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09-25-2014, 03:17 PM
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Isles Finding Chemistry on Forward Lines

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...ines-1.9401333


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"As the Islanders search through their glut of forwards to find four solid trios, at least a few good pairings have emerged. There's John Tavares and Kyle Okposo on the top line for certain, the newcomers Mikhail Grabovski and Nikolay Kulemin on a possible second line and Frans Nielsen and Michael Grabner, old running mates, perhaps ticketed for a third line.

But another pairing hit the ice at the Coliseum on Wednesday that could throw a good wrinkle into any already laid plans. Brock Nelson and Anders Lee are good friends and roommates at this camp and they could potentially be two-thirds of a second line that would be an unexpected situation from when camp began last week."

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Curious. What would that look like?

Bailey - Tavares - Okposo
Conacher - Grabovsky - Kulemin
Clutterbuck - Nielsen - Grabner
Strome - Nelson - Lee

I would love something like that, but I see the lack of Cizikas and Martin infuriating some folks around here.

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Curious. What would that look like?

Bailey - Tavares - Okposo
Conacher - Grabovsky - Kulemin
Clutterbuck - Nielsen - Grabner
Strome - Nelson - Lee

I would love something like that, but I see the lack of Cizikas and Martin infuriating some folks around here.

I wouldn't be thrilled about Conacher in that key role either (basically a top six winger) or would I want either Nielsen or Nelson on the fourth line.

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Curious. What would that look like?

Bailey - Tavares - Okposo
Conacher - Grabovsky - Kulemin
Clutterbuck - Nielsen - Grabner
Strome - Nelson - Lee

I would love something like that, but I see the lack of Cizikas and Martin infuriating some folks around here.
I feel like there's a lot of options. The two 2nd lines get similar ice time.

Nielsen-Tavares-Okposo
Bailey-Grabo-Kulemin
Strome-Nelson-Lee
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck

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Curious. What would that look like?

Bailey - Tavares - Okposo
Conacher - Grabovsky - Kulemin
Clutterbuck - Nielsen - Grabner
Strome - Nelson - Lee

I would love something like that, but I see the lack of Cizikas and Martin infuriating some folks around here.
Conacher looks out of place but otherwise that's a pretty filthy four lines.

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I feel like there's a lot of options. The two 2nd lines get similar ice time.

Nielsen-Tavares-Okposo
Bailey-Grabo-Kulemin
Strome-Nelson-Lee
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck
I think Cappy has a boner for trying grabo with JT and KO. Nielsen then plays C with Bailey and Kule

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I think Cappy has a boner for trying grabo with JT and KO. Nielsen then plays C with Bailey and Kule
Yea, it's a toss up between playing him there or playing him with Kulemin. Tough call. Plus my lineup is sans Grabner.

Bottom line is, if we stick to one thing that doesn't work for any considerable time, I am going to be pissed. This roster is very flexible.

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As stated before the top pair is set in stone, the rest is up in the air. This should surprise nobody.

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Just from watching online last night, maybe some who went last night and may have noticed, Brock looks like his skating has picked up from last year.

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I feel like there's a lot of options. The two 2nd lines get similar ice time.

Nielsen-Tavares-Okposo
Bailey-Grabo-Kulemin
Strome-Nelson-Lee
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck
I would not mind this one bit. I am all in favor of Lee making this team, and all in favor of a kid line. Plus I always thought that Nielsen would excel as a winger.

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Just from watching online last night, maybe some who went last night and may have noticed, Brock looks like his skating has picked up from last year.
Brock looks stronger than last year and is fearless going to and around the net front.
Not reckless, fearless. He has good hands and will score on the rush but he will also get his share stuffing them in. Brock Nelson is a stud in the making.

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Brock looks stronger than last year and is fearless going to and around the net front.
Not reckless, fearless. He has good hands and will score on the rush but he will also get his share stuffing them in. Brock Nelson is a stud in the making.
Agree Bill, Brock looks like he will make a big leap forward.

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I would not mind this one bit. I am all in favor of Lee making this team, and all in favor of a kid line. Plus I always thought that Nielsen would excel as a winger.
You don't want grabner to make the team?

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Yea, it's a toss up between playing him there or playing him with Kulemin. Tough call. Plus my lineup is sans Grabner.

Bottom line is, if we stick to one thing that doesn't work for any considerable time, I am going to be pissed. This roster is very flexible.
I wasnt a huge fan of grabo with JT and KO last night. and i hate the thought of conacher being on one of the top 9. As crazy as it sounds I think Lee fits the best on the top line with the roster we have now. hes big and gritty and is never afraid to just fire the puck. grabo tries to be fancy with it, and he is a good face off man.

Nelson or lee on that top line for sure. second line should be grabo strome and the left wing should be BATTLED for

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Brock looks stronger than last year and is fearless going to and around the net front.
Not reckless, fearless. He has good hands and will score on the rush but he will also get his share stuffing them in. Brock Nelson is a stud in the making.

Outside of JT i have a feeling brock will be my favorite player this year. I already purchased his jersey. Mainly because you never shake your head at brock saying why did you do that.

skating deff picked up and he is solid in both zones. hat off to mister nelson. I have a feeling he will be surpassing many expectations this year.

Go Brock or go home

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You don't want grabner to make the team?
There's going to be a trade as long as Strome, Lee, and Nelson don't **** the bed. The numbers scream it. I see Grabner and Bailey at the head of that line to get moved.

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There's going to be a trade as long as Strome, Lee, and Nelson don't **** the bed. The numbers scream it. I see Grabner and Bailey at the head of that line to get moved.
Strome isn't ******** the bed just yet per se, but he's prairie doggin it at this point.

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I can already tell Conacher is going to the boneheaded move of the summer which gets compounded by Cappy refusing to scratch him... see PMB, Boyes, and Reasoner for previous examples.

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Grabo-JT-KO i think Grabo is good with these guys, cause he is a real slick passer, has speed, maintains possession, and is defensively responsible. 1st PP

Grabner-Nielsen-Kool'emon a very good defensive line. PK

Lee-Nelson-Strome the kids will be great together, i can feel it. 2nd PP

Bailey - CC - Clutterbuck 2nd PK

Martin

oh, and i want to mention how it pisses me off, when Cappy keeps the 1st PP out there for 1:40, and the 2nd unit gets 20 seconds, regardless of how good the 1st unit is doing.

he talks about trying to get guys going, so he's essentially playing the snot out of the guys that are playing like crap. this is absurd. the guys that are playing good, should get more ice time. maybe he didn't have many options before, but i think there is no excuse now.

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oh, and i want to mention how it pisses me off, when Cappy keeps the 1st PP out there for 1:40, and the 2nd unit gets 20 seconds, regardless of how good the 1st unit is doing.

he talks about trying to get guys going, so he's essentially playing the snot out of the guys that are playing like crap. this is absurd. the guys that are playing good, should get more ice time. maybe he didn't have many options before, but i think there is no excuse now.

THREE POWERPLAYS IN A ROW (2nd half of the second period) Tavares/Okposo/Nelson/Nielsen/Viz were out there for 1:30-1:40 each powerplay. The second unit got 20 seconds or less. Unacceptable in any circumstance to play 5 guys for 5 minutes in a 6 minute stretch (he didn't even take a timeout to give them a blow). To put it nicely, they weren't 'clicking' so there really was NO excuse for this.

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Nelson and Lee have ridiculous chemistry.... going back to their first rookie camp it was plainly evident. Sucks that we can't run 5 lines lol.

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oh, and i want to mention how it pisses me off, when Cappy keeps the 1st PP out there for 1:40, and the 2nd unit gets 20 seconds, regardless of how good the 1st unit is doing.
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THREE POWERPLAYS IN A ROW (2nd half of the second period) Tavares/Okposo/Nelson/Nielsen/Viz were out there for 1:30-1:40 each powerplay.
One of my top 3 complaints with Capuano. His ice time management is worse than a run of the mill juniors coach.

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Cappy just flat out has no clue how to run a PP or PK.

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At one time we were scrambling to fill jerseys with guys who were benders. Now we have problems trying to decide where we are going to plug all that wonderful potential talent into the line-up. You guys can shuffle the names like a deck of cards and come up with any random line pairings as you can, I just see the names with talent behind him, and feel an excitement I haven't felt as an Isles fan in years. Potential for long-term success--what fantastic problems we have now.

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At one time we were scrambling to fill jerseys with guys who were benders. Now we have problems trying to decide where we are going to plug all that wonderful potential talent into the line-up. You guys can shuffle the names like a deck of cards and come up with any random line pairings as you can, I just see the names with talent behind him, and feel an excitement I haven't felt as an Isles fan in years. Potential for long-term success--what fantastic problems we have now.
Yup. Feels good. Just need a coach.

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