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12-22-2011, 10:38 PM
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I liked McNnabb a lot tonight and thought that he and the Hoff made a great ES pairing. 5 hits, looked good on the PP, and loved that he stood in for Vanek against Dion Spotpicker.
I second this thought.

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12-22-2011, 10:48 PM
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12-22-2011, 11:07 PM
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So he thinks Kaleta and Ellis are our top talents? They were out there with like 1:20 left... And Kaleta stayed til :15 seconds left.
Well he did that too but probably because his top line was gassed. On the whole, he overplays his favorites...... which is my point when he went with his 1st PP group instead of the 2nd (who were playing much better).

Maybe he was playing a hunch.....?

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Im hoping he's been pulled for a trade...
This is probably the least likely situation.

Lack of decent left wingers + he's been one of the few producers

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12-22-2011, 11:39 PM
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Can anybody explain to me why Regehr consistently only gets 18-19 minutes per game? 4th-5th most of dmen. I don't get it.

Even looking at just ES time he's 5th for dmen.

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12-22-2011, 11:47 PM
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Can anybody explain to me why Regehr consistently only gets 18-19 minutes per game? 4th-5th most of dmen. I don't get it.

Even looking at just ES time he's 5th for dmen.
He is getting older, and he has lost a step.

I think the coaching staff is preventing him from tiring out and being really exposed late in games.

I'd rather have Regehr playing at this level for 18/19 min a game than at a lesser level for 23/24......

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12-22-2011, 11:48 PM
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Wait, what the hell happened to Vanek??? Did it look serious???

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He is getting older, and he has lost a step.

I think the coaching staff is preventing him from tiring out and being really exposed late in games.

I'd rather have Regehr playing at this level for 18/19 min a game than at a lesser level for 23/24......
That's the only thing I can figure. But man he's just been so good in our own end, it's hard seeing certain guys being put out there for 3-4 or more minutes more than him each game.

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12-22-2011, 11:52 PM
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Update on Vaneks injury, just traded for him in fantasy hockey an hour before the game! Ugh!

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12-23-2011, 12:39 AM
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I ended up going, it was pretty fun.

Good:

- That's a loss I'll accept. Not getting any points against a team we'll be neck-and-neck with for a playoff spot sucks, but 42 shots on the road after losing Vanek in the 3rd, can't really argue.
- Miller. Obviously that Pittsburgh was as big a stinker as it gets, but he's looked like his old self lately. He was tremendous in the first. Also, was the Kadri goal tipped by a defenseman?
- Roysie. Even without the goal it was a good game.
- Regehr. He ****ed up on Kessel's goal but otherwise he really took him out of the game. Watching players try and dangle him through his legs is pretty hilarious.

Bad:

- Vanek hurt asdfjafdadfkljhdljhdflljhasdfasdghdsfghs
- Scalpers in Toronto/My stupidity. I live in Toronto, but go to school in St. Catharines, so I usually go to Sabres games because it's way closer and waaay cheaper. But one of my really good friends works in the store there so I figured I'd buy the cheapest ticket, go see the Sabres and her, ended up paying $125 to go to the STANDING section at the very top of the ACC. Again, my fault but that kinda sucked.
- Felt like there were a ton of really stupid passes through the middle. Miller had to bail them out a ton.
- If Ehrhoff could've handled the dump-in, and Regehr didn't fall, their first two goals didn't happen. Kind of annoying such simple mistakes cost us.
- I was at the Leafs-Sabres game last Friday, and that was one of the most intense, crazy atmospheres I've ever witnessed, and I kind of expected it to be similar here... not so much. I realize that a lot of the Leafs fans at the Buffalo game probably don't go to the ACC since it's so expensive, but we could use some more Sabres fans there.

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- Kessel. He's lucky he's really good at hockey.

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12-23-2011, 01:09 AM
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Van, looking at the replay of the PP goal, was laboring a bit. They may be calling it UBI (wrist or hand), but he's carrying that one leg off the ice a lot in that sequence on the five-on-three. Groin? Knee? Ack. Get well Tom.
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Well Vanek is day to day, hopefully he'll be good to go Monday after these three days off
From the daily updates we've had the past few days, Vanek has been skipping practice for maintenance reasons and was struggling with a lower body injury after the Pittsburgh game - I'm not sure if he aggravated it more tonight or if some new injury to the upper body actually happened. Maybe it's a back injury, caused by the fatigue of carrying the team on his for the past 30 games.....?

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Brayden McNabb in for MAG and the 2nd powerplay unit was actually pretty good. Heh.
Definitely - kudos to you for calling out the strategy in the GDT earlier. If McNabb shows some prowess on the PP in addition to his hitting ability, he'll not only move past Weber on the depth chart but Gragnani as well.

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Ugly: Stat from WGR postgame.

We are only 3 points better this year at the Xmas break, than we were last year(where many of us were saying the Sabres looked like the worst team in the league)
Well, according to Darren Dregehr on NHL Live today, the Sabres are suffering from an identity crisis in the eyes of most NHL observers around the league. The feeling is that they thrive on the "us against the world" image but have been fighting high expectations of being a division winner and Cup contender after their offseason spending. If that is true, then their freefall - regardless of injuries - has set them up for having to repeat the 2nd half surge they had last year.

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He is getting older, and he has lost a step.

I think the coaching staff is preventing him from tiring out and being really exposed late in games.

I'd rather have Regehr playing at this level for 18/19 min a game than at a lesser level for 23/24......
Agreed - I think Ruff is pacing Regehr correctly for when it really counts: the playoffs. He's still using Regehr against the top lines and on the first PK unit so I don't see the need to exhaust him with 23-24 minutes.

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12-23-2011, 01:11 AM
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One of the funnier post-game quotes from Pominville, even if it's more rhetoric in the face of another calamity:

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"The effort was there, the results weren't and if we keep putting efforts on like this and limit those little brain farts a little bit, we're going to get on a roll here"
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=383382

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12-23-2011, 01:17 AM
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He is getting older, and he has lost a step.

I think the coaching staff is preventing him from tiring out and being really exposed late in games.

I'd rather have Regehr playing at this level for 18/19 min a game than at a lesser level for 23/24......
I think you're spot on.

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12-23-2011, 01:25 AM
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Some consolation from Ruff's post-game interview on WGR - Vanek's absence in the 3rd period was only a case of the same nagging injury (which he described on Monday as a lower body) that kept him out of practice bothering him to the point where he couldn't fight through it for the final 20 minutes. Ruff termed it as "day-to-day".....

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hey guys whats the update with vanek? and how bad is he, feeling bad for you guys man, i know we are rivals but never like to see a team hurt this bad.

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Mike Weber made me miss Gragnani tonight. Yeah, I said it.

Miller played great, and my man crush on McNabb grows by the hour. Kid is tough, patient, calm with the puck, and very well composed in our zone.

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At this point, with all of the injuries, it's tough to be pissed or surprised by losses. I'm trying to take comfort in the fact that the effort was there, but there's still a major problem in my eyes:

We can't ****ing score.

Yes, it will be fantastic to get Myers back. But when Boyes, Ennis, Leino, and Brochen are all healthy, will we really, truly see more offense? Signs from earlier in the season lead one to think not. The problems are deeper than injuries, I'm afraid. I think this may be the first time in rethinking the notion of us having enough talent, when healthy, to contend legitimately.

Get into the playoffs and lean on your goalie and pray - right?

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Ugh...loss of vanek isn't good. Maybe the bit of play with Pomminville will help Stafford out, make him give more effort for a little while.

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The Leafs aren't great either - and saying they have a better record then us isn't saying very much at this point.
They are more talented than the Sabres in the scoring dept.
And yes, they are better than the Sabres. They've earned the points they have, just like our team has earned the spot they are in.

Toronto is better than Buffalo, you just need to own up to this fact.

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I like the comic strip. Except Pominvisible would never speak up like that.

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I like the comic strip. Except Pominvisible would never speak up like that.
Ha, good call.

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Didn't go out to watch the game last night, started drizzling, so the bike ride was out. Had radio only for game and post-game; used the time to wrap Christmas presents, so it was a "win" in my book.

Sounded like a great game to watch. Close throughout, Sabres dominating most of the 2nd.

Hamilton was disappointed with using Vanek on point on 5-on-3; felt he should have been down low per usual. Wonder if that assignment was related to injury?? Groin?

As sk8haggard9 posted, in the post-game show they noted BUF this year is only 3 points better than last-year's first-half stinkfest, having played 1 fewer game this year. Also noted they are closer to 8th place this year than last (when they eventually finished 7th).

Quite honestly, I don't see them going on the tear they did last year for 3 reasons:
1) The goaltending has been more like goatlending this season (with occasional, but too few, exceptions).
2) Drew Stafford is scoring fewer goals than Detroit's Drew Miller.
3) The injuries this season are too staggering. BUF would need to get everyone back at once, and have them click chemistry-wise, in a way they have not done so yet, in order for the team to go on a tear. Only getting a guy or two back each week for the next month or so is going to keep the slow-boat-to-a-non-playoff-finish going.

As for Regher with limited minutes - could also be the nagging injury & not wanting to worsen it.

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