I expect Nelson to be signed after his junior season.
There's a quote from about 2 months ago from his head coach.The coach says he expects the sophmore to be ready to turn pro after 3 college seasons.
Also ,the isles sound like they are very high on him.I doubt they risk losing him, to the college loophole that cost them Gregiore and Kessel.They got Donovan and Ness to leave college a yr early.
I think he'll be signed early as well, but just to clarify, he isn't eligible for the same 'loophole' as Gregoire and Kessel, as he went to the NCAA straight after being drafted.
I think he'll be signed early as well, but just to clarify, he isn't eligible for the same 'loophole' as Gregoire and Kessel, as he went to the NCAA straight after being drafted.
That's good news.
Am I confusing Nelson with Lee?I could have sworn that one of the isles promising forward prospects,had to be signed early out of college.
well hakstol (nelsons college coach) doesnt decide when he is ready to turn pro. he only said that as a way of making an argument that nelson should come back for a 3rd year so UND doesnt lose one of their top scorers this summer. college coaches always say a kid needs 1 more year at their school. hakstol called him a 3 year college player- that means he is a two year player and hakstol is hoping to squeeze a third out of him. i wouldnt be too surprised if nelson did return for his junior season, but that decision is up to nelson/islanders to work out..
Am I confusing Nelson with Lee?I could have sworn that one of the isles promising forward prospects,had to be signed early out of college.
You might be. Lee needs to be signed this summer (or he can choose to walk the next, like Kessel and Gregoire).
Of course, he could still sign with the Isles then also, but I'm wondering if there are some CBA rules that makes it more profitable to walk (and become UFA, or whatever the status will be then). Looking up Jason Gregoire on capgeek, he does seem to have the best contract terms among non-roster players in the Winnipeg organization, with the exception of 7th overall Mark Scheifele. He also has a better contract than Rhett Rakhshani (who I guess he would be comparable too), but that might just be because of rising salaries in general.
Not this summer, but the one thereafter (after his junior year).
He played one season of USHL hockey after the Isles drafted him.
Still, I think they may sign him this summer anyways.
Well, I might have worded it wrong, but Lee can choose to walk in the summer of 2013 (4 years after being drafted in 2009), which is why the Isles should sign him the off-season before this (ie. This summer).
To be precise, I think Nelson can snub the Isles four years after his draft year (ie. 2014) too, but in that case it will be after he has graduated college (and with a compensatory pick for the Isles).
Since I began reading this board 4-5 yerars ago, no single topic has got so much attention as the 2008 draft. The topic still comes up at least once a month. Whether that first draft pick was the right one or not, it's very difficult to argue against an excellent haul in terms of depth. This week Aaron Ness became the 8th player selected by the Islanders that year to play in the NHL. It's pretty much a given that Matt Donovan (currently second in AHL scoring among rookie defencemen) will see NHL ice as well. Whether or not the 2008 draft will beat the 1999 NYI record (9 players to the NHL), then probably depends on Kirill Petrov.
Out of the 3 last 2008 picks, Corey Trivino seemed to get on the right track (on the ice), but after his incident that led to his release by Boston University, it doesn't seem very likely that he will see NHL ice. David Toews and Jyri Niemi both play in the ECHL, but at least Niemi was traded to the Rangers for a pick that was turned into Brenden Kichton.
In terms of selections making the NHL, the 2009 draft is currently 5 for 7. However, Casey Cizikas will make the NHL (any day now), and Anders Lee has a pretty good chance as well.
If Cizikas and Lee makes it to the NHL, all 9 players picked (2008+2009) after the third round have made it to the big show. I find that rather remarkable.
Let's just say that Cody Rosen (1 game this year, GAA: 8.73) makes it very unlikely that the streak will continue with the 2010 draft. Things are looking too well for ECHL player Tone DeHart either. At least Brock Nelson is starting to look like a really smart pick.
New York Islanders Top 25 Prospects 2011-2012 Update 02/13/12
We all have such high hopes for our prospects since it's basically our only pipeline of talent. It looks to me that the majority of them won't be ready to join the pro ranks for at least another year.
We all have such high hopes for our prospects since it's basically our only pipeline of talent. It looks to me that the majority of them won't be ready to join the pro ranks for at least another year.
As someone who gets to watch Kichton a lot, you might see bits and pieces of him next year if the D situation goes the same as this year's and you rack up a few injuries. He reminds me a lot of Jared Spurgeon (another ex-Chief). Spurgeon got the chance to play a good number of games in Minny in his first pro season...maybe Kichton will too.
I guess though that Spurgeon has a great shot while Kichton's is a lot weaker (but tries to use it way more efficiently)...while Kichton is a brilliant puck mover while I would rate Spurgeon as "above average". Spurgeon's game probably adapts quickly to the NHL game while Kichton will need time to learn how to get the puck though traffic again.
So is Spurgen a good NHL comparison for Kitchten? I don't know much about him. I just see he's having a monster year in juniors, but he had an even bigger year this year. He isn't considered a big prospect, is he (borderline top 10)? I don't know anything about him. Thanks.
So is Spurgen a good NHL comparison for Kitchten? I don't know much about him. I just see he's having a monster year in juniors, but he had an even bigger year this year. He isn't considered a big prospect, is he (borderline top 10)? I don't know anything about him. Thanks.
Brenden is bigger and probably a more sharp passgiver. Spurgeon is the slicker, better-shooting player.
Kichton will be signed and in the AHL next year. He'll need some time before he's become a successful 'pro' Dman.
Brenden is bigger and probably a more sharp passgiver. Spurgeon is the slicker, better-shooting player.
Kichton will be signed and in the AHL next year. He'll need some time before he's become a successful 'pro' Dman.
From an article posted on the Prospects board, Kichton was recently voted 4th on a poll of 'Most Valuable to Team' among the WHL Western Division. I think that is a pretty good sign, too.
The defense in Bridgeport should be pretty good next year, by the way, assuming that the Islanders' aren't promoting too many players from the get-go.
From an article posted on the Prospects board, Kichton was recently voted 4th on a poll of 'Most Valuable to Team' among the WHL Western Division. I think that is a pretty good sign, too.
The defense in Bridgeport should be pretty good next year, by the way, assuming that the Islanders' aren't promoting too many players from the get-go.
Is he actually a prospect though? The reason I ask is because he had an even better season last year and he still fell to the fifth round of the draft. Is he just a good CHL player that doesn't have much projection as an NHL prospect?
Is he actually a prospect though? The reason I ask is because he had an even better season last year and he still fell to the fifth round of the draft. Is he just a good CHL player that doesn't have much projection as an NHL prospect?
He fell to the fifth round in the draft in large part because he had only 1 good year in junior, and that was when partnered with a top prospect in Jared Cowen. He was passed over in his draft year.
I think, even though the numbers are down a little, his stock is up a little as he has shown that last year was no fluke and that he can produce even when teams are focused on him.
He isn't a top prospect, but certainly someone to watch.
From an article posted on the Prospects board, Kichton was recently voted 4th on a poll of 'Most Valuable to Team' among the WHL Western Division. I think that is a pretty good sign, too.
The defense in Bridgeport should be pretty good next year, by the way, assuming that the Islanders' aren't promoting too many players from the get-go.
I'm hoping Katic will be healthy and kept. I'm hoping that both Kichton and Pedan are signed and ready for AHL hockey. Kichton has to be signed or goes the way of, yuck, Tony DeHart.
He fell to the fifth round in the draft in large part because he had only 1 good year in junior, and that was when partnered with a top prospect in Jared Cowen. He was passed over in his draft year.
I think, even though the numbers are down a little, his stock is up a little as he has shown that last year was no fluke and that he can produce even when teams are focused on him.
It should be noted though that Detroit extended an camp invite to him, but released him after.
The big thing about Kichton's numbers is that this year, he's become a lot of their offense. In 2010-2011, they had a few older players who produced in addition to Cowen (Tyler Johnson, Levko Koper). Now it's very much Kichton's and Dominik Uher's (Pittsburgh Penguins) show. The fact that his numbers dropped after losing key pieces of their offense is no surprise...the fact that they dropped so little proves he's a legitimate prospect.
It should be noted though that Detroit extended an camp invite to him, but released him after.
The big thing about Kichton's numbers is that this year, he's become a lot of their offense. In 2010-2011, they had a few older players who produced in addition to Cowen (Tyler Johnson, Levko Koper). Now it's very much Kichton's and Dominik Uher's (Pittsburgh Penguins) show. The fact that his numbers dropped after losing key pieces of their offense is no surprise...the fact that they dropped so little proves he's a legitimate prospect.
Thanks for your insight on Kichton. I do feel that he a legit prospect as well. He almost made team canada for the WJC too. I feel that him and John Persson are underrated on this board.
It should be noted though that Detroit extended an camp invite to him, but released him after.
The big thing about Kichton's numbers is that this year, he's become a lot of their offense. In 2010-2011, they had a few older players who produced in addition to Cowen (Tyler Johnson, Levko Koper). Now it's very much Kichton's and Dominik Uher's (Pittsburgh Penguins) show. The fact that his numbers dropped after losing key pieces of their offense is no surprise...the fact that they dropped so little proves he's a legitimate prospect.
They had to release him. He was only 19 at the time and not eligible to be signed as a free agent.
Granted, they still could have signed him in the third or fourth round, but they couldn't sign him after the prospect camp.
As someone who gets to watch Kichton a lot, you might see bits and pieces of him next year if the D situation goes the same as this year's and you rack up a few injuries. He reminds me a lot of Jared Spurgeon (another ex-Chief). Spurgeon got the chance to play a good number of games in Minny in his first pro season...maybe Kichton will too.
I guess though that Spurgeon has a great shot while Kichton's is a lot weaker (but tries to use it way more efficiently)...while Kichton is a brilliant puck mover while I would rate Spurgeon as "above average". Spurgeon's game probably adapts quickly to the NHL game while Kichton will need time to learn how to get the puck though traffic again.
Thanks. When I attended the Isles Prospects Game, Kichton was very good along the offensive blueline in terms of not flubbing passes back to the point. He received passes extraordinarily well and played the power play with a ton of poise even if no scoring chances came up. Is this something you notice about his game as well?
He also did not look like a + in the puck carrying department. He did not seem to have that extra gear to scoot like other small Isles D prospects Aaron Ness and Mark Katic. But he is much bigger than those players and a little more physical (in that he wouldn't get totally run all over).
All in all I think he is a real NHL prospect. He will get a cup of coffee in the next few years.
