Teams looking to win right now are NOT interested in Luke Schenn. Plain and simple. He's not going to add anything to a championship caliper team that needs to add a few pieces now. A team looking to build, I'm sure they have asked.
Cause he's slow as molasses. That's why they aren't interested in adding him.
Myers made a run for ROY. Schenn...not so much.
Dude, you need to get your nose out of the boxscores and watch the games sometime. Your missing a lot out there.
For one thing, Myers didn't "make a run for ROY" he won it. That was in '09-10. He and Schenn were both taken in the '08 draft, but Myers was returned to junior, while Luke made the big jump as an 18 y/o. And he made the NHL All-Rookie team, so it's not as if he didn't have a great rookie season. Jeez, people were already proclaiming him as our next captain.
If you think that championship calibre teams wouldn't be interested in Schenn, then you're off your rocker.
Fortunately, Burke is trying to build a young team that will be a serious contender for years. He won't sacrifice our future by going for the quick fix? Good grief! We've been paying the price for that kind of thinking around here for years.
Any GM would love to have Luke, and the reasons are obvious to most of us.
If you can't see what Luke Schenn brings to the game, then I wonder what you are looking at when you watch the game.
I'm out of here. Time to finish wrapping presents and getting the place ready for tomorrow. And even though we disagree about Luke, I wish you a Merry Christmas.
The thing is with Schenn is he hasn't improved since his rookie season, he has either declined (sitting in the press box a few times), or get to the level of his rookie season.
I don't think he'll ever be a Shea Weber type of player because he is held back by his horrible skating. The skating aspects gets exposed by quick teams, but thankfully not many teams in the league are build on speed. Schenn is a serviceable defenseman, one of my favourites, but he'll never be that cornerstone we have been hyping him up to be since his rookie season.
The thing is with Schenn is he hasn't improved since his rookie season, he has either declined (sitting in the press box a few times), or get to the level of his rookie season.
I don't think he'll ever be a Shea Weber type of player because he is held back by his horrible skating. The skating aspects gets exposed by quick teams, but thankfully not many teams in the league are build on speed. Schenn is a serviceable defenseman, one of my favourites, but he'll never be that cornerstone we have been hyping him up to be since his rookie season.
I could not disagree with u more. Schenn may be slow, but u cannot tell because most of the time he is in position to not exactly need speed( gardiner will take chances schenn wouldn't) schenn won't be weber... He isn't that offensive, defensive I think he will be the best, give him more time people on hf are the most impatient people on the face of the earth.
I could not disagree with u more. Schenn may be slow, but u cannot tell because most of the time he is in position to not exactly need speed( gardiner will take chances schenn wouldn't) schenn won't be weber... He isn't that offensive, defensive I think he will be the best, give him more time people on hf are the most impatient people on the face of the earth.
Let me add slow footed, can't stay with his man, and 80% of every time he touches the puck he makes a wrong decision. He's being held onto right now because Fletcher drafter him so high. One of the biggest underachievers in the draft.
Maybe you should look at the draft list again!!! Besides Stamkos and Doughty and maybe Myers who was a surprise....no one is tearing it up. Schenn is still one of the top 5 players of his draft class in the NHL...Guys like you want to get rid of him...29 gm's would be ready to pounce. Seriously get a clue!!
BTW...Zack Bogosian at number 3 pick has 2g 13 a 15P -3 Schenn 1g 10a 11P +5 and I don't know Bogosians hits....I know Luke again leads the Leafs in hits! If Schenn is a dissapointment to YOU...Bogosian is a bust!!!
Seriously ...get a clue!!! Not bad for a defensive d-man as opposed to an offensive d-man!!
Last edited by OlderTimer*: 12-25-2011 at 12:49 AM.
The thing is with Schenn is he hasn't improved since his rookie season, he has either declined (sitting in the press box a few times), or get to the level of his rookie season.
I don't think he'll ever be a Shea Weber type of player because he is held back by his horrible skating. The skating aspects gets exposed by quick teams, but thankfully not many teams in the league are build on speed. Schenn is a serviceable defenseman, one of my favourites, but he'll never be that cornerstone we have been hyping him up to be since his rookie season.
Agreed.
Schenn's skating is abysmal and he has hands of stone. He's a career 2nd pairing d-man.
No we don't!!!!! I guess you really don't see what Luke schenn can do!!! I am satisfied with Luke of how he plays the game as he gets older and smarter!!!
In case YOU haven't noticed...he tosses players like rag dolls with ease, name me another NHL player that can do that???? With ONE hand!!!! That is a special talent in itself!!!
He makes mistakes...BIG EFFING DEAL...get this through your stubborn head....EVERY PLAYER....ON EVERY TEAM ...NO MATTER WHO IT IS...MAKES MISTAKES....the problem is that you don't watch other games..just the Leafs so you see only Leaf players making mistakes!!!!
Schenn has had an up and down year. Glad he's been playing better lately, but you know he's got plenty of room to grow as a player. We're definitely going to need that continued improvement. If he keeps hitting and becomes more solid on the PK we'll have a key guy right there.
Schenn has had an up and down year. Glad he's been playing better lately, but you know he's got plenty of room to grow as a player. We're definitely going to need that continued improvement. If he keeps hitting and becomes more solid on the PK we'll have a key guy right there.
Some of us oldtimers who love the physical play already know what Schenn brings to the table...damn...the Leafs have not had a physical force like Schenn since Tim Horton!!!!I don't care that he can't score...I don't care he doesn't move the puck....I care that he PUNISHES PLAYERS!!!!!!
Merry Christmas....and Happy Holidays to all
Last edited by OlderTimer*: 12-25-2011 at 01:38 AM.
Maybe you should look at the draft list again!!! Besides Stamkos and Doughty and maybe Myers who was a surprise....no one is tearing it up. Schenn is still one of the top 5 players of his draft class in the NHL...Guys like you want to get rid of him...29 gm's would be ready to pounce. Seriously get a clue!!
Debatable
In addition to Doughty, Stamkos and Myers, theres:
Karlsson
Eberle
Del Zotto
Carlson
Stepan
Then there's still others like Henrique (amazing rookie season so far), Pietrangelo, Hamonic, etc.
There is something missing mentally for Schenn at the moment. He shows flashes of his shutdown potential and has an upcoming offensive game that is slowly evolving. But when it finally clicks for this guy watch out!
As I've always said, when the Leafs make the playoffs Schenn's true worth will be obvious to all. He's not really a game changer ... But in a 7 game grind he most certainly will be a series changer. This guy will bully and wear down the skill guys on the opposing team.
There is something missing mentally for Schenn at the moment. He shows flashes of his shutdown potential and has an upcoming offensive game that is slowly evolving. But when it finally clicks for this guy watch out!
As I've always said, when the Leafs make the playoffs Schenn's true worth will be obvious to all. He's not really a game changer ... But in a 7 game grind he most certainly will be a series changer. This guy will bully and wear down the skill guys on the opposing team.
I guess you did not read my last post...Merry Chrismas...and Happy holidays..
As you said debatable...but for now....Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all...
Honestly, I was lying and being nice when I said debatable. Let's face it, Schenn isn't top 5. Maybe you forgot some of the players when you made that statement, but can you honestly say Schenn is top 5 when there's Stamkos, Doughty, Karlsson, Myers, Eberle?
And no, I don't even think he's #6 when you look at the other names.
I'm not saying Schenn is a bad player. I think he's good right now and will continue to progress. But top 5 he is not.
Honestly, I was lying and being nice when I said debatable. Let's face it, Schenn isn't top 5. Maybe you forgot some of the players when you made that statement, but can you honestly say Schenn is top 5 when there's Stamkos, Doughty, Karlsson, Myers, Eberle?
And no, I don't even think he's #6 when you look at the other names.
I'm not saying Schenn is a bad player. I think he's good right now and will continue to progress. But top 5 he is not.
Check the stats, games played, Hits, etc, etc, or ask Malkin, Ov, top players in the game of who they would rather face head to head!!!!! You will know what I mean!!! Ask Malkin if he would rather play against Schenn or Karlsson??????
He's top 5 no matter what YOU think!!!!....
Last edited by OlderTimer*: 12-25-2011 at 02:05 AM.
In addition to Doughty, Stamkos and Myers, theres:
Karlsson
Eberle
Del Zotto
Carlson
Stepan
Then there's still others like Henrique (amazing rookie season so far), Pietrangelo, Hamonic, etc.
Del Zotto, Carlson and Stepan are not better then Schenn. Im a huge fan of Schenn, but I can honestly say he will be the top defence men of that draft. Players like Karlsson Del Zotto and Doughty are fun to watch but die down quickly. In 2003 Phanuef and Weber were the obvious choices the first couple seasons. Maybe Webers still good but when he wasn't with Suter (at the Olympics) he wasn't nearly as flashy. Now I say hands down Suter is the best D man that draft had. People may not agree but it is my honest opinion
Del Zotto, Carlson and Stepan are not better then Schenn. Im a huge fan of Schenn, but I can honestly say he will be the top defence men of that draft. Players like Karlsson Del Zotto and Doughty are fun to watch but die down quickly. In 2003 Phanuef and Weber were the obvious choices the first couple seasons. Maybe Webers still good but when he wasn't with Suter (at the Olympics) he wasn't nearly as flashy. Now I say hands down Suter is the best D man that draft had. People may not agree but it is my honest opinion
No arguement here...You misunderstood, I think Schenn will be the top d-man of his class and for what he brings to the table...He will be a rock on the d when it comes down to playoffs..
WJC...Schenn 0 points..but maybe the most valuable player on the team....he was outstanding...played his role to perfection....from that tournament I told all my buddies I wanted Leafs to draft Schenn!!!it's not all about goals and assists!!! It's about character..Schenn blew me away with his game, character, heart, desire, determination, hope you see what I saw!!!
Last edited by OlderTimer*: 12-25-2011 at 02:18 AM.
Seriously ...get a clue!!! Not bad for a defensive d-man as opposed to an offensive d-man!!
Nobody drafts a defensive defenceman with the no.5 pick in a draft. Nobody who has a clue on building a winning franchise anyways. It was a wasted pick. Get over it.
He makes mistakes...BIG EFFING DEAL...get this through your stubborn head....EVERY PLAYER....ON EVERY TEAM ...NO MATTER WHO IT IS...MAKES MISTAKES....the problem is that you don't watch other games..just the Leafs so you see only Leaf players making mistakes!!!!
For the record:
I'm a fan of the NHL 1st
A Red Wings fan 2nd
And a Leafs fan 3rd.
