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12-31-2011, 01:22 PM
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I don't understand why it's so difficult for people to grasp this concept.

I disagree with every word of your Avery assessment Khelvan, but couldn't agree more that this is a personality clash that finally came to head.
Khelvan is this boards best purveyor of bold faced sarcasm.


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I love the fact that you can flame me all you want, thereby baiting me into responding with flaming of my own, and only I will receive an infraction.

Regardless, you are the prototypical fool who cannot see the writing on the wall. Slather is pretty good at trading and terrible at free agent signing (this might be going over your head because I'm certain you were jumping for joy with Redden, Drury, Gomez, and Rosy and are still angry at their departures).

Artem Anisimov's ability to score goals and feel free is nothing more or less than adequate. We either continue paying a par player top-line money and, because height is everything to Sather, sign him for $39 million for 6 years in two years, or we trade him for the final piece of this year's Stanley Cup puzzle.

And let me remind you that Wolski and Fedotenko are crap (call the latter "captain clutch" all you want).
How appropriate, a Sean Avery fanboy crying "unfair double standard!"

Look, he just cleared waivers for the third time this year. Twice on the way down - and once on the way up, when he would have been available for half price. That means that on three different occasions 29 other GMs have had a chance to claim a player who, according to you, is better than somewhere around 30-40% of the forwards on the best team in the east. They could have had him without giving up a single asset - for nothing more than absorbing the less than one year remaining on his contract (which comes at a lower real cash cost and with a smaller cap impact with each day that goes by). And yet NOT ONE wants him.

None of these twenty-nine different men, who are life-long hockey professionals - who get paid MILLIONS for their hockey acumen, mind you - have taken the opportunity to pick him up for basically FREE. This includes teams at the top of the league and teams at the bottom; teams with little cap room or gobs of cap room.

Not one wants him.

If Sean Avery is as good as you say, can you please explain this? I mean, if he's better than a third of the forwards on one of the two best teams in the league, why didn't any of the teams behind them take advantage of this opportunity to pick up a player of such value? Guess they're all "prototypical fools", huh?

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How appropriate, a Sean Avery fanboy crying "unfair double standard!"

Look, he just cleared waivers for the third time this year. Twice on the way down - and once on the way up, when he would have been available for half price. That means that on three different occasions 29 other GMs have had a chance to claim a player who, according to you, is better than somewhere around 30-40% of the forwards on the best team in the east. They could have had him without giving up a single asset - for nothing more than absorbing the less than one year remaining on his contract (which comes at a lower real cash cost and with a smaller cap impact with each day that goes by). And yet NOT ONE wants him.

None of these twenty-nine different men, who are life-long hockey professionals - who get paid MILLIONS for their hockey acumen, mind you - have taken the opportunity to pick him up for basically FREE. This includes teams at the top of the league and teams at the bottom; teams with little cap room or gobs of cap room.

Not one wants him.

If Sean Avery is as good as you say, can you please explain this? I mean, if he's better than a third of the forwards on one of the two best teams in the league, why didn't any of the teams behind them take advantage of this opportunity to pick up a player of such value? Guess they're all "prototypical fools", huh?
Nice post. This should really be very telling about Avery, but I guess calling someone "fatso" really goes a long way with street cred around here...

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I do not blame you for needing me to explain why Avery has not been claimed, and thus I forgive you before I explain.

The media doesn't like him because the media comprises liberal, emotional, little girls (you must love it) who will call for a full-scale police investigation if someone throws a banana on the ice when a black guy happens to be playing. Avery has done very few things wrong. He accidentally slashed Thomas. He ingeniously screened Brodeur. He pointed out that men love his sloppy seconds.

There's nothing wrong with any of that, but dunderheads will jump on the "feign moral standards in the NHL" bandwagon for no reason other than the media making it popular.
I didn't say a word about the media. Nor did I insult you (that's your specialty). I asked a very simple question: if Sean Avery is as good as you say, why did TWENTY NINE different GMs on THREE different occasions pass on the opportunity to snap him up basically for free?

Still waiting on your answer.


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I didn't say a word about the media. Nor did I insult you (that's your specialty). I asked a very simple question: if Sean Avery is as good as you say, why did TWENTY NINE different GMs on THREE different occasions pass on the opportunity to snap him up basically for free?

Still waiting on your answer.
Nobody on this board has the ability to argue why not one single General Manager within the league decided not to pick up Sean Avery off of waivers.......not only once, but 3 seperate times he was passed up..... Discussion over.

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Disclaimer: I don't have any problems with Avery, but his ship has sailed with this organization.


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I didn't say a word about the media. Nor did I insult you (that's your specialty). I asked a very simple question: if Sean Avery is as good as you say, why did TWENTY NINE different GMs on THREE different occasions pass on the opportunity to snap him up basically for free?

Still waiting on your answer.
Avery's reputation apparently outweighs his actual play on the ice, therefore no one wants him. Apparently, GMs are incapable of seeing beyond reputation, because all they do is read media reports.

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Avery's agent Pat Morris said there are three options for his client at this point.

The first is to accept an assignment to the Rangers farm team, the Connecticut Whale of the AHL. Avery could also sign with a KHL team and go to play in Russia.

The final option Morris is exploring for Avery would be to broker a trade to another NHL team that has been decimated by injuries.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/story/?i...me=nhl-rangers

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I do not blame you for needing me to explain why Avery has not been claimed, and thus I forgive you before I explain.

The media doesn't like him because the media comprises liberal, emotional, little girls (you must love it) who will call for a full-scale police investigation if someone throws a banana on the ice when a black guy happens to be playing. Avery has done very few things wrong. He accidentally slashed Thomas. He ingeniously screened Brodeur. He pointed out that men love his sloppy seconds.

There's nothing wrong with any of that, but dunderheads will jump on the "feign moral standards in the NHL" bandwagon for no reason other than the media making it popular.
Wow!

That's a new one. Avery's career has been undone by the "liberal media".

You can't make this stuff up.


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Sean should start applying to some new jobs online. I'm sure fashion outlets will take him on somewhere.

I used to work retail if he needs a rec.

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I didn't say a word about the media. Nor did I insult you (that's your specialty). I asked a very simple question: if Sean Avery is as good as you say, why did TWENTY NINE different GMs on THREE different occasions pass on the opportunity to snap him up basically for free?

Still waiting on your answer.
I didn't say you brought up the media. I said that the media's perception of Avery is the reason the GMs are afraid of taking him.

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I do not blame you for needing me to explain why Avery has not been claimed, and thus I forgive you before I explain.

The media doesn't like him because the media comprises liberal, emotional, little girls (you must love it) who will call for a full-scale police investigation if someone throws a banana on the ice when a black guy happens to be playing. Avery has done very few things wrong. He accidentally slashed Thomas. He ingeniously screened Brodeur. He pointed out that men love his sloppy seconds.

There's nothing wrong with any of that, but dunderheads will jump on the "feign moral standards in the NHL" bandwagon for no reason other than the media making it popular.
This! THIS!

How could I not see it?? It's not just Torts ruining Sean's glorious career, it's the MEDIA! The all-powerful media, which each team in the NHL must answer to. It was right there, all along.

But, friend, do you think Torts is just an example of media influence, or has he actually spread his hate & vitriol to the media, thereby killing Sean's career? Or do both simply hate him for separate reasons, and only now are they coming together to form a "perfect storm" of Sean Avery hate?

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I didn't say you brought up the media. I said that the media's perception of Avery is the reason the GMs are afraid of taking him.
The media? How about the other GM's being fully aware of what transpired in Dallas? Or the other GM's having the consideration for their current roster players not to bring in a guy who is universally disliked by the majority of the players in the league?

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The media? How about the other GM's being fully aware of what transpired in Dallas? Or the other GM's having the consideration for their current roster players not to bring in a guy who is universally disliked by the majority of the players in the league?
Sean has been a model citizen since his time in Dallas. The players all love him (except for that scrub Valiquette). Where are the links that show he's done something wrong, or that the players have nothing but respect & admiration for him?? There are none!

This is all due to Torts.
(And the media)

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Sean has been a model citizen since his time in Dallas. The players all love him (except for that scrub Valiquette). Where are the links that show he's done something wrong, or that the players have nothing but respect & admiration for him?? There are none!

This is all due to Torts.
(And the media)
You're not good at the whole "sarcasm" schtick. Say what you will about the "huge Dallas controversy" that transpired, but Avery made the right decision in pointing out Phaneuf's settling for Avery's sloppy seconds. There is nothing wrong with his behavior.

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Avery's reputation apparently outweighs his actual play on the ice, therefore no one wants him. Apparently, GMs are incapable of seeing beyond reputation, because all they do is read media reports.
Its not a reputation, it's a not perception, its not a misunderstanding or a conspiracy. Its reality. Sean Avery is a *****, on and off the ice.

Some malcontent personalities are worth the risk. Sean Avery is not. Kudos to him though, his NHL shelf life was about as long as humanly possible considering what a nuisance he's been his entire career. He even got an absurd payment out of his circus act.

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reading this support and defense of avery is sickening. its mind blowing to see people blame the media for why avery doesnt have a spot in the nhl

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The Whale payroll is almost as much as the Isles now ..... Imagine if Wolski got sent down although I imagine some one would claim him off waivers

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You're not good at the whole "sarcasm" schtick. Say what you will about the "huge Dallas controversy" that transpired, but Avery made the right decision in pointing out Phaneuf's settling for Avery's sloppy seconds. There is nothing wrong with his behavior.
What are you talking about? I'm agreeing with you! Though I disagree about his actions in Dallas, even he admitted they were wrong there. And when Sean admits he is wrong, he must be, right?

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Its not a reputation, it's a not perception, its not a misunderstanding or a conspiracy. Its reality. Sean Avery is a *****, on and off the ice.

Some malcontent personalities are worth the risk. Sean Avery is not. Kudos to him though, his NHL shelf life was about as long as humanly possible considering what a nuisance he's been his entire career. He even got an absurd payment out of his circus act.
To say that he's anything at all on and off the ice is complete guesswork unless you know the guy, which I suppose isn't impossible. I've heard from many first hand accounts that Avery is actually a very nice guy. I'm not saying that he is for sure or in my eyes, as I don't have any experience with him myself, but give this kind of crap a rest unless you know for yourself and even then its your opinion, or perception as you say - not a fact, not "reality."

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The Whale payroll is almost as much as the Isles now ..... Imagine if Wolski got sent down although I imagine some one would claim him off waivers
I believe there's an AHL salary cap, and I believe we're pretty close to it lol

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no one hates this move more than the HBO producers of 24/7...btw...

Did anyone else notice how forced it was in part 2 when they note that Avery hasn't played in awhile?

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no one hates this move more than the HBO producers of 24/7...btw...

Did anyone else notice how forced it was in part 2 when they note that Avery hasn't played in awhile?
I doubt HBO care, he's hardly been in any of 24/7 and wasn't seen at all in pt3 that I can remember.

In fact you could go as far as saying that, for both 24/7 and this season, Sean Avery has been irrelevant....

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I believe there's an AHL salary cap, and I believe we're pretty close to it lol
I believe AHL salary cap is on the amount an individual can be paid on the AHL part of a two way contract.....it has no bearing on a one contracted player collecting NHL money in the minors.

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