Somebody please tell me how the highest bidded jersey at this point is Neil Little at $470 on two bids -- two NHL games played in -- while HHoF player Bernie is $420 on five bids... And HHoF player Mark Howe has yet to receive a bid and is holding at $250?
A career AHL player is topping Hall of Famers and fan favorites... I imagine it will be very different very soon... Must be a couple relatives or some crazy Phantoms fans driving it up right now. LOL
EDIT: Just saw that Lindros is now ahead of them all at $525.
Somebody please tell me how the highest bidded jersey at this point is Neil Little at $470 on two bids -- two NHL games played in -- while HHoF player Bernie is $420 on five bids... And HHoF player Mark Howe has yet to receive a bid and is holding at $250?
A career AHL player is topping Hall of Famers and fan favorites... I imagine it will be very different very soon... Must be a couple relatives or some crazy Phantoms fans driving it up right now. LOL
EDIT: Just saw that Lindros is now ahead of them all at $525.
Very simple, Neil Little was a HUGE fan favorite for the Phantoms. At jersey auctions his jerseys would routinely sell for thousands of dollars. I believe the most expensive Little jersey was an Xmas jersey that went for $8100.
That said it's very early in the bidding process and just because Litts is one of the highest ones now, doesn't mean that it will be when it's all over.
By not just saying "OMGZZ Neil Little" and shooting their loads within a day of the auction being posted? If everyone would just show a little patience, it wouldn't go up as much and as fast. Is your bid on the 20th day of the auction really going to win it?
By not just saying "OMGZZ Neil Little" and shooting their loads within a day of the auction being posted? If everyone would just show a little patience, it wouldn't go up as much and as fast. Is your bid on the 20th day of the auction really going to win it?
By your "strategy" who is to say that those same bidders in 2 weeks or minutes before the auction ends don't do the exact same thing instead of doing it yesterday? The bid is still going to be the bid whether it be the first day of the auction or the last. Why does it matter that it's the first day of the auction?
That said instead of waiting until the last minute some people prefer to put in their max bid in the beginning and if they get it great, if not no big deal. And, yes, I have seen people put in a bid on the first day an auction opens and winning the item.
It may not be your "strategy", but no reason to insult those people who may have a different bidding technique than you.
By your "strategy" who is to say that those same bidders in 2 weeks or minutes before the auction ends don't do the exact same thing instead of doing it yesterday? The bid is still going to be the bid whether it be the first day of the auction or the last. Why does it matter that it's the first day of the auction?
That said instead of waiting until the last minute some people prefer to put in their max bid in the beginning and if they get it great, if not no big deal. And, yes, I have seen people put in a bid on the first day an auction opens and winning the item.
It may not be your "strategy", but no reason to insult those people who may have a different bidding technique than you.
Lol, you're funny. Dude, have you ever heard of exaggerating? I was exaggerating, relax. I can always tell when someone's pissed because they sarcastically "__" a word to belittle it.
Have you ever looked up bidding statistics? Have you ever used eBay? There's a reason why people snipe at the end, they're trying to 1) save money and 2) give someone LESS TIME to beat them.
By your "strategy" who is to say that those same bidders in 2 weeks or minutes before the auction ends don't do the exact same thing instead of doing it yesterday? The bid is still going to be the bid whether it be the first day of the auction or the last. Why does it matter that it's the first day of the auction?
That said instead of waiting until the last minute some people prefer to put in their max bid in the beginning and if they get it great, if not no big deal. And, yes, I have seen people put in a bid on the first day an auction opens and winning the item.
It may not be your "strategy", but no reason to insult those people who may have a different bidding technique than you.
I really don't believe that Johnny is trying to insult anyone as much as he is discussing the downsides of placing early bids and getting into an early bidding war... or multiple bidding wars over the span of he auction.
For discussion purposes only; I have noticed on places such as eBay that it is often a bidder that pops up out of the blue at the last minute, and has not placed a bid prior, that wins... Problem with eager bidders is that they cause an early and often acceleration by going head to head until they are maxed out and go away; often with over a three quarters of the auction time remaining... This sets up an appearance of a greater demand and sets the new early base to a higher level... Subsequent new bidders come in and may up it more, and then drop out... By the time the serious bidders who have money and drive get in, the bid is already inflated... The more the serious deep pocketed bidders who really want the item join in, the higher and higher it goes... until the patient clever and sneaky final bidder swoops in out of nowhere and snatches it up.
... Now I can easily see the point of it happening at the end, but the time limitation can often defuse many bidding wars... and the starting off point of the serious bidding will be a lower amount and the bidding will be shorter... The people who are not willing to go too high will be out very quickly... and a better picture of the competition will be established fast... But in the end it is the smart and experienced bidder who gauges the field the best and guesses its limits, and is willing to place his maximum bid well higher than the bid in the final half minute or so will win the item... at an inflated price.
Supply and demand is one thing, but bidders who are not seriously willing to go the limit will often push the cost above the S&D price, IMO... Jersey auctions may be different than eBay auction items, but I'd bet the principle would be basically the same or similar.
Silent or sealed envelope auctions may be the best... but most risky... to have to avoid open bidding wars... but the bidding wars in our minds still remain.
To each his own, but remember that one's own may effect others in the end.
Lol, you're funny. Dude, have you ever heard of exaggerating? I was exaggerating, relax. I can always tell when someone's pissed because they sarcastically "__" a word to belittle it.
Have you ever looked up bidding statistics? Have you ever used eBay? There's a reason why people snipe at the end, they're trying to 1) save money and 2) give someone LESS TIME to beat them.
I apologize if I misunderstood (hardly pissed off though), but, given the 90 game-worns in my collection, yes I've used eBay quite a bit. However, this isn't eBay and one cannot snipe items at the end on NHL.com auctions. See below for edit.
That said, there are those people who have a maximum amount they are willing to spend on an item and will put that amount at the beginning of the auction and I have seen that strategy be successful.
Edit: If you go to any item, next to "close date" there is a hyperlink that says "or later". If you click on it a window opens that reads...
"Auto Extend
If a bid is placed during the last 5 minute(s) of an auction, the auction will be automatically extended for an additional 5 minute(s) from the time of the latest bid. This auction will close once all bidding activity has stopped for a period of 5 minute(s)."
So, to confirm what I wrote above, there is no sniping on NHL.com auctions.
Last edited by pelts35.com: 01-04-2012 at 01:20 PM.
I apologize if I misunderstood (hardly pissed off though), but, given the 90 game-worns in my collection, yes I've used eBay quite a bit. However, this isn't eBay and one cannot snipe items at the end on NHL.com auctions. See below for edit.
That said, there are those people who have a maximum amount they are willing to spend on an item and will put that amount at the beginning of the auction and I have seen that strategy be successful.
Edit: If you go to any item, next to "close date" there is a hyperlink that says "or later". If you click on it a window opens that reads...
"Auto Extend
If a bid is placed during the last 5 minute(s) of an auction, the auction will be automatically extended for an additional 5 minute(s) from the time of the latest bid. This auction will close once all bidding activity has stopped for a period of 5 minute(s)."
So, to confirm what I wrote above, there is no sniping on NHL.com auctions.
I agree 100% with you. It makes it much more like a live auction. It takes the pressure of getting your bid in at the last second, but could make you spend a few more dollars than you wanted to if you get caught up in the moment (trust me, I know .
Hate the five minute add on, for the sole reason that people think it's smart to wait the five minutes just to place another bid so it goes on forever haha.
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Hate the five minute add on, for the sole reason that people think it's smart to wait the five minutes just to place another bid so it goes on forever haha.
AH-HA... SO!!! YOU must be one of those snipers who swoop in and steal what we thought were sure wins.
AH-HA... SO!!! YOU must be one of those snipers who swoop in and steal what we thought were sure wins.
No no no. I like the idea, just every time I do it I have my max bid in and i'll just be watching it to see if it holds up and people wait until like 20 seconds are left to bid during each additional five minutes when my bid will just be higher than their $5 increase anyway.
No no no. I like the idea, just every time I do it I have my max bid in and i'll just be watching it to see if it holds up and people wait until like 20 seconds are left to bid during each additional five minutes when my bid will just be higher than their $5 increase anyway.
Haha Just messing with ya.
Maybe those last 5 second bidders are thinking that he rules are different, and are like eBay's... and they are trying to snipe.
... I would imagine that people may get screwed if at work and get tied up for a few minutes and are not able to get back in time before the auction ends.
Also, people who are pulling those last second blitzes may get burned by an Internet glitz where they have a connection or website problem. Internet auctions are so much more frustrating at times than face to face ones where the only concern is scratching your nose at the wrong moment and bidding when you don't want to.
Does Skate Zone customize the 3rds from 03-07? I checked "Flyers jersey kit" on ebay, but it looked like only our current jerseys. Any info is appreciated.
Those jerseys seem to be one of the toughest to customize correctly and as a result, you rarely see them done correctly. If you want them done to on ice specs, you have one, possibly two options. The first option is to send the jersey to Exclusive Pro Sports in Rockford, Illinois. There was an ebay seller who had orange thirds customized properly by EPS
Your second option is to call Ruberti's. They were the Flyers on ice customizer at the time that this orange third was worn. I do not know if they still can properly do the jersey, but it wouldn't hurt to ask
The Skatezone will send your jersey to Philly Express (the current customizers of the Flyers on ice jerseys). Philly Express took over after the orange third was removed so I doubt they would be able to do it right.
The Voorhees' main phone number is 856-309-4400 and they will connect you to the store, or their answering machine... they are hard to contact and it is best, if possible, to drop in and talk face to face... All SkateZones send off to Philly Express, so all should be able to get you the answer. I would assume that they will have to get with PE to be sure, so it may take a while to get the answer... Good luck with your problem.
Thanks for the backup Saw, I was just kidding around making fun of them, I thought I made it obvious enough to go unspoken. Anywho, while there isn't last second sniping, there is still "sniping" in te sense that you bid at the end. You do this hoping less people see the increase and thus don't get to bid. Putting your max out at the beginning just gives more people a chance to cap it. 5 minutes is a lot less time to have your bid attacked than 21 days. And I consider that a much more sensible, and most likely money saving, way to bid.
Thanks for the backup Saw, I was just kidding around making fun of them, I thought I made it obvious enough to go unspoken. Anywho, while there isn't last second sniping, there is still "sniping" in te sense that you bid at the end. You do this hoping less people see the increase and thus don't get to bid. Putting your max out at the beginning just gives more people a chance to cap it. 5 minutes is a lot less time to have your bid attacked than 21 days. And I consider that a much more sensible, and most likely money saving, way to bid.
You may consider it more sensible, but some people don't care about saving money and just want the item up to a certain threshold. That said if someone is willing to pay up to $x for an item and either doesn't want to stay online after 10:30 when it is scheduled to end or may not have Internet access, why not submit their max bid on day one and then waking up the morning after the item ends to see if they won or not. Again, some people aren't going to care if another strategy is going to save them a couple hundred bucks if all they truly care about is getting the item.
As for sniping, I disagree with you as it simply cannot happen here, just as it can't happen at a live auction. Sniping an item is winning an auction with a last second bid. With this system, you cannot do this.
As for getting the item less by waiting until the end, again, it doesn't apply with this system. This system is like a live auction where prices typically skyrocket at the end because you have the people who are truly interested in the item going back and forth with bidding wars. I've seen numerous auctions like this that were supposed to end at 10:30 go past midnight.
Please excuse me if I posted this story here before... and not for anything posted here today, but merely in conversation:
Back when Hextall was being honored and going into the Flyers HoF I decided to finally get a jersey I had wanted but never got... I went on eBay and found many Hextall up for auction at inflated costs... Hexy was hot.
I was leading on on a nice '80s-'90s Orange in my size and IIRC autographed -- I do image study on autographs before bidding to see if they signature is likely to be legit when no COA is involved -- the price was fair and in my range... IIRC, At the last minute I was sniped, or it went above my self imposed limit... I forget which, but I believe i was the latter... and I lost the auction and resigned myself to the fact.
A few days later, after the auction and receiving an out-bid email, I received an email from the seller saying that the winning bid crapped out for some reason and I could buy it for the winning bid... I thought WTH? If the winning bid fell through, it was therefore NOT the winning bid... and my bid was the highest legitimate bid as the auction ended because there was no high legitimate bid... clear cut and logical, and morally right. How could the seller even ask me to spend the higher amount? I though that possibly the seller was pulling a scam in which he upped a bid he thought was too low with a phony account and bid so that the real winner would have to pony up more bread... I ignored his email and let him put up for auction again; I'd bet that after all the Hextall auctions that saturated the market, and after Hextall was inducted and 'time' had passed, he had to take less.
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