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01-01-2012, 07:26 PM
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...I believe Niederreiter also made racial slurs to Kadri

It's probably a Swiss thing (snobby attitude) who knows but Kadri refused to shake his hand after a tournament game. Kadri wouldn't mention what was said, but he felt bad that he stooped down to his level and refused to shake niederreiter's hand.

anyway, what happens on the ice should stay on the ice. I guess the only thing the linesman should have done was to give him an unsportsmanlike penalty (That would be the end of it) instead of being a baby and reporting it.

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01-01-2012, 07:27 PM
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The punishment should be one of Montreal's players slamming him through the boards the next time he has the puck.

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01-01-2012, 07:42 PM
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01-01-2012, 09:04 PM
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I think it would be a positive thing to never hear the "N" word again, but if we did that, we'd have to outlaw rap music.
So wheres the problem?

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01-01-2012, 10:25 PM
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2-game suspension. The NHL can't have this type of behavior. I don't care if something's "in the moment" or not. This reflects very poorly on the NHL (if they choose not to respond to it)-a league that quite frankly doesn't have much going for it against the other 3 major professional sports leagues. Player conduct usually be significantly better among hockey players is one of the few things it has over the others.

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01-01-2012, 10:30 PM
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He should have to be traded to the Isles!

I mean, who wants to play here?!

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01-02-2012, 12:15 AM
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After watching the way the refs and linesmen have refereed the Isles games I would have to hear the audio in order to believe the linesman. Barch got a game misconduct, that's enough punishment.

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01-02-2012, 12:17 AM
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Generally not a fan of policing words, but the NHL is well within its rights to punish Barch, an employee of the league, as they see fit. They're a private institution and they have to protect their image and I'm guessing they will come down hard on him.

Interesting situation we have here though. You literally have something that's socially acceptable for some and socially unacceptable for others. What would the NHL do if Wayne Simmonds said this to PK Subban? Please don't misunderstand, not defending Barch, just pointing out the absurdity of the 'rule' (if you can call it that) that is arbitrarily applied.

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01-02-2012, 03:25 AM
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hes not even talking to shanny.. he has a conference call with colon clueless about this today..

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01-02-2012, 07:48 AM
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I don't think he should be suspended, I don't even think he should be fined although I can understand the league slapping him with a fine.
I can only imagine the **** that gets said during scrubs none of it pleasant or kind is the league going to start giving out penalties just for words? Its a fine line and one that could get out of hand...
It's a tough call no doubt buti don't think it should warrant a suspension.

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01-02-2012, 07:55 AM
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Well, when he called the penalty I would assume he has to explain the penalty.


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...I believe Niederreiter also made racial slurs to Kadri

It's probably a Swiss thing (snobby attitude) who knows but Kadri refused to shake his hand after a tournament game. Kadri wouldn't mention what was said, but he felt bad that he stooped down to his level and refused to shake niederreiter's hand.

anyway, what happens on the ice should stay on the ice. I guess the only thing the linesman should have done was to give him an unsportsmanlike penalty (That would be the end of it) instead of being a baby and reporting it.

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01-02-2012, 08:27 AM
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This whole thing is dumb.

First off.. the article doesnt even indicate what was said.. if anything.

How could we say what his punishment should be?

Secondly.. why are the officials the only one reporting this? Where is it written that THEY impose penalties on what is being SAID on the ice? I think they should be considered with the RULEBOOK and making consistent calls, and not being involved in the dumb **** which is said from player to player.

Put mics on all the players for one game, Im sure you will hear stuff which is far worse than what was supposed said. Just because its that word, now the league is getting involved? Gimme a break.

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01-02-2012, 10:37 AM
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The article makes it a very easy decision for me...Nothing should be done. Move along.

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A Monetary fine and that is it... In the heat of the moment words get said, Hockey is not Soccer where racist remarks are common throughout the games and attacks occur.

We dont need Al Sharpton here

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01-02-2012, 11:11 AM
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A Monetary fine and that is it... In the heat of the moment words get said, Hockey is not Soccer where racist remarks are common throughout the games and attacks occur.

We dont need Al Sharpton here
Oh, thank God! Anything but that.

I basically agree with most of what's been said. If any penalty, it should only be a fine. But like others said, this discussion should have never happened. Apparently Subban didn't even hear the comments!

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I haven't made my mind up one way or another, but I want to phrase this question.


What if YOU went to your co-worker and called him the N word? What would your boss do or say? How do you think Human Resources would react?

The NHL is Human Resources and PK is a co-worker.


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01-02-2012, 02:24 PM
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I don't think you can draw a fair comparison because when I go to work fights don't break out or any of the other things that go On during a hockey game.
Should it have been said? No but neither should 95% of what is said during a game. It's the nature of a competitive sport peopleare going to trash talk and they can't start giving out penalties for what is said, it would a constant stream of penalties.




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I haven't made my mind up one way or another, but I want to phrase this question.


What if YOU went to your co-worker and called him the N word? What would your boss do or say? How do you think Human Resources would react?

The NHL is Human Resources and PK is a co-worker.


Your thoughts?

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I haven't made my mind up one way or another, but I want to phrase this question.


What if YOU went to your co-worker and called him the N word? What would your boss do or say? How do you think Human Resources would react?

The NHL is Human Resources and PK is a co-worker.


Your thoughts?
Am I black or white?

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I don't think you can draw a fair comparison because when I go to work fights don't break out or any of the other things that go On during a hockey game.
Should it have been said? No but neither should 95% of what is said during a game. It's the nature of a competitive sport peopleare going to trash talk and they can't start giving out penalties for what is said, it would a constant stream of penalties.

You do have a point on fights not breaking out. Their is trashing talking and then stuff beyond trash talking like the N word. That in my opinion takes it to far.



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Am I black or white?
Does it matter? It should be offensive both ways. Black saying it to black, white saying it to black.


I cannot decide what the punishment should be. But if Wiz got 2 games for signaling a obscene sex act, then where does calling a black person the N word fall?

If nothing else the league needs to show that using that kind of language on the ice will not be tolerated.

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You do have a point on fights not breaking out. Their is trashing talking and then stuff beyond trash talking like the N word. That in my opinion takes it to far.





Does it matter? It should be offensive both ways. Black saying it to black, white saying it to black.

No, it shouldn't matter, but I was making a point. In our politically correct society, white's cannot use the word, blacks can. It's unfortunate, but if a white person used it and they were called in to HR, and a black person used it and they were called in to HR, they would most definetely be treated differently.
It seems the folks that find racism around every corner, are the same people that have created different standards, depending on race. Those folks don't like to hold blacks to the same standards as whites. It's a sad state of affairs, but it's just the way it is.

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You do have a point on fights not breaking out. Their is trashing talking and then stuff beyond trash talking like the N word. That in my opinion takes it to far.



Does it matter? It should be offensive both ways. Black saying it to black, white saying it to black.


I cannot decide what the punishment should be. But if Wiz got 2 games for signaling a obscene sex act, then where does calling a black person the N word fall?

If nothing else the league needs to show that using that kind of language on the ice will not be tolerated.
Of course it matters. Apparently, its only offensive under certain conditions.

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01-03-2012, 08:35 AM
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anyone remember what chris simon's punishment was when he used a racial slur against mike grier? i dont recall but it should probably be that just for the sake of consistency.

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Apparently it wasn't as 'obvious' as some thought.

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As we said on #MvsW show -- every indication that Barch said like "did you slip on a banana peel?" to PK after fall. That's the "slur"

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seriously that was a slur? i had assumed he used the n-bomb.

thats no more racist then using the expression 1 foot in the grave 1 on a banana peel.

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