the Habs deserve to be dealt with the way Tremblay did....I probably would have walked away too under the same circumstances....
I intend to do a quick writeup in this thread on all the GM candidates in the next few days, weeks... If anyone has the time, please feel free to post a writeup on any of the candidates.
Yes, but Roy and Tremblay had issues dating back to when the latter was a player. It's a pretty big slap in the face to your franchise's most talented player and most valuable asset to hire a rookie coach with whom he had a negative history. I'm sure if Tremblay had ben a guy like Bowman, Roy would have sucked it up like Lemieux did in Pittsburgh.
yeah, I do agree with that.....Roy was not miffed because Tremblay was tough, he was miffed because he had prior issues with Tremblay and Tremblay was voluntarily humiliating his players (including Roy)...
I've heard Doug Mclean describe Maguire as a video coach or whatever he did there. Refering to his coaching career, so I think his resume maybe looks a bit better on paper then it actually is. Personally I can't stand the guy but if I try and take a non bias look at him he does know the jr players very well, most of the guys he pumps in world jr tounaments have gone on to be good nhl'ers, also I like how he always says the habs need to get bigger and tougher. Other then that I don't see many positives from him, he is a loud mouth and can't stay composed, the gm position is not one where you make rash decisions, you have to be patient with some guys especially younger players.
NHL Goalie*: 4 Stanley Cups, 3 Vezinas,
Hall of Fame, Canadiens Number Retired
VP Hockey Ops, Owner, GM – Quebec Remparts (1997-date)
Head Coach – Quebec Remparts (2005- date)
1 Memorial Cup as GM / Head Coach – Remparts Quebec
Yeah, all of these are great credentials. Better than most non-NHL coach or GM hired at the NHL level....He loves the Habs (regardless of what some may say) and he is French....Oh, and it does not hurt that he can speak his mind too...when needed be....
Mcguire & Roy are definitely guys that make sense and people will talk about them.
The only thing that scares me is that I feel like both are a bit far away from the NHL game. I know Mcguire comments on stuff & what not, but it's been a long time since he worked for an NHL team.
Both would be good with the media though....both would have the balls to make strong decisions it seems.
I'm still curious about how much slack Gauthier will have and I'm really curious about the moves he will do in February assuming he is still making the decisions.
I just hope they don't hire someone we already had. Lemaire might be alright and get them going if someone has to come back. Roy I'm not sure what to make of it. Is the guy a really good coach, or just a high profile guy that would look good behind the bench.
Mcguire & Roy are definitely guys that make sense and people will talk about them.
The only thing that scares me is that I feel like both are a bit far away from the NHL game. I know Mcguire comments on stuff & what not, but it's been a long time since he worked for an NHL team.
Both would be good with the media though....both would have the balls to make strong decisions it seems.
I'm still curious about how much slack Gauthier will have and I'm really curious about the moves he will do in February assuming he is still making the decisions.
While true to a degree, you could look on the flip side and say few GMs would have anywhere close to the amount of exposure to youth talent as McQuire has over the past decade. I have noticed people citing him a poor decision due to his previous records, to which I have to ask. Do you believe in fifteen years he wouldn't be any different? I certainly say he is at worth giving an opportunity too.
What makes me favor him is the guaranteed change in philosophy McQuire would install, especially alongside Roy. We have sorely needed to shred our current lifeless identity and adopt a new but the Gainey/Gauthier era has brought this to a stagnate. McQuire has meanwhile been quite vocal about Montreal's needs and I feel he would be a good candidate to change this team for the better.
yeah but could McGuire handle someone like Roy? i would think Pierre is absolutely in the mix. he's close to Geoff Molson, and have you noticed lately he's toned down his criticism of the habs on Melnick's show. something is up
The only reason I'd accept McGuire as GM is because he wouldn't be game for just making the playoffs. I'm not sure he'd build a winning team but I think he'd clear us of losers like Gomez and Kaberle.
The only reason I'd accept McGuire as GM is because he wouldn't be game for just making the playoffs. I'm not sure he'd build a winning team but I think he'd clear us of losers like Gomez and Kaberle.
I think only Geoff Molson can get rid of Gomez.....but paying him to play in Hamilton and off our cap space......No GM in his right mind would accept Gomez on a trade, no matter what you take in return....
The only reason I'd accept McGuire as GM is because he wouldn't be game for just making the playoffs. I'm not sure he'd build a winning team but I think he'd clear us of losers like Gomez and Kaberle.
I think that only Geoff Molson can get rid of Gomez.....but paying him to play in Hamilton and off our cap space......No GM in his right mind would accept Gomez on a trade, no matter what you take in return....
I wouldn't mind Pierre McGuire at all. In fact, I'd like it.
Has a similar vision than the fans (He knows what this team is lacking) and he loves the habs to death, it's pretty obvious when you hear him bash our management over and over again.
I think everyone would be OK with an Anglo GM if you have a Francophone coach....Nill with Roy or Groulx would be good, in my opinion.....
You could have added that Sam Pollock spoke french. And you could have added that every significant manager-coach for the Habs since Dick Irvin spoke french. I do not count Al McNeil, for he was a sub that got humiliated while winning a cup.
Dick Irvin did pretty good, mind you. But it was known (and I think the movie Rocket shows it pretty good) that Irvin was a patronizing jerk.
NHL Goalie*: 4 Stanley Cups, 3 Vezinas,
Hall of Fame, Canadiens Number Retired
VP Hockey Ops, Owner, GM – Quebec Remparts (1997-date)
Head Coach – Quebec Remparts (2005- date)
1 Memorial Cup as GM / Head Coach – Remparts Quebec
Don't forget he's also a 3 time Conn Smythe trophy winner....not to mention the only one at that. I'm no Roy fanboy, but the guy does have player credentials out the wazoo.
