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02-25-2012, 01:59 PM
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I'm guessing that:

1. Tallon will trade for someone none of us have mentioned
2. Many of us will be unhappy with it
3. It will end up working pretty well
The Wolski trade made me think of this post instantly. I'm really banking on #3.

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02-25-2012, 02:22 PM
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I totally understand and I agree with Tallon's decision.. I was merely asking because he was pretty productive during training camp and pre season and I was just wondering if he could've helped us this season even though he is smaller in stature?

I also meant to ask but completely forgot, is Huberdeau really going to be something special in the NHL? I mean I know we have a lot of talent in the system but is he going to be a 1st line player? I don't really watch minor league or junior hockey, so I don't get to see many prospects play.
Could he have helped us some? Absolutely. But the #1 priority should be to look out for this kid. He's too weak to play in the NHL right now. IMO it's inevitable that he would've gotten hurt bad. It's not even like we have a bunch of Chris Neil's that he could have played with on the same line to give him some protection.

How good Huberdeau becomes will in part be determined by how strong he gets IMO. The more muscle he adds, the more he can be successful in getting to the blue paint like he likes to do and coming out with the puck in the corners. I think he has the potential to be a 1st line forward. But it's hardly guaranteed that he will become that.

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02-25-2012, 02:30 PM
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From what I've seen of highlight videos and the WJC. Huberdeau's strength is assists, which is why he's played Center mostly. The Seadogs have him listed as Left Wing currently, so I don't know. He has good eyes. Goals usually follow when he passes the puck to someone.
Actually Huby is playing center recently.

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The Wolski trade made me think of this post instantly. I'm really banking on #3.
Me too.

Panthers are 3-7 in the SO this year and are the worst team in the shootout since the lockout... by quite a wide margin.

Wolski is touted as a shootout specialist.

If the only thing Wolski contributes is 2 SO goals... and one of those leads to a win... and that extra point is the one that wins the division...

For a third round pick? Which has a 10% chance of producing an NHL player?

Where do I sign?

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02-25-2012, 02:57 PM
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Actually Huby is playing center recently.
We need him at center, not at wing.

This team will never be a contender with Weiss as our #1 center.* Too small. Too inconsistent.

Bjugstad may be that guy one day, but can we wait two years?


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02-25-2012, 03:19 PM
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We need him at center, not at wing.

This team will never be a contender with Weiss as our #1 center.* Too small. Too inconsistent.

Bjugstad may be that guy one day, but can we wait two years?


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Yeah, and it would take more than 2 years for Bjugstad to work his way up to the #1 center spot. I really hope Huby gains a lot of strength though over the next couple years. I cringe at the thought of two small top 6 centers, and I don't want to see it anymore. If he could get a lot bigger, I think Huby could be a very effective #1 center. Even if it means moving Bjugstad to wing down the line, if Huby excels at center, then I'm fine with that.

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02-25-2012, 05:56 PM
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Could he have helped us some? Absolutely. But the #1 priority should be to look out for this kid. He's too weak to play in the NHL right now. IMO it's inevitable that he would've gotten hurt bad. It's not even like we have a bunch of Chris Neil's that he could have played with on the same line to give him some protection.

How good Huberdeau becomes will in part be determined by how strong he gets IMO. The more muscle he adds, the more he can be successful in getting to the blue paint like he likes to do and coming out with the puck in the corners. I think he has the potential to be a 1st line forward. But it's hardly guaranteed that he will become that.
Also, I saw a lot of him in preseason adn he likes to go to the dirty areas. He's a long term investment and there is no need to risk his health when he's underweight.

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02-25-2012, 06:02 PM
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Needing a #1 center to have size is pretty unnecessary requirement. Claude Giroux, Crosby, Plekanac, and Datsyuk are all under 6 feet. Then guys like Tavares, Couture, and Backstrom are others I'd hardly consider big. Of course I'd prefer to have a guy with Malkin or Getzlaf's size but we can succeed with smaller centers if they have skill.

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02-25-2012, 06:10 PM
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Great8, maybe you can answer this, idk.

Who does the organization consider as untouchables?
Also, of all the free agents signed this offseason, do they value some much more than others? For example, are the Chicago boys basically untouchables?

I brought this up because we were just recently talking about the amount of love Kopecky is getting from this organization despite the fact that it's not really warranted. He's playing way too many minutes.

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Needing a #1 center to have size is pretty unnecessary requirement. Claude Giroux, Crosby, Plekanac, and Datsyuk are all under 6 feet. Then guys like Tavares, Couture, and Backstrom are others I'd hardly consider big. Of course I'd prefer to have a guy with Malkin or Getzlaf's size but we can succeed with smaller centers if they have skill.
Yeah but the problem is if you have two small top 6 centers. It definitely makes a difference if one of them is big and better yet uses his size, especially in the playoffs.

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Yeah but the problem is if you have two small top 6 centers. It definitely makes a difference if one of them is big and better yet uses his size, especially in the playoffs.
Lets get a #1 center first...

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Lets get a #1 center first...
I agree, but if Huby becomes that then likely Weiss will stay as #2. I suppose that is still a ways away though. Just thinking ahead.

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02-25-2012, 09:12 PM
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I'm guessing that:

1. Tallon will trade for someone none of us have mentioned
2. Many of us will be unhappy with it
3. It will end up working pretty well
I win at internet.

Do it again Tallon.

Do it again.

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02-25-2012, 09:21 PM
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I win at internet.

Do it again Tallon.

Do it again.
Haha, well done ATF. Called it 100%.

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I win at internet.

Do it again Tallon.

Do it again.



lol - great prediction!

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Habs Inside/Out ‏ @HabsIO Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Plekanec willing to waive no-trade clause: agent dlvr.it/1FVQsz
Retweeted by James Mirtle

Wow. If I was Tallon, I would be jumping all over this. The only problem is that he's making 5 mill/year for the next 4 years, which isn't really that bad. If we had a Weiss/Plekanec 1a/1b, that would be pretty deadly.

I know it's unlikely, but what do you think we'd have to give up for him?

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02-26-2012, 11:20 AM
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Habs Inside/Out ‏ @HabsIO Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Plekanec willing to waive no-trade clause: agent dlvr.it/1FVQsz
Retweeted by James Mirtle

Wow. If I was Tallon, I would be jumping all over this. The only problem is that he's making 5 mill/year for the next 4 years, which isn't really that bad. If we had a Weiss/Plekanec 1a/1b, that would be pretty deadly.

I know it's unlikely, but what do you think we'd have to give up for him?
I dont like that $20 million he is owed over the next four years, and I would rather have more size down the middle.

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Plekanec willing to waive no-trade clause: agent dlvr.it/1FVQsz
Retweeted by James Mirtle

Wow. If I was Tallon, I would be jumping all over this. The only problem is that he's making 5 mill/year for the next 4 years, which isn't really that bad. If we had a Weiss/Plekanec 1a/1b, that would be pretty deadly.

I know it's unlikely, but what do you think we'd have to give up for him?
Probably because of Price Last time he called him our for a bad pass. Looks to me like there is not good chemistry at all

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I really think that DT will get us a top 6 forward by tomorrow's deadline. Santo was pretty invisible last night playing on the 3rd line as a winger. Have to think he's gone soon.

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It's been reported that talks about an extension with Garrison are not going well.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports...tinel+Blogs%29

"A reporter on Hockey Night in Canada last night said that contract talks between impending UFA Jason Garrison’s agent and the Panthers are not going well. I put in call to Garrison’s agent and left a message. "

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02-26-2012, 01:17 PM
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We're about to hit 1000 posts and that's the limit for thread-size on HFBoards in order to maintain site stability. As the trade deadline is tomorrow, let's just use the other trade thread to continue all talk.

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