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12-12-2011, 10:50 AM
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So whats really going on with green?

So anyone have any idea what might really be going on with him?? I think we are doing alright without having him, but would like to have an update of some sort of when he is expected back, I understand not putting him on IR to make sure people know we arent down a D-men and might be looking for one in the near future, so prices dont rise (if that is even what they are doing, and yes this means we would be replacing green for the season)

but yesterday he tweeted something about no sock at an airport? wonder why.

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12-12-2011, 11:24 AM
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I do find it odd that there seems to be no progress. He is still DTD and we don't have a timetable for his return at all.

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12-12-2011, 11:47 AM
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green has been out of the lineup long enough that he could be put on ir today and come off of it before the next game. he is only not on ir because the caps dont need the roster spot right now.

nhl teams are pretty smart about this stuff. a player that is not skating with the team is 10 days to 2 weeks from playing.

teams know that green is out and not really day to day

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12-12-2011, 01:06 PM
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this is up on NHL.com

Washington Capitals defenseman Mike Green, who has missed 14 straight games with a groin injury, is visiting with a specialist on Monday.

Green has not practiced since last Thursday and he has not played since suffering his injury Nov. 11 at New Jersey. That was his first game back after missing six games with an ankle injury.

Green has played in only eight games this season, but he has 6 points and the Capitals are 8-0 in those games. The plan is for Green to join the team on the road later this week. Washington plays in Winnipeg on Thursday.

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this is up on NHL.com

Washington Capitals defenseman Mike Green, who has missed 14 straight games with a groin injury, is visiting with a specialist on Monday.
Green has not practiced since last Thursday and he has not played since suffering his injury Nov. 11 at New Jersey. That was his first game back after missing six games with an ankle injury.

Green has played in only eight games this season, but he has 6 points and the Capitals are 8-0 in those games. The plan is for Green to join the team on the road later this week. Washington plays in Winnipeg on Thursday.
Hope its not the same guy who treated Poti

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12-12-2011, 01:15 PM
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that would be the specialist that sutherby, clark and poti went to. if he is seeing a specialist he is not going to be playing this week. i dont see the connection

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Sympathy pain for Crosby?

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12-12-2011, 02:41 PM
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Hopefully, at this moment GMGM isn't finalizing a multi-year contract with Green. We've all seen that movie before and it didn't end well.

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12-12-2011, 03:27 PM
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I have been pushing to trade Green for over two years now. And now I fear itís too late to trade him. He still has value. But no were near where it should be. At this point we should hold onto him and hope he matures physically as long as we donít over pay for him. And that was my fear all along. I donít want GMGM to give a guy 6.5 if he canít stay on the ice. I never thought we could count on him for a 20+ game playoff run. And now everyone knows it.

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should have traded him eh? run him out of town over playoff fail? players like that dont bring quality return.

reading the news on this, it backs up that green is in vancouver. that is where the groin specialist that sutherby, clark and poti saw. it goes with the player joining the team in winnipeg. it however does not jive with any idea that he might play on this trip. he stopped skating and went to a specialist. he's not playing anytime soon.

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12-12-2011, 04:03 PM
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should have traded him eh? run him out of town over playoff fail? players like that dont bring quality return.

reading the news on this, it backs up that green is in vancouver. that is where the groin specialist that sutherby, clark and poti saw. it goes with the player joining the team in winnipeg. it however does not jive with any idea that he might play on this trip. he stopped skating and went to a specialist. he's not playing anytime soon.
I put no playoff frailer on him. Well no more then anyone else. As bad as he looked at times he made big steps in becoming a better rounded player. And you could call him our best player a lot of the times. Since OV was MIA for so long. My only problem is his health. And I wanted to get the most for him while his value was at his highest. And my fear was paying 6.5-7.5 a year. And that was the road he was on. And never have him on the ice when we really needed him. And his game really drops off as soon he is banged up.

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12-12-2011, 04:16 PM
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green is not likely to get a 6.5m + contract. i see nothing that indicates that.

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12-12-2011, 08:47 PM
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green is not likely to get a 6.5m + contract. i see nothing that indicates that.
You donít think two 70+ point season would put him on track for 6.5+?

"And I wanted to get the most for him while his value was at his highest. And my fear was paying 6.5-7.5 a year. And that was the road he was on."

There is no way he gets that now. I just think we should have moved him when his numbers were inflated by BB street hockey system. Even at his best his game was way off any time he was hurt at all. And you could see teams starting to pound him more and on the for check.

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Due to Greens concussions he somehow believes it's Halloween and decided to do his best Tom Poti impression

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green is not likely to get a 6.5m + contract. i see nothing that indicates that.
What would you have said last year if someone had suggested that Brooksie would fetch a 6 year $4.5m per year contract? These days with players like Green, it's probably better to guess high.

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i should rephrase my position. i keep forgetting that the salary cap is a moving target. brooks laich is getting $4.5m. while i thought that was a bit high, this season he is earning his check. that salary for a 20 g center is fine. for a 20g center that plays first pp unit and first pk unit is probably a pretty good deal for the team. that he can skate real minutes on defense in a pinch and he is a bargain.

green's salary as a percentage of the salary cap, i dont expect to change. i guess that means he is gonna get a raise.

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12-13-2011, 08:31 AM
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What would you have said last year if someone had suggested that Brooksie would fetch a 6 year $4.5m per year contract? These days with players like Green, it's probably better to guess high.
Laich was a UFA and may have been, what, the 2nd best forward heading towards the market? It was always clear he was going to get paid (granted him getting paid as much as he did to stay here may have been a bit surprising).

Whether you think Green gets an equally surprising raise will depend on whether you think there will be a market for RFA signings and what you think the market will be like for competing pieces (e.g. Suter etc.)

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12-13-2011, 09:49 AM
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I think Laich's check is more like 6M this year.

OT, but why is Laich now able to play center, when he was seemingly not able to under Bruce? I wonder if my theory that he was TOO defensively responsible in Bruce's C high cover the D pinch system,yet expected to score. Or, is it simply that he is a traditional 3rd two way checking center that has been out of his element being largely a scoring LW all those years. We all kind of agree Chimera has not just hands, the hot hand. How much of Chimera's fast start is attributed to Laich? Laich while getting his points sits at -3.

Rounding back on topic, I am sure Green is chomping at the bit to get back. What would it cost him to come back 1/1 and be healthy the rest of year, versus Poti'd and barely able to get onto the ice? 1M per year, 2M? You can see how the life of a GM is tough. And he is smarting from Poti I am sure.

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why is Laich now able to play center, when he was seemingly not able to under Bruce?.
hasnt laich been playing center all season? i mean when the coach was bruce.

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hasnt laich been playing center all season? i mean when the coach was bruce.
Oops. Yeah. You got me.

/moving mouse slowly to the back button...
//still wondering why Laich is a minus

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My guess is the Caps qualify Green, he goes to arbitration and doesn't do particularly well. The 3 year splits will not be kind to him.

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My guess is the Caps qualify Green, he goes to arbitration and doesn't do particularly well. The 3 year splits will not be kind to him.
And the final part of the prediction: he plays in 20 games in the 2013 season, then walks away in free agency.

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My guess is the Caps qualify Green, he goes to arbitration and doesn't do particularly well. The 3 year splits will not be kind to him.
Great thought. QO should be like... ~6M (1 year).

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Hopefully he doesn't just sign the qualifying offer...

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My guess is the Caps qualify Green, he goes to arbitration and doesn't do particularly well. The 3 year splits will not be kind to him.
Caps can elect arbitration too, right (as in they haven't lost that right)?

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