While I do love draft picks, I'd trade the 1st in a heartbeat if it meant getting Suter.
Sure nobody wouldn't. I don't want to turn this into a trade thread, but needless to say, if the Bruins wanted to acquire Sutter, the #1 pick would be the 3rd or 4th most valuable part of the trade
Sure nobody wouldn't. I don't want to turn this into a trade thread, but needless to say, if the Bruins wanted to acquire Sutter, the #1 pick would be the 3rd or 4th most valuable part of the trade
Not sure I agree with that. I certainly don't think it would be the #1 bargaining piece but I could see it being the second most important part. It all depends how desperate the Predators get. There's no guarantee they'd even want to trade him but in a league where we've seen Kovalchuk and Smyth get traded for squat, I wouldn't be surprised if the deal for Suter favoured the trading partner.
Not that they mean much this time of year, but a lot of these mocks have Slater koekkoek being available in the later part of the first round. If he is there when the B's pick I think he may be a bigger no brainer than Hamilton was this year
Can't wait to hear Jack Edwards in 2-3 years when there will be plays involving both KOKO and KuhKuh.
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Not that they mean much this time of year, but a lot of these mocks have Slater koekkoek being available in the later part of the first round. If he is there when the B's pick I think he may be a bigger no brainer than Hamilton was this year
I know a team that is currently in the bottom 10 of the league that really likes Slater, so it wouldn't shock me to see him go top 10 regardless of the shoulder.
He could drum in a Def Leppard tribute band and will still go before 30th overall.
Bottom line, the only way he gets picked by the B's is if they trade up for him.
OOG do you think Marcantuoni from Kitchener will make the top 90? I have always liked his game.
I know a team that is currently in the bottom 10 of the league that really likes Slater, so it wouldn't shock me to see him go top 10 regardless of the shoulder.
He could drum in a Def Leppard tribute band and will still go before 30th overall.
Bottom line, the only way he gets picked by the B's is if they trade up for him.
OOG do you think Marcantuoni from Kitchener will make the top 90? I have always liked his game.
Gotta say first off bud that wow you were bang on about Koekkoek, what was it, 2 years ago when you told Kirk and I to keep an eye on this kid? If it wasn't for his injury, there's no telling how high he would have climbed.
As for Marcantuoni it's hard to tell. Had a bad injury last year and was out 6 weeks but came back strong. And now two major injuries this year the last being a season ending injury, it's tough to gauge.
IMO, based on potential, yes. problem is that we won't get to see how he returns from those injuries.
I think a team with a lot of depth up front would certainly take the risk on this kid. Wish we had a 2nd rounder because I'd definitely take a chance on him there with our depth up front.
He could very well be this years Jared Knight for someone in the second round.
Gotta say first off bud that wow you were bang on about Koekkoek, what was it, 2 years ago when you told Kirk and I to keep an eye on this kid? If it wasn't for his injury, there's no telling how high he would have climbed.
As for Marcantuoni it's hard to tell. Had a bad injury last year and was out 6 weeks but came back strong. And now two major injuries this year the last being a season ending injury, it's tough to gauge.
IMO, based on potential, yes. problem is that we won't get to see how he returns from those injuries.
I think a team with a lot of depth up front would certainly take the risk on this kid. Wish we had a 2nd rounder because I'd definitely take a chance on him there with our depth up front.
He could very well be this years Jared Knight for someone in the second round.
Thanks for the props on Slater. I have known about him for a very long time, but didn't mention his name on these boards until he moved out west to play for the Notre Dame Hounds. When his team won the championship and he was the MVP of the tourney is when I really started to push his name. Tough to get peoples attention when you are pushing a 13 year old nobody has ever heard of.
I am convinced he will play in the NHL, but don't pencil him on any NHL rosters for at least a few years.
But having said that I am going to toss another name in the ring now that we will not talk about for another 2 years. Connor Murphy.....no not that Connor Murphy, this one is a Canadian from my hometown. He plays Forward for the AAA Bulldogs and should be a 1st round pick in the OHL draft this year. Very small kid but has serious skillz. The kid is also a member of my golf club and is a good golfer to boot.
Remember that name for 2014 I believe.
As for Matia, I thought you were going to answer the way you did. I cannot help but agree that he could be the Knight of 2012.
Not sure if he`ll still be around when the B`s picked, and as much as I`d love to see Chia and Co focus on D, I loved what I saw/heard (not much to go on but...) about Thomas Wilson, Plymouth Whalers?? Mackenzie said some scouts have him in the potential mould of a Lucic??? Can you imagine, I also loved the fact that he dropped the mitts at the prospect game. Not big numbers obviously but..
"Turned heads at the Ivan Hlinka U-18 tournament last summer with his energetic, physical play, but then struggled to produce offensively at the start of the OHL season. Strengths: One of the more rugged prospects in the draft, loves to throw his weight around, and not afraid to drop the gloves. Strong, decent straight ahead skater, competitive, works hard at both ends of the ice. Weaknesses: Won't ever put up offensive numbers, has limited offensive skills, average hands, poor puck skills, below average agility. NHL upside: Has the size and toughness along with straight ahead speed to be a regular lower-line NHL player with a physical presence."
Anyone seen him play?? The above isn`t glowing and I`ll be honest, with that said about him I`m a bit surprised he was in there at 20, almost sounds like a kid you`d snag in the 2nd round (B`s don`t have a pick there yet do they?)
Jordan Schmaltz seems very intriguing if he's indeed available towards the end of round one. Like the size, skating ability and offensive ability/upside plus he has a frame to put on 20-30 lbs and will be going to North Dakota...where everyone seems to play physical.
thats a nice mid season report, thanks for sharing it with us.
Im still an advocate for useing the 1st (assuming we keep it) on either Colton Sissons, Tom Wilson, Dalton Thrower, or Slater Koekkoek. Thrower and Sissons are my two favorites
Jordan Schmaltz seems very intriguing if he's indeed available towards the end of round one. Like the size, skating ability and offensive ability/upside plus he has a frame to put on 20-30 lbs and will be going to North Dakota...where everyone seems to play physical.
hes a good looking prospect as well. Would like to see him get to 200lbs though.
Not sure if he`ll still be around when the B`s picked, and as much as I`d love to see Chia and Co focus on D, I loved what I saw/heard (not much to go on but...) about Thomas Wilson, Plymouth Whalers?? Mackenzie said some scouts have him in the potential mould of a Lucic??? Can you imagine, I also loved the fact that he dropped the mitts at the prospect game. Not big numbers obviously but..
"Turned heads at the Ivan Hlinka U-18 tournament last summer with his energetic, physical play, but then struggled to produce offensively at the start of the OHL season. Strengths: One of the more rugged prospects in the draft, loves to throw his weight around, and not afraid to drop the gloves. Strong, decent straight ahead skater, competitive, works hard at both ends of the ice. Weaknesses: Won't ever put up offensive numbers, has limited offensive skills, average hands, poor puck skills, below average agility. NHL upside: Has the size and toughness along with straight ahead speed to be a regular lower-line NHL player with a physical presence."
Anyone seen him play?? The above isn`t glowing and I`ll be honest, with that said about him I`m a bit surprised he was in there at 20, almost sounds like a kid you`d snag in the 2nd round (B`s don`t have a pick there yet do they?)
I'm no expert but I've seen Wilson play a couple times and he doesn't seem like a 1st round talent to me. Definitely a big, tough kid and a decent skater but just doesn't seem to have much offensive skill. If we're picking a gritty forward I'd rather go with one of Colton Sissons, Scott Laughton or Scott Kosmachuk. Stefen Matteau is another gritty forward but I've never seen him play.
Going by MacKenzie's list it looks like Matt Finn could be available when Boston picks and if that's the case they better jump all over him. I can't see him being there at #30 though.
I'm no expert but I've seen Wilson play a couple times and he doesn't seem like a 1st round talent to me. Definitely a big, tough kid and a decent skater but just doesn't seem to have much offensive skill. If we're picking a gritty forward I'd rather go with one of Colton Sissons, Scott Laughton or Scott Kosmachuk. Stefen Matteau is another gritty forward but I've never seen him play.
Going by MacKenzie's list it looks like Matt Finn could be available when Boston picks and if that's the case they better jump all over him. I can't see him being there at #30 though.
Yeah, which is why when watching last night, then reading the comments about him it seemed like he`s the kind of kid ya take in the 2nd or later?? Weird, I know that Mackenzie did state that his performance at the U-18 turned heads, not sure about how much that tourney impacts scouting decisions but.....
I did however like the highlights they showed of him knowing full well that they ain`t showing his deficencies on a show geared to show the good clips
Thrower I'm starting to like. For Wilson there are things to like and he was a beast at the Prospects Game but his offensive skills shouldn't put him in the first round IMO, but the CHL forwards are so poor this year he'll probably go pretty early. Malcolm Subban has missed so much time it's hard for me to see him a first round talent, not enough history of sustained high level play like he's done this year.
Seth Griffith is now tied for the OHL league lead with 40 goals. Could have been had for a seventh rounder last year, Bruins could have taken him instead of Lars Volden. Will be interesting to see where he goes as an overager this year.
Seth Griffith is now tied for the OHL league lead with 40 goals. Could have been had for a seventh rounder last year, Bruins could have taken him instead of Lars Volden. Will be interesting to see where he goes as an overager this year.
Griffith is eligible for the draft but there is the possibility he won't be drafted again. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it's because of things we don't hear about.
But Tampa invited him to camp last summer and could very well be interested him as a pick or as a free agent. As you already know they drafted his line mate Vladdy last year and I'm pretty sure he's the reason why they invited Seth to camp.
I followed Griffith from his days in Junior B with the Lincolns. Always had a scoring touch, but not sure how much of that he can bring to the NHL
Griffith is eligible for the draft but there is the possibility he won't be drafted again. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it's because of things we don't hear about.
But Tampa invited him to camp last summer and could very well be interested him as a pick or as a free agent. As you already know they drafted his line mate Vladdy last year and I'm pretty sure he's the reason why they invited Seth to camp.
I followed Griffith from his days in Junior B with the Lincolns. Always had a scoring touch, but not sure how much of that he can bring to the NHL
I'm hoping Chia looks at adding guys like this to Providence. Sign some overage CHL kids for the farm. They desperately need some new talent. If a kid like this goes un drafted again I hope they look at it.