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01-04-2012, 10:48 PM
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Rednal Sinav
I believe he was Aki Berg's childhood idol.

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You must be wondering who this outstanding player was, with an excellent shot at NHL stardom that was never realized. His name:

Rednal Sinav
The star of legendary Icelandic club team the Trolls.

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The star of legendary Icelandic club team the Trolls.
So you've heard? I'm impressed! References to them are very hard to find on google and yahoo. I had to use a couple of underground search engines to piece his story together.

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Not to be entirely rude VanI, but to be honest all this sounds like to me is you wanting to be the person to unveil people and no one else.
??????????? Just because I want him not fly off on some SOLO mission for the entire year, to instead honbour tradition and draft them like ANYBODY ELSE or - by ALL MEANS - post on the Undrafteds thread NOW, next week, the week after, the week after that, just NOT when the drafts begin, because we have never had anyone do that?

I am ALL FOR EQUAL treatment here! Let's draft the deserved off the board picks and post the rest that are deservingon the Undrafteds thread after the depth drafts are done.

How the hell does anythimng I say sound like I want 'no one else' to unveil off the board picks. I am the guy appluading off the board picks, and those who make them! I am ALL FOR increasing the database of all-time talent bios.

Gawd, I so don't understand your post at all. Are you sure you aren't talking about someone else?

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Wow, you are indeed insane 70's. But it's a great idea! And honestly, why the hell would anyone care if you do this on 365 days? Really ... If you feel like doing this a year long project, just do it! I would even say post all this in a brand new thread!

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I'm not sure how good the 365th player on your list will be, but the first one on your list was a great read! At this point after all these drafts, statistics probably won't find you much steals, but a player like Sinav is someone you can just imagine how good he would of been against greater opposition.

Really looking forward to some great biographies and stories!

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01-05-2012, 04:42 PM
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I have two full teams of undrafted players I'm going to begin to post (not sure how long it will take, but certainly less than a year ).

I've tried to focus on players who have never been profiled before on the ATD board. These are also not necessarily the best remaining players, simply my long list organized and filled out into two teams.

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Team 1 Left Wings:

Denis Dupere


Played in 1975 All-Star Game
80 G, 99 A, 179 PTs in 421 GP

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Dupere was a defensive specialist who had a knack for winning face-offs and could effectively deceive goaltenders with his strong wrist shot off the wrong foot.

In 1974, Dupere joined the Washington Capitals where he scored twenty goals and fulfilled a dream as the Caps choice for the All-Star game. "I was shaking when I hit the ice," he recalled. "Seeing all those guys?Lafleur, Dryden, Esposito, Orr. You can't beat a thrill like that!"
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Dupere was a penalty killing specialist and extraordinary faceoff expert for over 400 NHL games with 4 organizations. A large left winger at 6'1" 200lbs, Dupere was a very clean player, picking up only 66 penalty minutes in his 8 year NHL career.
Bohuslav Ebermann


Captain of Czechoslovakia at the 1980 Olympics
Member of the Czech Hall of Fame
55 points in 66 WC Games

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The Czech heroes against Sweden were goalie Vladimir Dzurilla and fast skating, hard shooting Bohuslav Ebermann

Tim Ecclestone



Player in 1971 All-Star Game
126 G, 233 A, 359 PTs in 692 GPs (6 30 pt seasons)

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Formed outstanding forward penalty-killing duo with Bill Clement for Atlanta in 1975-76 and 1976-77 ... Was a personal friend of motorcycle daredevil Evel Knievel
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It was at that time that the fledgling St. Louis Blues traded for his rights along with a handful of other recruits. Ecclestone had a reasonable degree of success during his three-plus seasons with the club. He potted a modest share of points each year, especially during the playoffs, and covered his own end with a competent touch.

By 1970-71, the Blues' management became unhappy with Red Berenson's alliance with the NHL Players' Association. Ecclestone dabbled with the collective as well and, as a slap on the wrist, received a one-way ticket to the Motor City. With the Wings, he enjoyed the club's chemistry but grew to hate the fact that the team was a perennial loser. By 1973 he had had enough. He requested a trade that was accommodated with a transfer to Toronto.

With the Leafs Ecclestone was unable to establish any kind of momentum, thanks, for the most part, to shoulder and rib injuries that kept him on the sidelines. As a result, his rights were traded to the Washington Capitals who, in turn, passed him along on the same day to the Atlanta Flames.

In Georgia, Ecclestone found a role for himself as a veteran forward who was sufficiently versatile to fill gaps wherever they emerged. He kept up the pace until he injured his knee in 1978. At that point the club recruited him to serve as an assistant coach?a position he maintained until the club moved to Calgary.

Bill Touhey




10th in Assists 1931
65 G, 40 A, 105 PTs, 273 GP

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Described as a solid checker who could chip in on offense, left winger Bill Touhey played in 273 NHL games, most notably in his hometown with the original Ottawa Senators. He 65 goals, 40 assists and 105 points in his career.


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Max Kaminsky



22G, 34A, 56P in 130GP

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Max Kaminsky was clever center, excelling defensively while showing promise for offensive upside.
Espen Knutsen


Played in 2002 All-Star Game
111 pts in 207 GP (best 53 pts in 66 gp)

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The slick playmaking center started to play the game at the age of six and later became a huge fan of Wayne Gretzky and the Edmonton Oilers. Eventually he became too good for Norway after scoring 30 goals in 31 games for league champion Valerengen in the 1992-93 season at the age of 21. He became the glamour boy of Norwegian hockey after being named player of the year in 1994. He recorded nine points at the 1990 World Junior Championship and was named his team's best player in five of seven games at the 1991 World Juniors.

An injury prevented him from playing in the 1993 World Championship. Because of his size, 5'11" and just 168 pounds, he was susceptible to being hit hard in the corners.

Knutsen signed with Djurgarden for the 1994-95 campaign while continuing to play for Norway at the World Championship tournaments at the end of the season. The 1994 Olympics was a minor disappointment for Knutsen. The Norwegian national team, playing in its own backyard in the town of Lillehammer, managed only one win in the Olympic tournament and finished second last.

Following two more trips to the World Championships (1996-1997), Knutsen became the first Norwegian ever to lead the Swedish Elite League in scoring during the 1999-2000 regular season. Then he signed with the NHL expansion Columbus Blue Jackets for the 2000-01 season and has finished in the top three in team scoring in his first two seasons with the team until injuries plagued him throughout the better part of the 2002-03 season.
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He would return to Sweden soon thereafter, but he gave the NHL another shot in 2000, signing with the Columbus Blue Jackets. He proved to be a strong offensive player on a weak expansion team. Knutsen was doing nicely but his career spun into mediocrity as he was devastated by a tragedy in Columbus. Espen's slap shot was deflected into the stands, striking 13 year old Brittanie Cecil, who was attending her first hockey game. She died two days later. The death led to the NHL's decision to erect safety netting at all its arenas.

The accident was just that - an accident, and a freak one at that. But Knutsen took the death hard, and, thanks largely to injuries, Knutsen soon disappeared from the top level of hockey.
Janne Ojanen



All Time Leader in Points and Assists in the SM-Liiga
1995 World Championship Gold Medal
1988 Olympic Silver Medal

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Centre Janne Ojanen was a fine offensive player who played 98 NHL games for the New Jersey Devils between 1988-89 and 1992-93. He was better known as domestic and international player in his native Finland.

Thomas Rundqvist



1991 World Championship All-Star
1987, 1991 World Championship Gold Medal
1991 Elitserien Guldpucken
Captain of Swedish National Team (1989 - 1993?)
Member of IIHF Hall of Fame

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Rundqvist made his debut with Tre Kronor in 1981 and the next year he played in his first World Championship. His partners on offense were Hakan Loob, a former teammate from Farjestad, and Mats Ulander of AIK.

One of the highlights of his career was Sweden's triumph at the Vienna World Championship in 1987 when Tre Kronor captured the gold thanks to the Soviets' 2-1 win over Czechoslovakia that put Sweden in first place. But in Rundqvist's opinion, Tre Kronor's success in Finland in 1991 was even more impressive. In Finland, Sweden won the gold without losing a single game.

Rundqvist's most memorable goal is the one he scored against Czechoslovakia in an overtime period at the 1993 World Championship in Germany. The goal put Sweden into the finals, where they were eventually beaten by Russia. Rundqvist scored many important goals playing for Austria's Feldkirch, where he moved with teammate Bengt-Ake Gustafsson in 1993. Significant among them were the ones that enabled the Austrians to defeat Dynamo Moscow in the Euroleague tournament.

Rundqvist is a double world champion, triple champion of Sweden and the winner of five national championships in Austria.

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Jonas Bergqvist



1987, 1991, 1998 World Championships Gold Medal
1994 Olympic Gold Medal
1996 Elitserien Guldpucken

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His devotion to the game made Bergqvist one of the most beloved hockey players in his country.
As an attacking forward, Bergqvist was also quite capable of playing defense, something not all forwards are willing to do. On the ice, he was a fierce competitor, ignoring bruises and black eyes. Bergqvist holds the record for playing 272 official games for Tre Kronor and eclipsed the record of his senior Swedish national teammate Thomas Rundqvist (267 games) at the 1998 World Championship in Zurich when, on May 10, Tre Kronor beat Team Canada by a score of 7-1. On that memorable day, his teammates presented Bergqvist with a jersey bearing the number 268, while Bergqvist himself marked the occasion by firing a third goal into the Canadian net.
Among his most memorable goals scored with the nationals, Bergqvist himself singles out the goal that he scored in the finals of the 1991 World Championship against the USSR, when he scored within seconds of coming onto the ice, giving Tre Kronor a 1-0 lead.
Among his achievements, Bergqvist has an Olympic gold medal from the 1994 Lillehammer Games; he played in three Canada Cup tournaments; and he won three World Championship titles?the last in Switzerland in 1998. That victory put Bergqvist and Mats Sundin on a par with the famous Sven "Tumba" Johansson, who for decades was the only Swedish hockey player to become a three-time world champion. In the games he played for the Swedish national team, Bergqvist scored only 69 goals, but coaches were eager to have him play for Tre Kronor because of his competitiveness and his loyalty to team play.
Blair MacDonald



1979 WHA Second Team All-Star
Played in 1980 NHL All-Star Game
10th in Pts 1980
Captain of Edmonton 1980
91 g, 100a, 191 pts in 219 NHL gps
336 pts in 476 WHA gps

Gretzky's "Rob Brown"

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Right-winger Blair MacDonald spent parts of four seasons in the NHL beginning in 1979-80. He played most of his pro career in the WHA but was best known for his scoring exploits during his brief time on the same line with Wayne Gretzky.

Born in Cornwall, Ontario, MacDonald was taken 86th overall by the Los Angeles Kings in 1973 after scoring 63 goals for the Royals of the QMJHL. He was named to the league's second all-star team then started his pro career with the Edmonton Oilers of the WHA.

After scoring 21 goals as a rookie in 1973-74, MacDonald was a consistent offensive threat in the league for another five seasons. In December 1976 he was traded to the Indianapolis Racers and was a top point producer through the 1977-78 season. MacDonald returned to Edmonton and notched consecutive 34-goal seasons and was named to the WHA second all-star team in 1979.

The clever winger remained with the Oilers when they joined the NHL in 1979-80. He scored 46 goals while playing on one of the NHL's most exciting lines with Wayne Gretzky and Brett Callighen. He dropped to 19 goals the next season and lost his job alongside Gretzky to young Finnish star Jari Kurri. Prior to the trade deadline in March, 1981, MacDonald was traded to the Vancouver Canucks where he was a decent worker until early in the 1982-83 schedule.
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For the 1979–80 campaign, Edmonton joined the NHL as part of the WHA merger, and MacDonald would have the finest year of his career. Riding the playmaking wizardry of Gretzky, he would finish the season with 46 goals and 48 assists for 94 points, a total good for 10th in the league. He was also selected to represent the Oilers at the 1980 NHL All-Star Game. With just 6 penalty minutes all season, he finished 4th in balloting for the Lady Byng Trophy as the league's most gentlemanly player, an award ultimately won by Gretzky.
Al McDonough



Played in 1974 NHL All-Star Game
73 g, 88 a, 161 pts in 237 NHL GP
139 pts in 200 GP

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Right-winger Al McDonough was a clever goal scorer in junior and the minors who enjoyed one big NHL season. He played over 200 big league games and was a solid worker on the power play and could handle checking assignments efficiently.
Reg Sinclair



Played in 1951 and 1952 All-Star Games
49 G, 43 A, 92 pts in 208 GP

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In Manhattan Sinclair made an immediate impact scoring 18 goals as a rookie and playing in the NHL All-Star Game. The following year Sinclair hit the 20-goal plateau and once again represented the Broadway Blueshirts at the All-Star game. Despite his scoring prowess, his time in New York was over. The Rangers traded Sinclair and Johnny Morrison to the Detroit Red Wings on August 18th 1952 in exchange for All-Star defenseman Leo Reise, Jr.

With the Red Wings Sinclair was unable to duplicate his previous production and only scored 11 goals and 23 points. Sinclair played three playoff games with Detroit and contributed 1 goal. The playoff contests ended up being Sinclair's last games as a professional player as he retired following them.

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Thommy Abrahamsson



1973 Elitserien Guldpucken
95 Pts in 203 WHA GPs

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Thommy was one of Sweden's greatest players of the 1970s. North American fans had a chance to witness that for themselves when he and twin brother Christer signed with the WHA's New England Whalers for the 1975-75 season.

Christer was plagued by injuries and never really amounted to much in the WHA and never made it to the NHL. Thommy's subtle brilliance was on display for New England area fans, starring on defense for three seasons in the WHA (scoring 28 goals and 95 points in 203 WHA games) before returning home to Leksands for three more years. He returned to the Whalers in 1980-81, who of course by now had joined the NHL. Injuries limited him to 32 NHL games where he scored 6 goals and 17 points.

I mentioned that Thommy was a star player in Sweden before coming to North America. He represented Sweden at five world championships as well as the 1972 Olympics. He was the Swedish Player of the Year in 1973. A small furor erupted when the Swedish Ice Hockey Federation purposely left Thommy off of the 1976 Canada Cup squad. Other players threatened to boycott the team unless he was included, but he diffused the situation by encouraging his teammates to go without him.
Leo Bourgeault



1928 Stanley Cup Champion
44 pts in 307 gps

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Defenceman Leo Bourgeault was a solid positional player who contributed offensively on occasion. Although he was only 5'6", he was not bullied by larger opponents. The reliable backliner was traded to the New York Rangers for cash in January 1927 and remained there for nearly five years. During his first full year on Manhattan, 1927-28, he scored seven goals and helped the club win its first Stanley Cup. Bourgeault continued to work in New York until he was sent to the Ottawa Senators for cash in December 1930.

Bourgeault's tenure in Ottawa was difficult as he was not utilized consistently and even spent the 1932-33 season with the Can-Am League's Bronx Tigers. In February 1933 he was part of the package sent to the Montreal Canadiens for Marty Burke.
Magnus Johansson


11 G, 18 A, 29 Pts in 71 WC Games
2010 Elitserien Guldpucken

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Timo Jutila



1992, 1994, 1995 World Championship All-Star
Captain of Finland National Team 1993-1999
1995 World Championship Gold Medal
Member of the IIHF Hall of Fame

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A tiny defensemen at just 5'7" 175lbs, Timo Jutila made up for his lack of size with great mobility and good puck movement and hockey sense. Jutila was never overly enthused by the rugged North American style of play. Despite this the Buffalo Sabres liked his high skill level and drafted him 68th overall in the 1982 Entry Draft.

A proud Finn, Jutila was already something of a legend in Finland by the time he was drafted by the Sabres. Jutila was a standout junior player. He earned Silver and Bronze medals in the 1981 and 1982 World Junior Championships, respectively. He was so good that he was the youngest player ever in the Finnish Elite League, debuting at age 16 with his hometown Tappara Tampere, and helped the team capture the league championship in 1982.

In total he played 561 games with Tampere, racking up an amazing 435 points. Surprisingly he was an all star only 5 times and only once was named as the top defenseman in Finland. Jutila also spent several years playing in Sweden and Switzerland.

Jutila still embraced the Finnish national team level. He participated in two more Olympic Games, including a bronze medal performance in 1994. He participated in eight IIHF World Championship tournaments, capturing two silver medals, and was instrumental in Finland's first IIHF World Championship gold medal in 1995. Jutila also participated in the 1987 and 1991 Canada Cups.

In total Jutila participated in 246 national team games, many of which he served as team captain, scoring 128 points. One of the greatest Finnish players of all time, his great devotion to the Finnish National Team got him elected to the IIHF Hockey Hall of Fame in 2003.
Bill MacKenzie



1938 Stanley Cup Champion
1941, 1942 AHL 1st Team All-Star
15 g, 14 a, 19 pts in 264 NHL gp

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Defenceman Bill MacKenzie played nearly 300 games for three different teams in the 1930s and '40s. Although he had a decent shot from the point, his main role was to play the man in his own zone and move the puck up to his forwards.

The Winnipeg native played junior with the local Elmwoods before spending a year with the senior Montreal AAA. In 1932-33, he looked solid as a rookie with the Chicago Black Hawks. After signing as a free agent with the Montreal Maroons, he spent a little over a year stabilizing their blueline. Mackenzie also toiled for the Canadiens and the New York Rangers before returning to Chicago in a deal for Marty Burke in December 1937.

The veteran rearguard tried to sort the Hawks' struggling blueline then was as shocked as everyone else in hockey when they left their poor regular season behind and won the Stanley Cup. After playing 19 games for the Hawks in 1939-40, Mackenzie spent the rest of his playing days in the AHL.
Mikhail Tatarinov



1990 World Championship Best Defenseman
1990 World Championship All-Star

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Mikhail Tatarinov was just hitting his prime in Russia when he came over to the National Hockey League in 1991. Tatarinov had just come off of a 11 goal, 21 point campaign in 44 games in Soviet League play, a season in which he was named as a USSR First Team All Star.

Also in 1990 Tatarinov represented his country at the World and European Championships. He scored 3 goals and 11 points in 10 games en route to being named the best defenseman at the Championships. He was also named to the tournament all star team.

International success was not foreign for Mikhail. He was a World Junior Championship all star in both 1985 and 1986, as well as being named the WJC's best d-man in 1986. In all he competed in 3 World Juniors and one World Championship. He also competed in Rendez Vous '87 and the 1991 Canada Cup.

Despite his solid play in International competition, Tatarinov was not well liked by the Soviet hockey authorities, especially Red Army head coach Viktor Tikhonov. Mikhail was a wild personality who marched to his own drummer. The Soviet hockey system punishes players who were deemed to be too individualistic and not fully team oriented.

Mikhail, who counted Philadelphia Flyers goon Dave "The Hammer" Schultz as his idol, also had a reputation as a bit of a dirty player in Europe.

"He is fearless. There are players eight and 10 years older who are afraid of him in the Elite League. They try to avoide him on the ice," wrote Soviet journalist Igor Kuprin.

In the end Tatarinov's back forced him to retire prematurely.

Tatarinov possessed a cannon-like shot with good offensive instincts. He had some trouble adjusting to the NHL game after years in Russia. It took him a while to adjust to the smaller ice surface which forced him to rush his on ice decisions. He was also a willing participant in physical battles, although wasn't big enough to dominate most NHL players. Despite his offensive upside and his feistiness, Tatarinov was an adventure in his own end. Often he was a spectator more than a participant when the puck was in his zone.

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So far, just one overlapping player

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Goalies

The pool of goaltenders not yet selected in an ATD is very shallow

Ron Tugnutt



Played in 1999 All-Star Game
33rd in NHL Career Saves (Highest Available)
1st in GAA 1999
Made 70 saves in a 3-3 tie with Boston on March 21 1991

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He was selected 81st overall by the Quebec Nordiques in 1986 and was a solid backup for the club during his first three pro seasons. He was the first stringer in the early '90s when the club declined and was often one of the few bright lights on the team.

In March 1992 he was traded to the Edmonton Oilers where he was a solid back up to Bill Ranford. Tugnutt also played four games for Canada at the 1993 World Championships. A few weeks later he was claimed by the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim in the Expansion Draft. The steady netminder played well in 28 games before he was acquired by the Montreal Canadiens to provide insurance behind Patrick Roy.

After spending the entire 1995-96 season with the AHL's Portland Pirates, Tugnutt returned to the NHL with the Ottawa Senators. Playing the best hockey of his career, he and partner Damian Rhodes backstopped the club to the playoffs in 1997 and 1998. The next year he led the NHL with a 1.79 goals against average and took part in his first All-Star Game. The next year, he was sent to the Pittsburgh Penguins in return for Tom Barrasso and played 53 games for the expansion Columbus Blue Jackets in 2000-01. Tugnutt recorded four shutouts and 22 wins while playing a key role in the team's solid 71-point debut. The Scarborough native played two seasons with the Blue Jackets before being acquired by the Dallas Stars prior to the 2002-03 season.
John Garrett



1977 WHA 1st Team All-Star

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With his shot at the NHL all but non-existent in the Hawks organization, Garrett signed with the WHA's Minnesota Fighting Saints. It was a great move for John. He not only got a hefty pay increase but also became a workhorse goalie in a league of higher caliber than the usual minor leagues.

"The WHA was good for me. They didn't pay much attention to defence. The good defencemen were well paid to stay in the NHL, so you had the John Arbors and Rick Smiths, guys who would the 5th or 6th defencemen in the NHL, and they were first or second on WHA teams."

Despite the weak defense, Garrett gained respect as a strong goaltender who would often play the bulk of the games. In the WHA he played in 323 career games, playing almost .500 hockey with a record of 148-151-15. He had 14 shutouts (including a league high 4 in 1976-77) and a career 3.52 GAA.

Garrett played 6 strong years in the WHA - almost three full seasons with Minnesota before a stint with the Toronto Toros, 2 years with the Birmingham Bulls and one final season with the New England Whalers. The Whalers claimed Garrett as a priority selection when the team merged with the NHL in 1979.

Garrett went on to help the Whalers for 2 and 1/2 seasons in the NHL. Though his stats are less than impressive, they aren't indicative of his play. Garrett played strongly, especially in the Whalers first NHL season when they made the playoffs.


One of the most famous stories involving John Garrett came during the 1983 All Star Game. Garrett was acquired by the Canucks less than a week prior to the game. However Richard Brodeur, the Canucks number one goalie and all star representative, suffered a broken eardrum courtesy of a Dan Daoust wild shot. As a last minute replacement, Garrett was asked to fill in for the Campbell Conference All Stars despite playing the whole first half in the Wales Conference.

Garrett had a great game too, and was the favorite to win game MVP honors, which of course earns you a brand new car, except a guy named Gretzky put on a goal scoring clinic in the third period. Gretzky's 4 goals in one period instantly became all star legend.
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His next stop was the Toronto Toros of the same loop, and eventually with the same team when they were transplanted to Birmingham where they became the Bulls. It was there that "Chi Chi" (or "Cheech"), as he was called, came into his own. He was voted to the First All Star team in 1977 but slipped in the standings along with his team in 1977-78. It was during his stint in Alabama that John Bassett embarked upon his "Baby Bulls" project, ignoring the age restrictions of the NHL and drafting fuzzy-faced kids to man his arsenal. It prompted one writer to describe Garrett as "shell-shocked" under those arrangements! Often it was only his netminding heroics which kept the scores respectable!

Wherever he played he was popular with his teammates and the press. His quick wit and keen sense of humour kept his mates relaxed and often in stitches. Whether it was while he was with the New England Whalers (the NHL version was called the Hartford Whalers) or the Quebec Nordiques, compliments follow were continually directed his way.

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I agree the goalies are super shallow right now... I think I have two that are even better.

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Danny Cox





10th in Points 1929
47 G, 49 A, 96 PTs in 319 GP

Versatile, played centre, wing, defence, (he even served as an emergancy linesman one game)

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Hec Kilrea was great on the line, although the lion's share of the honors went to Danny Cox
Dieter Hegen



Member of the IIHF Hall of Fame
39 G, 21 A, 60 Pts in 106 World Championship GP
23 Pts in 33 Olympic Games
Second all-time goal scorer of the 1.Bundesliga/DEL (behind Erich Kühnhackl)

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He was a member of the German 1984 Canada Cup and competed in five Winter Olympics in 1984, 1988, 1992, 1994 and 1998. His appearance at the 1998 Olympics made him, along with Raimo Helminen (Finland) the third and fourth hockey players to ever compete at five Winter Olympics, after Udo Kießling (Germany) and Petter Thoresen (Norway).
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Named best left wing in German history by German Ice Hockey News readers. ... Served as captain of German national team from 1996 until 1999
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Already as a seventeen years old, it was clear that Dieter Hegen would become one of the greatest German players of all times. Young Hegen in his first season scored 60 goals and added 64 assists for 124 points in only 42 games with ESV Kaufbeuren's 2.Liga Süd affiliate. More than ready for the elite level, Hegen joined the senior squad in the elite 1.Bundesliga. He didn't look out of place the slightest bit, scoring 54 goals and totalling 89 points in 43 games. The strong play of the rookie player attracted the attention of North American scouts; the Montreal Canadiens drafted him 46th overall in
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Mikko Makela



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The talented forward scored 16 goals as a rookie in 1985-86 and showed an ability to play solid defensive hockey. The next year he notched 24 goals and helped the Isles reach the Patrick Division finals. Makela's finest year was 1987-88 when he played on Team Finland at the Canada Cup and then recorded personal bests of 36 goals and 76 points. During the late '80s, the Islanders declined and Makela found himself traded to the L.A. Kings. Prior to the 1990-91 season, the tricky winger was sent to the Buffalo Sabres where he scored 15 goals and was utilized in a checking role much of the time.

Makela returned to Finland with TPS Turku in 1991-92 and promptly led the league with 70 points in 44 games and was named the top player in the country. The respected veteran also played for his country at the 1992 Albertville Olympics and helped them win silver at the World Championships a few weeks later. Two years later, he moved to Sweden's Malmo IF then helped Finland win bronze at the 1994 Lillehammer Olympics and silver at that year's World Championships.
Art Throop

I don't know much about him, but wherever Wikipedia received the statement "The revived league still had some great stars like Albert Kerr and Art Throop, but many of the players got better offers from the Canadian leagues in late December and the team lineups were patched together at best to complete the season" has me intrigued

He had 24 pts in 18 PCHA games in 1914-15

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Throop appeared better able to go the route than any of the other forwards and worked the hardest
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Throop, the speedy Tecumseh forward player of last season, left for the coast to join the New Westminister team
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None of the coast players who are in the East will be missed as Throop, Nighbor, and Kerr will be much stronger than were Gardner, MacDonald, and Prodgers
He may have killed another player on the ice:
Throop's Defence:
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Not sure if he's anything...


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I agree the goalies are super shallow right now... I think I have two that are even better.
Definitely.

I left off Mylnikov, Belosheiken, and Melanson (who I had suggested to VanI in the AA, but upon further consideration, I'm glad we didn't go with him) as they were drafted last year. I'll profile a handful of guys who were picked last year, but not this year after I finish my 2nd team off tomorrow.


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I don't really know if he belongs here but since this is the undrafted thread I guess it can't hurt to give some props to the players I had respect for.

Scott Thornton LW 6-3 220 lbs

942 games 144 goals 141 assists 285 pts
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Had some good seasons in San Jose even though we all know why.42 pts and 26 goals , 36 pts and 19 goals during the dead puck era all the while getting 100 PIMs like he almost always did.

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Though he had decent skating ability - strong and balanced - he was not fast. He was smart positionally on the defensive side.

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A bit of an eyebrow raiser , Alexandre Daigle

Had three 51 pts seasons and a 42 pts season.Three 20 goals season ( 26 , 20 , 20 )
Also had a 37 pts in 47 games season

He's also famous for probably being the biggest bust of all-time by average joes , even though he's just the most well-known , because he clearly still had a career compared to other real bust.

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With 300 pts in 488 games , might be time for Joffrey Lupul to make his appearance.He is also currently 5th in NHL scoring.

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Definitely.

I left off Mylnikov, Belosheiken, and Melanson (who I had suggested to VanI in the AA, but upon further consideration, I'm glad we didn't go with him) as they were drafted last year. I'll profile a handful of guys who were picked last year, but not this year after I finish my 2nd team off tomorrow.
those aren't any of my three either. one has never been mentioned, one has been mentioned once.

Melanson is a guy who I thought would eventually float to the top of my list if I gave him time, but it just never happened.

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A bit of an eyebrow raiser , Alexandre Daigle

Had three 51 pts seasons and a 42 pts season.Three 20 goals season ( 26 , 20 , 20 )
Also had a 37 pts in 47 games season

He's also famous for probably being the biggest bust of all-time by average joes , even though he's just the most well-known , because he clearly still had a career compared to other real bust.
Thornton is a solid mention, but I'm not sure about Daigle. Offensively he might be in the top-15 available post-expansion players. But, he was soft, had a bad attitude and was incredibly bad defensively. Despite decent point totals, the guy actually has the worst adjusted +/- per game of all-time.

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ugh, I have a busy weekend.

- tabulate my 5 sets of votes for the AA draft (BenchBrawl, get me goalies and spares and three more defensemen, please, it would help a lot)
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If Dieter Hegen did all that as a center, it would still be fairly easy to pass on him just thanks to his competition level in Germany. but as a LW, definitely intriguing.

He has 85 points in 146 international games.

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let me just add that the first goalie I'm going to take is the only modern goalie left to play at an above average level (based on sv%) maintained over an acceptable number of games. The top-10 in GP all had career sv% below average. If you play 800 games at 3 points below average, maybe that's still a good career, but not if you do it for just 325. Basically, he's the only NHL goalie I think is worthy of recognition right now. If we held another draft and someone got to him before me, I'd go bonkers at the thought of having to take anyone else.

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VI - thoughts on Rednal Sinav?

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Thornton is a solid mention, but I'm not sure about Daigle. Offensively he might be in the top-15 available post-expansion players. But, he was soft, had a bad attitude and was incredibly bad defensively. Despite decent point totals, the guy actually has the worst adjusted +/- per game of all-time.
He also played on the worst team of all-time ( or very very close to it ) Come on , he wasn't THAT bad.

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