You were probably thinking of Brad Dalgarno or Brett Lindros, who were both thought of that way. Bertuzzi was thought of as a project at the time and not necessarily a very physical player. Remember that when Bertuzzi was a rookie and into his second year the Isles asked Clark Gillies to work with him and get him to play tougher. Bertuzzi kind of rebelled against this and that was why they gave up on him so quickly.
Bertuzzi was a hot-head in junior. In fact, they were hoping that he could channel some of his angry play in the right direction. His skill was evident, but his temper was a bit of a concern. Again, Milbury traded him because Milbury, himself, is an impatient hot-head.
Mikkel, GREAT STUFF!!!
I think Strome might be leading in the +/- category = +36
My mistake Although, that leads me to note that Strome went from +23 to +36 in the 2 weeks since the previous update. Not so bad, eh?
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Nobody's heard anything about Trivino, eh?
Not me at least. I have actually tried to search for a bit of news, but what comes up doesn't exactly relate to his status on the ice. Regarding that other stuff, others might find this piece from the NY Times interesting as well: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/09/sp...y-program.html
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Seriously...What is going on there?
Kichton actually had even more points last year (where he, like this year, led the WHL in points among defensemen). That team had a lot more offensive firepower though (e.g. 115 point scorer Tyler Johnson), whereas Kichton leads his entire team in points this year. This is very encouraging, obviously, and he certainly looks a great find in the 5th round of the draft!
Looking merely at stats, I'm getting quite happy about Andrei Pedan also. He's gone from 12 points in the OHL last year (his rookie year in NA) to 35 points already this year. He's also a big boy (6'4), and it seems like he plays with an edge as well, as he's 5th in the OHL in PIM (148 so far). He's probably still a few years away - born in July' 93 he's still not eligible for the AHL next year - but as a project, he might become very interesting down the road. God knows the NYI could use a big bruising defenseman!
My mistake Although, that leads me to note that Strome went from +23 to +36 in the 2 weeks since the previous update. Not so bad, eh?
Not me at least. I have actually tried to search for a bit of news, but what comes up doesn't exactly relate to his status on the ice. Regarding that other stuff, others might find this piece from the NY Times interesting as well: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/09/sp...y-program.html
Kichton actually had even more points last year (where he, like this year, led the WHL in points among defensemen). That team had a lot more offensive firepower though (e.g. 115 point scorer Tyler Johnson), whereas Kichton leads his entire team in points this year. This is very encouraging, obviously, and he certainly looks a great find in the 5th round of the draft!
Looking merely at stats, I'm getting quite happy about Andrei Pedan also. He's gone from 12 points in the OHL last year (his rookie year in NA) to 35 points already this year. He's also a big boy (6'4), and it seems like he plays with an edge as well, as he's 5th in the OHL in PIM (148 so far). He's probably still a few years away - born in July' 93 he's still not eligible for the AHL next year - but as a project, he might become very interesting down the road. God knows the NYI could use a big bruising defenseman!
That improvement by Strome is impressive (though taking into account is 100 point game, lol).
Pedan is a sleeper in the prospect pool, between Mayfield and Pedan we should expect some size in LI in the next 3-4 years.
Bertuzzi came out of juniors as a big guy with a reputation for inconsistent effort. And does anyone remember when Milbury set him up to hang out with Clark Gillies in an aparent effort for "power forward" to rub off on him?
My main memory of Bertuzzi was how he always kept one hand off the stick to ward off contact. Tough guy.
Kichton actually had even more points last year (where he, like this year, led the WHL in points among defensemen). That team had a lot more offensive firepower though (e.g. 115 point scorer Tyler Johnson), whereas Kichton leads his entire team in points this year. This is very encouraging, obviously, and he certainly looks a great find in the 5th round of the draft!
It should be denoted, however, that he was drafted as an overager and must be given a contract this summer. Otherwise, he becomes a UFA.
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Looking merely at stats, I'm getting quite happy about Andrei Pedan also. He's gone from 12 points in the OHL last year (his rookie year in NA) to 35 points already this year. He's also a big boy (6'4), and it seems like he plays with an edge as well, as he's 5th in the OHL in PIM (148 so far). He's probably still a few years away - born in July' 93 he's still not eligible for the AHL next year - but as a project, he might become very interesting down the road. God knows the NYI could use a big bruising defenseman!
A kid his size takes time, but I've been convinced since the prospects camp that this kid has an NHL future of some sort. It was shocking how good his skating and lateral movement was as well as how comfortable and smooth he was with the puck.
He'll need his developmental steps, but this is one of those kids we should be VERY excited about. VERY!
Looking merely at stats, I'm getting quite happy about Andrei Pedan also. He's gone from 12 points in the OHL last year (his rookie year in NA) to 35 points already this year. He's also a big boy (6'4), and it seems like he plays with an edge as well, as he's 5th in the OHL in PIM (148 so far). He's probably still a few years away - born in July' 93 he's still not eligible for the AHL next year - but as a project, he might become very interesting down the road. God knows the NYI could use a big bruising defenseman!
He is big, but he'll need to fill out a lot before he turns pro after next year. We're going to have quite the group of Russians on this club down the road...Kabanov, Pedan, and Petrov....looks pretty solid to me.
It should be denoted, however, that he was drafted as an overager and must be given a contract this summer. Otherwise, he becomes a UFA.
A kid his size takes time, but I've been convinced since the prospects camp that this kid has an NHL future of some sort. It was shocking how good his skating and lateral movement was as well as how comfortable and smooth he was with the puck.
He'll need his developmental steps, but this is one of those kids we should be VERY excited about. VERY!
what kinda concerns me is his +/-. he is the 2nd worst d-man on the team behind finn.
what kinda concerns me is his +/-. he is the 2nd worst d-man on the team behind finn.
He is actually 3rd and the guy with the worst plus minus on the team is about to become a mid first round pick. So p/m is or may be skewed and probably does not tell the story in this case.
He has really stepped up his game this year. Been an integral player for UND.
He looks like a really good prospect. Big, strong, has become a better skater, and he's always had the offensive talent, now he has the ice time and confidence to go with it. I think the WJC and second half of his freshman season really went a long way into improving his confidence heading into his sophomore year.
My mistake Although, that leads me to note that Strome went from +23 to +36 in the 2 weeks since the previous update. Not so bad, eh?
Not me at least. I have actually tried to search for a bit of news, but what comes up doesn't exactly relate to his status on the ice. Regarding that other stuff, others might find this piece from the NY Times interesting as well: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/09/sp...y-program.html
Kichton actually had even more points last year (where he, like this year, led the WHL in points among defensemen). That team had a lot more offensive firepower though (e.g. 115 point scorer Tyler Johnson), whereas Kichton leads his entire team in points this year. This is very encouraging, obviously, and he certainly looks a great find in the 5th round of the draft!
Looking merely at stats, I'm getting quite happy about Andrei Pedan also. He's gone from 12 points in the OHL last year (his rookie year in NA) to 35 points already this year. He's also a big boy (6'4), and it seems like he plays with an edge as well, as he's 5th in the OHL in PIM (148 so far). He's probably still a few years away - born in July' 93 he's still not eligible for the AHL next year - but as a project, he might become very interesting down the road. God knows the NYI could use a big bruising defenseman!
I really think Pedan looked better than Mayfield in the rookie camp scrimmage game. He looked really good. Scored a nice goal too.
2 goals for Nelson last night. Why does everyone rave about Chris Kreider, but no attention for Nelson? Whatever, I don't mind having a very underrated prospect. He looks like he's the real deal.
2 goals for Nelson last night. Why does everyone rave about Chris Kreider, but no attention for Nelson? Whatever, I don't mind having a very underrated prospect. He looks like he's the real deal.
He's even underated among us.
I hope the Isles sign him this summer, and hope he goes to the Tigers. Kabanov is going there, Nino likely will as well. If they can get Nelson and Lee there then they can be favorites for the calder.
2 goals for Nelson last night. Why does everyone rave about Chris Kreider, but no attention for Nelson? Whatever, I don't mind having a very underrated prospect. He looks like he's the real deal.
Probably because Kreider did well his first year in the NCAA, Nelson did not. First impressions are hard to live down.
Kichton has looked great. Hopefully the Isles sign him and stick him in BPort. We are severely lacking offensive d-man who have a RH shot. Would love to see how he develops in the AHL next year.
Bridgeport in general could be a very fun team to watch next season. If Brock and Lee head over, as well as Kichton and the Kirill's, we will have some major youth/talent up there. I'm assuming at least 3 of deHaan, Donovan, Ness and Katic will still be playing for the Soundtigers next year. Add Kichton to that and we have some serious talent both on the blue-line and up front next season. God forbid we have to deal with injuries, we should be able to address them rather easily.
A bit OT, but speaking of Petrov: Anyone think he would come over next year if he doesn't make the Isles out of camp? I'd love to see him in Bridgeport for a little bit, but I don't know if that's something he would consider. If that is the case, his agent needs to explain to him that playing in BP will only be a temporary thing. If his talent is legit, I'm sure it won't take long for him to earn himself a call-up.
The OHL Eastern Conference Coaches' Poll was released yesterday.
Key categories for Ryan Strome:
-finished 1st in Best Stickhandler category
-finished 2nd in Best Playmaker category
-finished 3rd in Smartest Player category
The OHL Eastern Conference Coaches' Poll was released yesterday.
Key categories for Ryan Strome:
-finished 1st in Best Stickhandler category
-finished 2nd in Best Playmaker category
-finished 3rd in Smartest Player category
I wish though they had a 'most strength and size gained' category and he was on it. We all know the kid has got skills, but he's still a kid physically.
I wish though they had a 'most strength and size gained' category and he was on it. We all know the kid has got skills, but he's still a kid physically.
I think we've discussed Dougie Hamilton before, so it's interesting to note that he finished 1st and 2nd, respectively, in the Best Offensive Defenseman and the Best Defensive Defenseman categories.
He's got 70 points this year in only 47 games. I really think Hamilton could end up being the best defenseman of that draft, and that includes Larsson. Bold statement, I know. But I think Hamilton's offensive ceiling is higher than Larsson's, while not being a slouch defensively.
I think we've discussed Dougie Hamilton before, so it's interesting to note that he finished 1st and 2nd, respectively, in the Best Offensive Defenseman and the Best Defensive Defenseman categories.
He's got 70 points this year in only 47 games. I really think Hamilton could end up being the best defenseman of that draft, and that includes Larsson. Bold statement, I know. But I think Hamilton's offensive ceiling is higher than Larsson's, while not being a slouch defensively.
I rode the Larsson and Hamilton wagon all of last year. Living in Boston, I keep tabs on Hamilton and he has really impressed. Like you've said, he's a man among boys in the OHL this year. I would have loved to add him to the organization, but what can you do?
I am very excited about Strome though, sick mitts with a mind for the game... sounds like someone we already revere on LI. Same issues too, needs to get bigger and stronger and that will open up his game.
