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3 Stars & GBR: Game 36 @ Florida Panthers

View Poll Results: 3 Stars
Carl Hagelin 54 46.96%
Henrik Lundqvist 87 75.65%
Ryan Callahan 14 12.17%
Brad Richards 62 53.91%
Ryan McDonagh 9 7.83%
Brian Boyle 3 2.61%
Brandon Dubinsky 53 46.09%
Michael Del Zotto 42 36.52%
Ruslan Fedotenko 2 1.74%
Dan Girardi 2 1.74%
John Mitchell 1 0.87%
Derek Stepan 1 0.87%
Anton Stralman 4 3.48%
Stu Bickel 2 1.74%
Other 7 6.09%
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12-31-2011, 03:11 PM
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Sorry buddy, it's the truth.
Based on what? Not reality. Laugh all you want, you just sound even stupider.

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Based on what? Not reality. Laugh all you want, you just sound even stupider.
In what world does Sean Avery do what Rupp does there?

In the imaginary world some of the Avery cult lives in.

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12-31-2011, 03:31 PM
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In what world does Sean Avery do what Rupp does there?

In the imaginary world some of the Avery cult lives in.
What are you talking about? In what world does Sean Avery stick up for a teammate? Only his entire tenure here. What are you even trying to debate? For the third time now, let's see if you can pick it up this time, is that if Sean Avery was the guy who grabbed someone who isn't a fighter, regardless of whether or not he just cheap shotted one of our players, and started pounding his face while he was on the ice, people would be talking about what a filthy scum bag Avery is.

I have no issue with what Rupp did. Because it's hockey and not the vagina monologues. But I just think that the double standard with this type of stuff is funny.


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12-31-2011, 03:36 PM
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What are you talking about? In what world does Sean Avery stick up for a teammate? Only his entire tenure here. What are you even trying to debate? For the third time now, let's see if you can pick it up this time, is that if Sean Avery was the guy who grabbed someone who isn't a fighter, regardless of whether or not he just cheap shotted one of our players, and started pounding his face while he was on the ice, people would be talking about what a filthy scum bag Avery is.
Except Sean Avery would not have grabbed the guy and started fighting him. Avery doesn't do that. What don't you get? Avery has never been a guy who does stuff like that.

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12-31-2011, 03:40 PM
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Except Sean Avery would not have grabbed the guy and started fighting him. Avery doesn't do that. What don't you get? Avery has never been a guy who does stuff like that.
Right. Gotcha.

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Except Sean Avery would not have grabbed the guy and started fighting him. Avery doesn't do that. What don't you get? Avery has never been a guy who does stuff like that.
This is simply wrong. He has done it. I have watched him.

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This is simply wrong. He has done it. I have watched him.
I don't even think Avery is physically capable of doing what Rupp did.

And i've never seen Avery do anything of that sort. Does he stick up for his teammates? I never argued that he doesn't. I said he wouldn't have done what Rupp did to Kopecky.

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12-31-2011, 07:50 PM
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Ah so few understand....Great post...What I wouldlove next game is for Rupp to go after Kopecky again and not fight Barch or whoever they dress...Send the message to him again!
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And I agree with what you say. Rupp should go after Kopecky again and not bother with Barch until after that is done.

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If Kopecky didn't sucker punch Del Zotto no one would be talking about the cross check. The cross check that Campbell hit Gaborik with early in the game was worse. Kopecky's helmet came off? Big ****. That just proves it was a glancing blow. If you bash someone directly in the face with a cross check their helmet won't come off. You'll knock out teeth or break bones.

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12-31-2011, 08:02 PM
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I don't even think Avery is physically capable of doing what Rupp did.

And i've never seen Avery do anything of that sort. Does he stick up for his teammates? I never argued that he doesn't. I said he wouldn't have done what Rupp did to Kopecky.


Oh yeah, Avery really made him pay. Totally comparable to what Rupp did last night


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12-31-2011, 08:47 PM
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He just sucked you into an Avery argument

You already lost

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Oh yeah, Avery really made him pay. Totally comparable to what Rupp did last night
What Avery did in that video was probably more admirable than what Rupp did to be honest. Rupp grabbed a guy he knew he could pound, am I suppose to be impressed?
Avery, not a big guy or good fighter, dropped them with a guy that should have beat his ass. Looked to me like his teammates appreciated it alot more than you did...

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What Avery did in that video was probably more admirable than what Rupp did to be honest. Rupp grabbed a guy he knew he could pound, am I suppose to be impressed?
Avery, not a big guy or good fighter, dropped them with a guy that should have beat his ass. Looked to me like his teammates appreciated it alot more than you did...
Don't get me wrong, I appreciated it... But IMO these things are less about honor and more about sending a message. What Rupp did was not honorable, but you better believe Kopecky will come out on Thurs with his tail between his legs because he knows our guys will pummel him if he steps out of line again.

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And Rupp, a big guy and big fighter, dominated a guy who cheapshotted his teammate. Two completely different situations.

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And Rupp, a big guy and big fighter, dominated a guy who cheapshotted his teammate. Two completely different situations.
Avery stuck up for Gaborik after nobody else would. Avery has stuck up for even Christensen the guy who called him out. Please Avery sticks up for his teammates and would have gone right after Koepecky.

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I don't think Avery would have done what Rupp did.

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I saw a number of replays but couldn't tell. Did Hagelin get a stick on his goal or did the pass bounce off him into the net? The guy on NHL Network said it went off him.

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I saw a number of replays but couldn't tell. Did Hagelin get a stick on his goal or did the pass bounce off him into the net? The guy on NHL Network said it went off him.
Pretty sure he got his stick after a nice pass from Cally. I may be wrong though.

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When will it end? This team is in 1st place with Avery playing not even half the games, and yet people STILL are going to bring him up? He's done, irrelevant. Cannot wait until he's gone for good.

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Pretty sure he got his stick after a nice pass from Cally. I may be wrong though.
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When will it end? This team is in 1st place with Avery playing not even half the games, and yet people STILL are going to bring him up? He's done, irrelevant. Cannot wait until he's gone for good.
This team could go 98-0 without him next season, and he will still get mentions on a regular basis. He is THAT polarizing of a figure. He has been defecated on by the league for so long, that I can understand why his supporters go to such great lengths to defend him, but his play this year hasn't warranted a spot. For the record, I have been a HUGE Avery fan when he was first brought over. He gave the Rangers the spark they lacked. Now, he is the odd-man out who makes too much money on a team full of gritty, talented spark-plugs up against the salary cap. I don't wish ill on Avery, but his time in New York is over. I appreciate what he did for the Rangers (I think he had a huge hand in rejuvenating a team that looked complete soft and lost), but he just isn't useful with the glut of bottom-6ers the Rangers have right now.

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I don't think Avery would have done what Rupp did.
Except you've already been proven wrong, and now you're changing your tone from "Avery doesn't do stuff like that" to "did I say Avery doesnt stick up for his teammates? I never argued that"

And I distinctly remember Avery jumping someone after they hit a ranger (I'm thinking Staal, but not sure) from behind. Anyone remember the specifics? It was 2-3 years ago, I think. That's the same exact thing that Rupp did. Making a guy answer the bell for a dirty play on a teammate.

Disclaimer: this is not part of some agenda to promote the notion that this team needs Avery. Its just me defending what I feel the truth of the matter is. Avery is such a polarizing character that people go to extremes to make their argument. The reality is somewhere in the middle: Avery certainly is a good player, and he's NHL-caliber, but he's not a necessity for this team to win and with our depth throughout the lineup this season, he really doesn't have a spot and in his most recent chance, he didn't do much to stand out positively (not that he was bad at all), or make a case for himself to stick around. If he made 900k less, he'd probably still be with the team as the 13th forward and be in and out of the lineup. But his salary is simply too high for that kind of 4th line role player, despite the talent he does show from time to time.


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This team could go 98-0 without him next season, and he will still get mentions on a regular basis. He is THAT polarizing of a figure. He has been defecated on by the league for so long, that I can understand why his supporters go to such great lengths to defend him, but his play this year hasn't warranted a spot. For the record, I have been a HUGE Avery fan when he was first brought over. He gave the Rangers the spark they lacked. Now, he is the odd-man out who makes too much money on a team full of gritty, talented spark-plugs up against the salary cap. I don't wish ill on Avery, but his time in New York is over. I appreciate what he did for the Rangers (I think he had a huge hand in rejuvenating a team that looked complete soft and lost), but he just isn't useful with the glut of bottom-6ers the Rangers have right now.
Agree 100%. I will miss him, but the ship is sailing.

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The team is winning. Is Avery being out of the lineup the only thing people ***** about? No it isn't. Are people suggesting that if the team
Is winning *****ing is off limits? If so, then complaining about line combinations and other lineup decisions should cease. Either we as fans have the right to discuss what will make the team even better than it is or not. And that includes the absence of Sean Avery.

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The team is winning. Is Avery being out of the lineup the only thing people ***** about? No it isn't. Are people suggesting that if the team
Is winning *****ing is off limits? If so, then complaining about line combinations and other lineup decisions should cease. Either we as fans have the right to discuss what will make the team even better than it is or not. And that includes the absence of Sean Avery.
What do you think this is, a democracy?

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Except you've already been proven wrong, and now you're changing your tone from "Avery doesn't do stuff like that" to "did I say Avery doesnt stick up for his teammates? I never argued that"

And I distinctly remember Avery jumping someone after they hit a ranger (I'm thinking Staal, but not sure) from behind. Anyone remember the specifics? It was 2-3 years ago, I think. That's the same exact thing that Rupp did. Making a guy answer the bell for a dirty play on a teammate.

Disclaimer: this is not part of some agenda to promote the notion that this team needs Avery. Its just me defending what I feel the truth of the matter is. Avery is such a polarizing character that people go to extremes to make their argument. The reality is somewhere in the middle: Avery certainly is a good player, and he's NHL-caliber, but he's not a necessity for this team to win and with our depth throughout the lineup this season, he really doesn't have a spot and in his most recent chance, he didn't do much to stand out positively (not that he was bad at all), or make a case for himself to stick around. If he made 900k less, he'd probably still be with the team as the 13th forward and be in and out of the lineup. But his salary is simply too high for that kind of 4th line role player, despite the talent he does show from time to time.
In that video, show me what Avery did that is ANYTHING SIMILAR to what Rupp did.

Carcillo runs Gaborik, Avery challenges him, he accepts.

Kopecky SUCKER PUNCHES MDZ, the refs try to break everything up, Rupp says **** that, grabs Kopecky and pounds him.

How is it in anyway similar? Girardi defended Gaborik last year too, and he wouldn't do what Rupp did. There's plenty of players on this team who defend their teammates who wouldn't do what Rupp did. Dropping the gloves and fighting mutually is not the same as grabbing somebody and making them pay, largely in part because Avery is not a great fighter.

Boyle also has defended his teammates, but since he's a **** fighter he couldn't do something like that.

Changing my tone? Please. People act like I have an agenda against this guy when I was defending him last year- last year when we DIDN'T HAVE BETTER OPTIONS. Sean Avery would not, or COULD NOT, do what Mike Rupp did there. People aren't afraid to fight Sean Avery.

The fact that Avery was dragged into this in the first place is ****ing ridiculous.

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