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02-09-2012, 07:36 AM
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To L'équipe Nationale de France: Viacheslav Fetisov(25) - 343, 407, 531
To Kimberley: Valeri Vasiliev(72), 243, 371, 499

+47, -100, -36, -32

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02-09-2012, 07:48 AM
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To L'équipe Nationale de France: Viacheslav Fetisov(25) - 343, 407, 531
To Kimberley: Valeri Vasiliev(72), 243, 371, 499

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No. The difference between Fetisov and Vasiliev is much bigger than the pick swap here. Bugg, why do you insist on this nonsense?

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No. The difference between Fetisov and Vasiliev is much bigger than the pick swap here. Bugg, why do you insist on this nonsense?
Yeah, this one impacts the balance of the draft. I'm going to say it needs to be seriously reworked.

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02-09-2012, 08:53 AM
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I don't get why you'd want to deal Fetisov for Vasiliev. They're both Russian..chemistry is ice, but onlyets you so far.

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02-09-2012, 09:17 AM
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I don't get why you'd want to deal Fetisov for Vasiliev. They're both Russian..chemistry is ice, but onlyets you so far.
I think the point is, to get better picks, since Bugg used to much ammo trading up.

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02-09-2012, 09:44 AM
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Yeah the difference between Fetisov and Vasiliev is much greater than that. Going to need to rework that one for sure.

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02-09-2012, 11:34 AM
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might look to trade down as my list is quickly getting decapited , nothing sure but want to preparei n case.

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02-09-2012, 11:37 AM
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might look to trade down as my list is quickly getting decapited , nothing sure but want to preparei n case.

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I might want to trade up from my pick in the 290s. Send me a PM, I'll get back to you in an hour or so.

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02-09-2012, 11:39 AM
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might look to trade down as my list is quickly getting decapited , nothing sure but want to preparei n case.

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So I take it our trade is off then?

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Is the Mr Bugg-EB Fetisov trade officially vetoed? The first pick Mr Bugg was going to get is OTC.

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02-09-2012, 11:41 AM
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So I take it our trade is off then?
not yet

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not yet
Ok. So I'm guessing you have one name and you're hedging your bets if that player is taken.

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02-09-2012, 12:31 PM
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Is the Mr Bugg-EB Fetisov trade officially vetoed? The first pick Mr Bugg was going to get is OTC.
For now, yes that is vetoed. Enough people have issue with it that it needs to be re-worked. EB's pick is on the clock, and he said he'd be back in a little while, probably closer to 5:15 EST.

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02-09-2012, 02:00 PM
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To L'équipe Nationale de France: Viacheslav Fetisov(25) - 343, 407, 531
To Kimberley: Valeri Vasiliev(72), 243, 371, 499

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No chance. The different between the defenders is too large with the remaining picks the way they are posted.

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02-09-2012, 02:14 PM
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The vetoed trade was not OTC when it was proposed, right?

Edit: No beat the clock by a few hours so no penalty

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02-09-2012, 02:41 PM
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Was that Fetisov trade a joke? Probably the last straw for me, i'm voting no trading next year. Both parties are to blame for even proposing such a laughable trade.

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02-09-2012, 02:57 PM
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Was that Fetisov trade a joke? Probably the last straw for me, i'm voting no trading next year. Both parties are to blame for even proposing such a laughable trade.
Mark, don't allow yourself to be trolled by Bugg. Trading is an integral part of the ATD; it is virtually impossible to get the team you really want without it. The trade committee does its job. What does it matter to you if people annoy us with this nonsense? No imbalanced trades have actually gone through.

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02-09-2012, 03:21 PM
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Mark, don't allow yourself to be trolled by Bugg. [B]Trading is an integral part of the ATD; it is virtually impossible to get the team you really want without it. The trade committee does its job. What does it matter to you if people annoy us with this nonsense? No imbalanced trades have actually gone through.
I find this hard to believe.

Sure, this is only my second go-round with these things, but have the winning teams really benefited on a consistent basis solely through trading?

Has there ever been a trade-free ATD? If so, we should do a roster comparison. To me, it seems all these trades do is muck up the draft board and raise blood pressure amongst those of who you care enough to immerse yourself in all this nonsensical wheeling and dealing.

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02-09-2012, 03:56 PM
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Big no to that trade and anything close to it, that's ridiculous and I don't see the sense in trading Vasiliev for Fetisov either...

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02-09-2012, 05:48 PM
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Mr Bugg and I I've been discussing a deal he initiated since round 5, and I have refused at least half a dozen similar proposal he gave me. Perhaps I'm underrating Fetisov, perhaps I'm overrating Vasiliev, perhaps that the fact that having Fetisov instead of Vasiliev (who's the perfect #1 defenceman for Dominik Hasek) change the way I have to build my defensive core. Although Fetisov is no question ask the better player of the two by a fair margin, I need to move Moose Vasko up to play first pairing with Fetisov, and I'm not really in love with the idea. I have no players selected on my second line yet, which I will have to build with 270, 307, 334 (IF I take three forwards in a row) which will end up being one of the worst 2nd line of the draft.

I won't be lying, if I accepted that deal, is that I thought I could still manage something good, and at the end I think I could build a better team, but people have to at least understand my point of view, and that this proposal would of been a great steal for me if it had been made in round 1, but in round 8 it screw up the planning I had made of my team. All in all, I honestly see it as a small gain for me, and not the huge 'deal of the century', people are complaining about.

Why is Mr Bugg wanted to do it on his side? You ask him.

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02-09-2012, 06:38 PM
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Hell no to the Bugg/EB trade.

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02-09-2012, 07:31 PM
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02-09-2012, 07:33 PM
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Nalyd still needs to confirm but if he does, it's fine

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The condition is just on Benchbrawl, so yeah, I confirm.

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How can there be a condition when the pick is OTC?

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