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12-29-2011, 10:41 PM
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If someone had told me at the start of the year that the Habs would have been in 13th place at the end of December, I would not have believed you.

When is it that management tries to do something else than fire people? What are they really waiting for? Markov?

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I wonder if Tampa would be interested in trading us Roloson for Price?
Mr. Gauthier is that you?

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12-29-2011, 10:42 PM
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I thought you were in posting retirement? Or do you only choose to come out to say I told you so?

So we have Earl and now E=Ch back from the old Halak vs Price debates...who else is missing?
You likely won't get the chance to read my posts for much longer so you should savor them while they last

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That's barely over 2 games of play lmao. He had one start in the 09-10 playoffs.
LOL ...you can get knocked out of the playoffs in 4 games ..so he played in over two games (based on total ice time)... that's a HUGE SAMPLE ...

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12-29-2011, 10:43 PM
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Price is 24 y.o. at what age do goalies mature? he has great numbers for his age.
cut the guy some slack.
That's the thing. If he was 30 I'd be far more critical. But he's 24. How many goalies at that age play anywhere near Price's level IN Montreal?

Why people are comparing him to established goalies in their prime is beyond me.

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12-29-2011, 10:43 PM
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LOL ...you can get knocked out of the playoffs in 4 games ..so he played in over two games (based on total ice time)... that's a HUGE SAMPLE ...
He started 1 game and came into relief for Halak in three games...how does that qualify as a good sample size?

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12-29-2011, 10:44 PM
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I don't give two craps. JS Giguere is playing well too, and let's not forget superstar Brian Elliot, what's your point?
They are not better than Price. That's all that matters.

Price hasn't proven anything in the POs. Okay, same is true of the majority of the goalies.
Price allows bad goals, and does it every other game. Okay, same is true of ALL other goalies.
Thomas has been the best goaltender of this past two years, he allows bad goals just as often as Price.

Your arguments stink. Whatever you criticize Price for can be applied for 99% of the other goalies too.

Price is a solid goalie. He is still very young, and improving. Whether he is a franchise goalie or not is irrelevant. He is not the reason for our crappy record, he is not the reason why we lost in the POs. He is a very strong keeper that we'd be dumb to move unless it meant getting a significant return + finding a suiting replacement.

He is not having a terrific year, boohoo, it happens, to every goaltender alive.

Let it go already.
I believe he could have made more great saves. That would either make us keep a momentum, keep in the game or protect a lead. Even if that team doesn't deserve it, a team that sucked so much but were having a terrific system like some said we had with Martin, a great goalie could have done more to prevent it. I think that's what people are getting at. Is it time to finally have a team that wouldn't count so much on their goalie? Of course yes. Could the rest of the players do much more? Of course they should have. Could our GM and past GM done a better job and assembling a team? You know the answer to that. But as of this year, Price could have done a better job. And I don't think we should separate him from the rest of the team. Actually, it's pretty normal to count more on the goalie...that's about what the rest of the league is doing. Even Boston does. And that's even more relevant when your goalie is a supposed top 5 goalie. So I don't think it's out of the ordinairy to be THAT critic. We have a team right now that counts on greatness and miracles. We don't have it on a regular basis. So either we acknowledge. Either we review our expectations. But personnally, I'm a little tired to hear how a top 3/top 5 he is. Yes on potential but on actual play? And without having proven anything in the playoffs? When this board keeps mentioning it FOR EVERY SINGLE PLAYER THAT LEFT THE TEAM as the REAL test as far as a player's worth? We need to be really careful with those double standards.

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No, I woudn't make a senseless comment like that. I leave that to others like yourself.
I would have actually agreed with what you said if you expressed it correctly.

Price was great last POs. Thomas was greater. Spinning it as him losing 4 out of 5 and 4 OTs is pretty weak, and just doesn't paint the proper picture.
It's as if I won 5000$ at the casino, lost 4/5th of it, came home and told my GF I lost 4000$ instead of saying I won 1000$.

Spending time defining excellent and arguing about whether or not you'd use that word to describe his performance is, ironically, senseless.

As I said, Price had a great PO, Thomas was greater. Simple as that.

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That's the thing. If he was 30 I'd be far more critical. But he's 24. How many goalies at that age play anywhere near Price's level IN Montreal?

Why people are comparing him to established goalies in their prime is beyond me.
Because some people just like to bash and bring up stats and not look at other variables. Price is a stud goaltender that will keep growing and improving.

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LOL ...you can get knocked out of the playoffs in 4 games ..so he played in over two games (based on total ice time)... that's a HUGE SAMPLE ...
Better to be quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

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12-29-2011, 10:47 PM
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That's the thing. If he was 30 I'd be far more critical. But he's 24. How many goalies at that age play anywhere near Price's level IN Montreal?

Why people are comparing him to established goalies in their prime is beyond me.
several posters were clearly sharpening their sleeping skills during the game

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He started 1 game and came into relief for Halak in three games...how does that qualify as a good sample size?
So the sample we took represents somewhere between 25% to 50+% of a potential playoff round.

I think that's a good sample size.

Let's also not forget that he did lose his #1 spot for a reason.

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Aww look at all the Price haters having a good time.

Come on guys, let them have their collective orgasm because Price did not steal many games in the previous week or two. They will disappear eventually.

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You likely won't get the chance to read my posts for much longer so you should savor them while they last
If you talk about one specific game or one specific goal and don't add standard language like "Price had no chance on that" or "it wasn't Price's fault" old Andy calls it reviving the Halak/Price debate.

I haven't seen Halak's name even mentioned so I imagine Andy's got some old pent up hostility he forgot to release 2 years ago.

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Better to be quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
You're the fool... You can lose a round in 4 games ..you can't be giving out games like they are candy. 1 bad goal ..just 1 can change the whole series around

You guys keep making excuses..oh it's just 1 game ..oh it's just 2 games ..oh we are out .. looool

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Better to be quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
some are not stupid; they're just possessed by retarded ghosts.

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If you talk about one specific game or one specific goal and don't add standard language like "Price had no chance on that" or "it wasn't Price's fault" old Andy calls it reviving the Halak/Price debate.

I haven't seen Halak's name even mentioned so I imagine Andy's got some old pent up hostility he forgot to release 2 years ago.
Says the guy who still doesn't like Price because of the debate two years ago.

Also where did I call it reviving the old halak/price debate? I didn't refer to the reviving, I refered to the posters in those thread who were against Price then and were against him the following year until his play forced them to shutup.

I'm not at all worried because when Price gets out of his funk, you'll go back to being quiet about Price like you were a week and a half ago when he had a .920SV% and a 2.22 GAA.

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Mr. Gauthier is that you?
No.. I eat steak and I weigh more that 85lbs.

Anyway Carey Price should sign 1 year deals and get the **** out of Montreal as fast as he can.. I wonder would that make the haters happy?

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No.. I eat steak and I weigh more that 85lbs.

Anyway Carey Price should sign 1 year deals and get the **** out of Montreal as fast as he can.. I wonder would that make the haters happy?
I hope not.
it would be unwise to cave in
to those who are one dimension short of reality.

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That's the thing. If he was 30 I'd be far more critical. But he's 24. How many goalies at that age play anywhere near Price's level IN Montreal?

Why people are comparing him to established goalies in their prime is beyond me.
Well if he would be analysed as such, I don't think people would have any problems with his struggles. Problem is that this great management have thought he was already THERE since he was how old again? So maybe groom him the way Boston does it with Rask would have been a better answer? Though to be honest, I think that Boston was ready to make Rask their #1 starter last year if it wasn't for the Thomas miracles. But we were more eager to give the net to Price for some reasons. I know I would have been more patient. I would have went the most practical way especially for a goalie, ESPECIALLY in a Montreal environment.

So that's mainly the problem. We got rid of Huet and Halak. 2 fans favorites. 2 goalies who had done a fine job and 1 who made a 3rd round possible. And people can't understand why the critics are harsher on Price? I'd blame who put him in that situation.

Yet, Price did a terrific job with the Halak-fans situation last year. Maybe, the greatest amount of pressure for a player I've seen in a long time. So at this point, is it THAT dramatic to see people putting pressure on him again? An amount of pressure that is about 1/32 of what it was last year? Nobody booed or thought of booing him so far this year. And nobody can really ask for his replacement to take his job.

Price is a great goalie with the potential of being a CLEAR TOP 3 in this league. I had my doubts before season started last year. I don't have any doubts yet. But he is not there yet.

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I believe he could have made more great saves. That would either make us keep a momentum, keep in the game or protect a lead. Even if that team doesn't deserve it, a team that sucked so much but were having a terrific system like some said we had with Martin, a great goalie could have done more to prevent it. I think that's what people are getting at. Is it time to finally have a team that wouldn't count so much on their goalie? Of course yes. Could the rest of the players do much more? Of course they should have. Could our GM and past GM done a better job and assembling a team? You know the answer to that. But as of this year, Price could have done a better job. And I don't think we should separate him from the rest of the team. Actually, it's pretty normal to count more on the goalie...that's about what the rest of the league is doing. Even Boston does. And that's even more relevant when your goalie is a supposed top 5 goalie. So I don't think it's out of the ordinairy to be THAT critic. We have a team right now that counts on greatness and miracles. We don't have it on a regular basis. So either we acknowledge. Either we review our expectations. But personnally, I'm a little tired to hear how a top 3/top 5 he is. Yes on potential but on actual play? And without having proven anything in the playoffs? When this board keeps mentioning it FOR EVERY SINGLE PLAYER THAT LEFT THE TEAM as the REAL test as far as a player's worth? We need to be really careful with those double standards.
Price is not having a great year. We should be lucky enough that a bad year means a Sv% of about 915.
The rest of the team is also not having a terrific year.

Not sure what's being discussed anymore.

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The only "I told you so" part of all my posts I've made is the part where I said that people laughed when I said Martin hated young players. I bet people were really upset over that.

Also, better not acknowledge the fact I said Price was top 3-5 last season. That I said Price was a great goalie and would likely be great for years to come. I'm pretty sure none of the Price pom pom girls will get the point I was trying to make and will see this as a huge diss to their boy since you can't ever say anything remotely negative on Price on these boards.

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The only "I told you so" part of all my posts I've made is the part where I said that people laughed when I said Martin hated young players. I bet people were really upset over that.

Also, better not acknowledge the fact I said Price was top 3-5 last season. That I said Price was a great goalie and would likely be great for years to come. I'm pretty sure none of the Price pom pom girls will get the point I was trying to make and will see this as a huge diss to their boy since you can't ever say anything remotely negative on Price on these boards.
Considering I said along with others that he played a bad game tonight earlier in this thread , I'd consider this a gross exaggeration.

There is a big difference between saying Price played bad this game vs Price is costing us the season and trade him.

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