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01-02-2012, 02:15 PM
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Germany still does a better stadium game....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mgUl...eature=related

I really wish the NHL would allow the crowd to get closer to the action in these games. I don't see how it's possible in a soccer stadium yet the NHL can't do it for their football/baseball stadium games.

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I really wish the NHL would allow the crowd to get closer to the action in these games. I don't see how it's possible in a soccer stadium yet the NHL can't do it for their football/baseball stadium games.
I guess this is how:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrW7S...eature=related

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Great video, thanks!

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Screw Shalke, Go Stern Des Sudens!

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Screw Shalke, Go Stern Des Sudens!


There is no less likeable club in Germany than Bayern. They think different rules should apply to them than to everyone else.

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Completely agree, 40,000 fans at the game today but you wouldn't even know it for much of the broadcast. Would of been very easy to sell 20,000 cheap standing room tickets for those willing to stand around the rink and drink beer for three hours at ice level.



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Screw Shalke, Go Stern Des Sudens!
It's Schalke.

Also, shut it

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Completely agree, 40,000 fans at the game today but you wouldn't even know it for much of the broadcast. Would of been very easy to sell 20,000 cheap standing room tickets for those willing to stand around the rink and drink beer for three hours at ice level.



That's one of the reason I watch more bowl games then the Winter Classic. It's just a rink surrounded by white tarp with an occasional cutaway to show the stadium and big crowds.

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Football stadiums would work far better for this than baseball parks, but since the NFL season is wrapping up, you have a tough go to get a rink built in a football stadium during an active season. I wish they'd stop playing in ballparks, but I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

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Well I also didn't see any flags or banners aren't they allowed in open air stadiums?

Think the crowd could have done a way better job hardly heared them.

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More details about this please.

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More details about this please.
It was for the start of the World Hockey Championships 2 years ago. Germany and the USA played the opening game which is now the 2nd biggest hockey attendance ever recorded for a game. The stadium is a soccer field but they filled up the rest of the playing field (wisely) whereas the NHL leaves really big gaps between the rink and fans.

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I actually cheered for Germany in that game.

Fantastic event for sure. Good tournament for the Germans as well!

I think the only way the current attendance record will be broken is if they allow people on the field like that at Michigan's stadium.

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I hate seeing the rink slapped in the middle of a field with a bunch tarps and equipment surrounding it. Looks like a county fair.

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So how would they do this in an NFL stadium?

I'm having trouble figuring out how they merged the normal seating and the temporary seating at pitch level?

EDIT: Guess I should've watched the YT

Don't know if it would possible to put seats in and have them be able to be high enough without blocking the sections behind them.


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So how would they do this in an NFL stadium?

I'm having trouble figuring out how they merged the normal seating and the temporary seating at pitch level?

EDIT: Guess I should've watched the YT

Don't know if it would possible to put seats in and have them be able to be high enough without blocking the sections behind them.
Soccer and football share the same length (FIFA allows a length of min 90m to max 120m and NFL IS 120 m)

Football field width is 48m and soccer field is 45m.

The NHL could do a layout as well as the Europeans has done if they cared about how silly it looks on tv for us. Are you liking the layout the Germans did or what the NHL has done the last few years?

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Soccer and football share the same length (FIFA allows a length of min 90m to max 120m and NFL IS 120 m)

Football field width is 48m and soccer field is 45m.

The NHL could do a layout as well as the Europeans has done if they cared about how silly it looks on tv for us.
No, an American football field is way more narrow. Standard soccer width is 68m. but that's beside the point as all American football stadiums have space on the sidelines which would be the extra space needed on a pitch.




The point I'm making though is I don't know how they would put seats in front of the seats you see here. It's already so low, there isn't room to allow for stadium seating with any time of slope.

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No, an American football field is way more narrow. Standard soccer width is 68m. but that's beside the point as all American football stadiums have space on the sidelines which would be the extra space needed on a pitch.




The point I'm making though is I don't know how they would put seats in front of the seats you see here. It's already so low, there isn't room to allow for stadium seating with any time of slope.
Listen, I don't want to get into nitpicking the legally defined mins and maxes of a soccer field and have us bring up thousands of examples.

"In 2007, the minimum and maximum values for soccer field sizes are:

Minimum length: 100 yards (90 meters)
Maximum length: 130 yards (120 meters)
Minimum width: 50 yards (45 meters)
Maximum width: 100 yards (90 meters)"


Going by a soccer image of the German stadium that hosted the game, they too have sideline room too since it is a multipurpose arena.

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I just feel the NHL could have done more then what you see below if the Germans could factor in for similar sizes on the length parts of their stadium.



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I'm really not concerned about the field size at all, but you brought it up...
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Again, look where the bottom row of seats are on the Winter Classic pic you just posted. How are they gonna put seats in front of them?

Unless they do what they do for the NCAA Final Four, where they start the new seats in the middle of the lower level and cover up the bottom of the deck to give it the appropriate angle. But that's a whole lot of work and money on new seats they don't need to spend.

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How the hell do you put more seats in there when the front row seats are already ground level?


I just say stop putting it in baseball stadiums, period.

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In the Arena auf Schalke (forgot which company bought the name this year) the lowest row seats are still several meters above grass level making it possible of everyone to have a good view. That's why they could add more rows without obstructing the view.

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To me, it just looks like extremely shallow seating in the video that shows them putting it together.

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I agree.

It's just too bad the game is so unpopular there.

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