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01-03-2012, 10:51 AM
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Andrew Shaw received a 3 year contract today. I think the writing is on the wall as to who will be coming up.
Seems so.

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01-03-2012, 11:09 AM
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Well to be honest, Gilbert does put himself in a really venerable position. Carcillo chips the puck in, and Gilbert slows up, puts his forearm out, and leans into him a foot or two away from the puck. But Carcillo just can't make that shove like that, very stupid.


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01-03-2012, 11:18 AM
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In the post game, Q called it a “counter hit” with both guys trying the same thing and Carcillo won. He also said it was not a head shot and he had no idea if or how they will rule. Mayers said it shouldn’t have been a penalty.

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01-03-2012, 12:11 PM
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I don't have any issue with him being suspended a couple games for the hit. It wasn't as bad as it looked but still an illegal hit. The player didn't have the puck. Also, I'd like to see Belanger get a game for his 4 minute penalty too. It seems that the league is ONLY suspending players for headshots these days, but Belanger was extremely reckless and violent with his stick. There is no excuse for that.

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01-03-2012, 12:28 PM
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Could anybody clarify for me how a potential Carcillo suspension would reflect the 23-man roster limit? Wouldn't he have to be placed on IR (I understand Kruger is more likely to go on it if he's certainly out for the next week) to open up a slot for a call-up [if nobody else is sent down]? Also, if placed on IR, he will have to wait until being activated to serve his suspension, correct?

I'd say this is normally a two or three game suspension that will result in four-five games for repeat offender status. Won't be shocked nor angered from anywhere between 2-7.

Edit: Thanks, coldsteelonice84, hadn't realized he was already placed on the IR. Edit 2: I need some sleep. threw =/= throw, Diah. Just for further clarification though, a suspended player counts against the active roster, however 18 skaters (+2 goaltenders) can still be dressed?


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01-03-2012, 12:32 PM
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Could anybody clarify for me how a potential Carcillo suspension would reflect the 23-man roster limit? Wouldn't he have to be placed on IR (I understand Kruger is more likely to go on it if he's certainly out for the next week) to open up a slot for a call-up [if nobody else is sent down]? Also, if placed on IR, he will have to wait until being activated to serve his suspension, correct?

I'd say this is normally a two or three game suspension that will result in four-five games for repeat offender status. Won't be shocked nor angered from anywhere between 2-7.
They throw him on IR right away, which opens up a spot. Once he is cleared to play, he must serve his suspension on the roster before he can play again. So the Hawks have some flexibility here.

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01-03-2012, 03:02 PM
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Carcillo suspended indefinitely per WSCR.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...uspension.html

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01-03-2012, 06:51 PM
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Like I said in the GDT he'll get 8 games. The guy is a repeat offender and will weight heavily on his suspension. It's a shame too because he's been really well behaved this season but all it takes is one boneheaded move like this to undo it all.

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01-03-2012, 07:05 PM
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The bigger issue is clearly his knee. If it is as bad as it looked and he tore his ACL as well as his MCL, he could very well have skated his last game in a Hawks sweater...

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01-03-2012, 07:18 PM
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Like I said in the GDT he'll get 8 games. The guy is a repeat offender and will weight heavily on his suspension. It's a shame too because he's been really well behaved this season but all it takes is one boneheaded move like this to undo it all.
3 suspensions in less than 20 GP is well behaved?

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01-03-2012, 07:28 PM
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3 suspensions in less than 20 GP is well behaved?
His suspsension at the start of the year was a carry over from last year..

I think Carcillo will get 4 games. Shanny is starting to back off on the suspensions after his early onslaught.

If Torres gets a fine for an elbow to Jan Hejda's head.. and then two-games for another head shot a couple games later, Carcillo won't be hit that badly with a huge suspension.


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01-03-2012, 07:29 PM
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I don't have any issue with him being suspended a couple games for the hit. It wasn't as bad as it looked but still an illegal hit. The player didn't have the puck. Also, I'd like to see Belanger get a game for his 4 minute penalty too. It seems that the league is ONLY suspending players for headshots these days, but Belanger was extremely reckless and violent with his stick. There is no excuse for that.
True, Gilbert didn't have the puck but he was doing the same thing that Carcillo was doing: Playing the man as they both got close to the puck. As Q said. Carcillo won the counter hit. If the opposite had occurred and Carcillo had bounced off of him, then how would it be ruled? It was only the fact that Gilbert fell so awkwardly into the boards that made this look bad.

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01-04-2012, 12:54 AM
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This is the NHL. There are a lot of rough plays. What would the suspension be for? Interference?
you can easy say that this was a reckless hit, not needed, 1-2 meters before the boards and Gilbert never had contact with the puck.

you can easy say that this was a fair but hard hit that should get a interference call because the puck wasn't touched

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01-04-2012, 07:29 PM
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Carcillo suspended 7 games.

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01-04-2012, 07:32 PM
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Bleh. He was probably going to miss that much with the injury anyway.

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01-04-2012, 07:33 PM
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Carcillo suspended 7 games.
damn, I guessed 5

EDIT: IMO, the argument that it wasn't "that bad" goes out the window when you slow down the video and see his arms were fully extended. It was a dirty play, and the difference between this and that hossa play from the playoffs are that Hossa actually appeared to be battling for position, where as Carcillo fully extended his arms in an obvious shoving motion.

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01-04-2012, 08:04 PM
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Bleh. He was probably going to miss that much with the injury anyway.
His suspension begins after he is cleared (health wise) to play.

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01-04-2012, 08:26 PM
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And since his injury will likely take several months to heal, plus his suspension time

That was probably the end of Carcillo in Chicago.

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01-04-2012, 08:36 PM
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Seven games? Am I the only one who thought that wasn't a bad hit? If the defender lays out Carcillo when going into the boards, its a great play. When Carcillo wins the battle, he's a disgrace to hockey.

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01-04-2012, 08:37 PM
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Seven games? Am I the only one who thought that wasn't a bad hit? If the defender lays out Carcillo when going into the boards, its a great play. When Carcillo wins the battle, he's a disgrace to hockey.
he wasn't just battling for position, it was a full out shove with arm extension and all.

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He was going to be hit anyways. So his only options are to be hit and not put up any resistance or to meet the contact and get penalized. That doesn't seem fair.

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01-04-2012, 09:00 PM
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I wonder if WGN will keep his radio show on the air.

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His suspension begins after he is cleared (health wise) to play.
Are you sure about that? The Hawks simply won't place him on the IR then!

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01-04-2012, 09:19 PM
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It's not an egregious hit. It's mostly his history/reputation that magnified this play.

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It's not an egregious hit. It's mostly his history/reputation that magnified this play.
I disagree. Dangerous play that could have caused even more injury than it did. Carcillo's a guy that plays on edge and can really have an impact when he's somewhat under control. He's begun to show recently he's incapable managing that key aspect to his game. Due to this, I think he's become essentially worthless to the Hawks.

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