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01-02-2012, 11:12 PM
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I, for one, am excited about the prospect of setting a new SH GA record. I mean, if you`re gonna be bad, you might as well be REALLY bad. Like, memorable bad.
i am actually with you on this. keep reaching for that rainbow devils!

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The Devils haven't went more than 2 games without giving up a SHG in a 20 game span. The last time they went more than 2 games was when they went 4 games. They gave one up against Washington on November 11th. After that they played Washington again, Boston, Buffalo, and Tampa bay without giving up a SHG until giving one up again November 21st against the Panthers in that game where they went from 3-0 to lose 4-3. This is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable. We're all nobody's, and can't do anything about it though.

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01-02-2012, 11:15 PM
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WE SUCK.



Wash, Rinse and Repeat *THAT*, OP.



This team is the ultimate BUBBLE Team. It's like every game is russian roulette where you don't know what you will get in the end :

A REGULATION WIN/LOSS?
AN OT WIN/LOSS?
A SHOOTOUT WIN/LOSS?


We might make the Postseason as a lower seed ultimately but if we can't fix these issues with the SHG's, it will be one-and-done.

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Boulton is hardly the problem here. It's like complaining about a hangnail while bleeding out from a gunshot wound.
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Whatever... he's not a fighter and if he is, he's not a very good one. Clarkson and Janssen are both better then him. Send his ass to the press box and bring up Zharkov on our 4th line.

Getting someone with speed on that horrible line wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Carter is playing with Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dunne.
Bring up Zharkov

Bring up Zharkov


Zharkov this....Zharkov that....

What is this OBSESSION with Zharkov????

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We might make the Postseason as a lower seed ultimately but if we can't fix these issues with the SHG's, it will be one-and-done.
It's like this. How many SHG's need to be given up to stop this? They're gonna wind up giving up TOO MANY, and destroy everything.

How many is too many? Just enough to ruin the season.

Not gonna count today. The Devils didn't deserve to win tonight period. Ottawa didn't deserve it much more, but you ask me who played worse the Devils.

We have lost AT LEAST 4 points to SHG's alone. That's 4 less regulation losses. We would have 11 regulation losses, and probably would have won in the Shootout if not for those SHG's given up. Maybe a few might have wound up going like it did tonight with an OT loss. Still 4 points! We would be ahead of Pittsburgh right now, and tied with Philly.

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Bring up Zharkov

Bring up Zharkov


Zharkov this....Zharkov that....

What is this OBSESSION with Zharkov????
it stays crunchy...even in milk.

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Here comes the negative group ready to abandon ship!

Onto Boston, should Moose get the start against them again? What do we think?

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01-02-2012, 11:24 PM
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it stays crunchy...even in milk.
Is it Peanut-Buttery?

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Here comes the negative group ready to abandon ship!

Onto Boston, should Moose get the start against them again? What do we think?
*WE* think that the Devils should get their butts back in gear and BOUNCE BACK with a big win against the Defending Stanley Cup champs who are an absolute buzz-saw right now.


THAT'S what I think.


And I think we should play Marty AGAIN. Unless you want to get blown out early.....

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01-02-2012, 11:27 PM
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I'd be ok with either goalie starting against Boston, and the decision would make sense to me either way. I just ask for no softies, please.

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Zharkov plays great D and has been unreasonably snakebitten as an NHL player. He's at least good enough to put up 10-10-20 in the NHL as a 3rd/4th line tweener, I think. Give the kid a chance and he'll shine.

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I have a buddy who is new to Hockey. Not really new, but just getting back into it. He is the one who thought Lou was getting booed at Niedermayer night. It's okay cause he hasn't followed Hockey since the Devils were a Mickey Mouse team. This dude hasn't watched Hockey in so long he associates Scott Stevens as a Capitals players.

I'm texting with him about shorthanded goals, and he don't see this as a HUGE problem. He's a racing fan. Nascar guy. So I use a racing analogy.

''This is like a driver spinning out, and hitting the wall every couple races, because he can't keep his car in control'' He liked that one.

Really though it's like a driver spinning out every few races during a CAUTION, because he can't keep his car in control.

It's called a POWER PLAY! It should usually for the most part be a clear advantage. You get power plays from the other team being penalized. The Devils have revolutionized the power play this season by making it a way that they are the ones who are penalized, and the penalized team has the advantage.

10% of our power plays probably end up shorthanded goals for the other team. It seems like it might be more. We'd have to find out how many times this season we had a man advantage first.

Also over 11% of goals given up this season were shorthanded. Out of 107 none shootout goals given up we've given up almost 12% due to being shorthanded.

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Lemaire used 5 forwards on the PP, and they still didn't give up this many shorties. That's because Rolston could play defence, but we don't have him anymore. Maybe we should use Zajac back there. He can distribute the puck, and I trust him as a defenceman.
I'd be okay trying this. Zajac has a pretty good shot (even if he doesn't use it enough), and is a pretty solid distributor.

Honestly, couldn't be worse than our current abomination.

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Honestly I rather play 2 minutes of our PP on D then go offensively.

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ROAD POINT

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We might make the Postseason as a lower seed ultimately but if we can't fix these issues with the SHG's, it will be one-and-done.
put this into perspective, this team has a better chance to win the cup than me getting laid in the next few months.

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You mean the one that Marty stole?

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Nobody has ever won them all.

But on a more critical note, I feel as though going forward with Oates conveys that the powerplay is acceptable.

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put this into perspective, this team has a better chance to win the cup than me getting laid in the next few months.
Trots has to love this post.

Didn't see the game yet. Any redeeming qualities before I pull up the replay? TG's post doesn't look very positive, unless Pete saying 12 SHGAs something to chalk up a positive.

Was the first goal a blown D coverage goal? That would have completed the bubble team Devils duet of goals against.

Also I streamed the penalty by clarkson, I dunno how he thinks that wasn't a penalty. Just cause it is in OT and we never get the calls in the last few moments doesn't mean you can have the stick parallel to the ice with it by his hands.

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This loss was a little more acceptable than Carolina. Plus it was OT, and we got a point.

Still this is unacceptable. SHG's, and the way we played tonight. Marty really kept us in it. Can't blame him. If he didn't give up that shorty he would have given up another, and maybe even more during one of the MANY times Ottawa was putting pressure on us in the zone.

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This loss was a little more acceptable than Carolina. Plus it was OT, and we got a point.

Still this is unacceptable. SHG's, and the way we played tonight. Marty really kept us in it. Can't blame him. If he didn't give up that shorty he would have given up another, and maybe even more during one of the MANY times Ottawa was putting pressure on us in the zone.
Does this mean we didn't play well? I'm beginning to think I'll be watching just the chunks where goals were scored to avoid frustration.

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put this into perspective, this team has a better chance to win the cup than me getting laid in the next few months.
put this into perspective, this team has a better chance to get to the playoffs than them not giving up another SHG.

Although the "getting laid" thing was interesting.

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Does this mean we didn't play well? I'm beginning to think I'll be watching just the chunks where goals were scored to avoid frustration.
I don't think they played well at all tonight. No way. I said in the 1st period they looked slow, and unprepared except for Marty. They kept it in the zone way too long. It was probably the worst 1st period this season where they didn't give up a goal. The 2nd wasn't much better, and neither was the 3rd.

I don't think this Devils team has had a GOOD loss in a while. Most of them were from lack of effort, or giving up shorties. Not because they were outplayed gracefully. Boston was the last really good loss we had I think. Even that could have gone the other way had we kept it out of the zone in the 3rd. Minnesota was a good loss, but we royally screwed up in the first 10 minutes.

The Rangers one wasn't so bad. I thought it was that night, but looking back it was okay. No disaster.

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The thing with the Rangers loss was that everyone seemed to be going out and executing minus the lack of goals. They also didn't really blow coverage for any goals against, it was just bad execution in our own zone.

So Petey is still bad at PP, D zone coverage, and now I can safely put holding onto leads. This same group could hold wins to some capacity last year with Lemaire. If anything, Lemaire should coach Pete on how to handle the 3rd period with a lead.

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