Bruins 2012 Draft

[OrrOverGretzky]

Originally Posted by JoeIsAStud

OOG, just to clarify this post. You are talking about Ebert not Scmaltz?

Correct

Originally Posted by Kirk- NEHJ

I'm in Velociraptor's mock on the Prospects Board (Mock Drafts section) and the Bruins 1st 2 picks thus far:

1st rd- 26. Phil Di Giuseppe, LW University of Michigan (CCHA)
3rd rd- 86. Gianluca Curcuruto, D Saulte Ste. Marie (OHL)

Next pick in rd. 5

Ugggh...

If the Bruins ended up with those two, fans should be thankful. Curcuruto is solid on d. Many are disappointed with his offense and feel he hasn't taken the next step, but he has the talent. Also disappointed with the Soo as a team. Felt they would be better especially after mortgaging the future for Campbell. I have GC early third so I hope he drops.

[BrainOfJ]

Originally Posted by Saxon Eric

What's the verdict on Sauve?

I cant see much..hes got some tools but can't stay healthy. Could be a sturm type if it all gets put together but I dunno...especially here, where one would think the OHL kids will immediately take his spot in the pecking order next year.

[Kirk- NEHJ]

Nobles-LA for the prep championship on Sunday.

Chris Calnan and Adam Gilmour are both solid options as mid-to-late rounders for Nobles, while Devin Tringale is LA's top scorer and can flat-out play. If he could address the consistency concerns, he'd be rated a lot higher.

[KnightofBoston]

I think we should draft Malcom Subban with our first and use our 2nd round luck to kick the tires on another promising dman with good skating skills. ***** depth behind rask and I wouldn't bank on Dobby sticking around for long. We need someone athletic and naturally talented to fill rask's roll when he takes over the number 1 spot

[Bruins1726]

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Originally Posted by KnightofBoston

I think we should draft Malcom Subban with our first and use our 2nd round luck to kick the tires on another promising dman with good skating skills. ***** depth behind rask and I wouldn't bank on Dobby sticking around for long. We need someone athletic and naturally talented to fill rask's roll when he takes over the number 1 spot

Problem is no second rounder this year. Hopefully Chia will get one though.

[dredeye]

Originally Posted by Bruins1726

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Problem is no second rounder this year. Hopefully Chia will get one though.

what does he give up to get that 2nd rounder though?

[Ill Dangle For You]

Now with this injury possibly putting a "?" on Rask's future, taking Subban with our 1st might be a good idea. Not saying Rask won't be good anymore but goalies take 3/4 years to develop and Subban would be a good ace in the hole just incase. If Rask turns out fine then Subban is Trade bait

[ODAAT]

Originally Posted by bossman34

Now with this injury possibly putting a "?" on Rask's future, taking Subban with our 1st might be a good idea. Not saying Rask won't be good anymore but goalies take 3/4 years to develop and Subban would be a good ace in the hole just incase. If Rask turns out fine then Subban is Trade bait

I think I`ll wait for trained medical staff to inform us about his "future".

It didn`t look good, but some here speaking as though his career is in serious doubt

[crossbardown]

Originally Posted by Kirk- NEHJ

Lawrence Academy stud Devin Tringale scored in OT to eliminate #1 seed Salisbury in the prep tourney semis tonight.

Loved this kid when I saw him in T1 midget (fall league) action before his season started and last year when LA made the tourney but lost to Milton in the semi-final game.

From Medford- heading to Harvard where he could eventually play with two more local area studs in Jimmy Vesey (son of former Townie and Bruin for cup of coffee+ Merrimack scoring ace) and Brian Hart (for my money the BEST New England kid available in the 2012 draft)

Tringale is under the radar- if you want the definition of a sleeper, he is it. Would not be surprised to see a team like San Jose jump on him in later rounds- he fits the definition of a Tim Burke (SJ's chief amateur scout) type of guy.

I agree with your assesment of Tringale. He was pretty dominate up and down the ice Friday night against a very talented Salisbury team. Very responsible in all 3 zones. The ot goal was a beauty. It should be a great game today. Brian Hart is the best NE player.

[Ill Dangle For You]

Originally Posted by ODAAT

I think I`ll wait for trained medical staff to inform us about his "future".

It didn`t look good, but some here speaking as though his career is in serious doubt

I didn't mean to come off like that but im saying worst case scenario if he's not the same player at all. I'm hoping to God its not too serious

[Eennad142]

Originally Posted by bossman34

Now with this injury possibly putting a "?" on Rask's future, taking Subban with our 1st might be a good idea. Not saying Rask won't be good anymore but goalies take 3/4 years to develop and Subban would be a good ace in the hole just incase. If Rask turns out fine then Subban is Trade bait

Jerry Shields' Goalie Scout site. MSubban not top-ranked goalie here.

http://www.goalierankings.com/

2012 NHL Draft North America
As of March 1, 2012

Rk Goalie Team(League)
1 Francois Brassard QUE (QMHL)
2 Etienne Marcoux BB (QMJHL)
3 Malcolm Subban BELV (OHL)
4 Jake Paterson SAG (OHL)
5 Dan Altshuller OSH (OHL)
6 Alex Dubeau SHA (QMJHL)
7 Brandon Whitney VIC (QMJHL)
8 Emerson Verrier COB (OJHL)
9 Jon Gillies IND (USHL)
10 Charlie Lindgren SIO (USHL)
11 Jared Rutledge USA (USHL)

[KnightofBoston]

Goalie rankings are a crap shoot, and that's only top 11

Subban has the right stuff

[Eennad142]

Originally Posted by KnightofBoston

Goalie rankings are a crap shoot, and that's only top 11
Subban has the right stuff

Player rankings are a crap shoot. MSubban has the right hype.

FIXED

Jerry Shields Goalie Scout

2012 NHL Draft Top 20 North America
As of March 1, 2012

Rk Goalie Team(League)
1 Francois Brassard QUE (QMHL)
2 Etienne Marcoux BB (QMJHL)
3 Malcolm Subban BELV (OHL)
4 Jake Paterson SAG (OHL)
5 Dan Altshuller OSH (OHL)
6 Alex Dubeau SHA (QMJHL)
7 Brandon Whitney VIC (QMJHL)
8 Emerson Verrier COB (OJHL)
9 Jon Gillies IND (USHL)
10 Charlie Lindgren SIO (USHL)
11 Jared Rutledge USA (USHL)
12 Antoine Bibeau PEI (QMJHL)
13 Francois Tremblay VAL (QMJHL)
14 Jacob Brennan AB (QMJHL)
15 Chris Driedger CLG (WHL)
16 Mackenzie Skapski KOO (WHL)
17 Michael Rotolo GB (USHL)
18 Matt Murray SOO (OHL)
19 Alex Sakellaropoulos CHI (USHL)
20 Brandon Hope SAR (OHL)

CHL Top 20
As of March 1, 2012

Top Goaltender Team(League) Rating
1 John Gibson KIT(OHL) 66
2 Franky Palazzese KIT (OHL) 63
3 Roman Will MON(QMJHL) 63
4 Gabriel Girard SHA(QMJHL) 59
5 Louis Domingue QUE(QMJHL) 58
6 Tyler Bunz MH(WHL) 54
7 Ty Rimmer TC(WHL) 52
8 Matt Mahalak PLY(OHL) 52
9 Calvin Pickard SEA(WHL) 52
10 Etienne Marcoux BB(QMJHL) 52
11 Francois Brassard QUE(QMJHL) 51
12 Mathieu Corbeil SJ(QMJHL) 51
13 Andrey Makarov SAS(WHL) 50
14 Corbin Boes BDN(WHL) 48
15 Malcolm Subban BELV(OHL) 48
16 Michael Houser LDN(OHL) 48
17 Patrik Bartosak RD(WHL) 47
18 Alex Dubeau SHA(QMJHL) 46
19 Nathan Lieuwen KTN(WHL) 45
20 Kent Simpson EVT(WHL) 45

NCAA Top 20
As of March 1, 2012

Rk Name, Year, College Rating
1 Chris Noonan, Sr, Niagara 47
2 Brooks Ostergard, Sr, Robert Morris 46
3 Jared Coreau, So, Northern Michigan 40
4 Shawn Hunwick, Sr, Michigan 40
5 Connor Knapp, Sr, Miami 39
6 Troy Grosenick, So, Union 38
7 Will Yanakeff, So, Michigan State 38
8 Shane Madolora, Jr, RIT 36
9 Casey DeSmith, Fr, New Hampshire 36
10 Doug Carr, So, Massachusetts-Lowell 33
11 Branden Komm, So, Bentley 33
12 Joe Cannata, Sr, Merrimack 32
13 Josh Thorimbert, So, Colorado College 31
14 Taylor Nelson, Sr, Ferris State 30
15 Jason Torf, So, Air Force 29
16 Juho Olkinuora, Fr, Denver 28
17 C.J. Motte, Fr, Ferris State 27
18 Parker Milner, Jr, Boston College 21
19 Andy Iles, So, Cornell 18
20 Kent Patterson, Sr, Minnesota 17

[DaaaaB's]

Originally Posted by Eennad142

[CHL Top 20
As of March 1, 2012

Top Goaltender Team(League) Rating
1 John Gibson KIT(OHL) 66
2 Franky Palazzese KIT (OHL) 63
3 Roman Will MON(QMJHL) 63
4 Gabriel Girard SHA(QMJHL) 59
5 Louis Domingue QUE(QMJHL) 58
6 Tyler Bunz MH(WHL) 54
7 Ty Rimmer TC(WHL) 52
8 Matt Mahalak PLY(OHL) 52
9 Calvin Pickard SEA(WHL) 52
10 Etienne Marcoux BB(QMJHL) 52
11 Francois Brassard QUE(QMJHL) 51
12 Mathieu Corbeil SJ(QMJHL) 51
13 Andrey Makarov SAS(WHL) 50
14 Corbin Boes BDN(WHL) 48
15 Malcolm Subban BELV(OHL) 48
16 Michael Houser LDN(OHL) 48
17 Patrik Bartosak RD(WHL) 47
18 Alex Dubeau SHA(QMJHL) 46
19 Nathan Lieuwen KTN(WHL) 45
20 Kent Simpson EVT(WHL) 45

I wouldn't put much stock into these rankings. The top 2 goalies on the list both play for the Kitchener Rangers which is a much better team then Belleville who Subban plays for. Subban's stats are still better than both guys anyhow. Roman Will is 5'4" and 130lbs and Subban has better stats then him as well. As far as Marcoux and Brassard being the highest rated draft eligible goalies, fwiw both have weaker stats than Subban while playing for much stronger teams.

[wKetch22]

Still not convinced we need a goalie.

We kind of need everything haha. I dont know if I would be happy if we spent our first rounder on a goalie, when we have so many other needs, and we have a young stud goaltender. By the time Thomas is out a guy like Subban might be ready to be a backup, so I see the logic, Im just not convince its the best idea right now.. I dont know

And I hear this draft is deep with good d-men, and with us having no real good D prospects besides Hamilton I feel as if that would be our best bet

[DaaaaB's]

They just need to draft the best player available regardless of position. All great drafting teams draft based on BPA not need.

[KnightofBoston]

I just worry about tuukka's durability and ability to play a full season plus playoffs. The guy is a rail.

I think with Timmy's departure we won't get another undersized yet elite level goalie, so we're going to have to go the traditional route and get someone big, athletic, quick.

[Bruinsfan_37]

Most say the draft isn't very deep, so if the player we want isn't available I have no problem with the Bruins going after a goalie

[Eennad142]

Originally Posted by DaaaaB's

I wouldn't put much stock into these rankings. The top 2 goalies on the list both play for the Kitchener Rangers which is a much better team then Belleville who Subban plays for. Subban's stats are still better than both guys anyhow. Roman Will is 5'4" and 130lbs and Subban has better stats then him as well. As far as Marcoux and Brassard being the highest rated draft eligible goalies, fwiw both have weaker stats than Subban while playing for much stronger teams.

You are correct, statwise. Different teams, different leagues. Roman Will is 6/1, 190lbs, from MonctonWildcats/Wikipedia.

Subban GP33/GAA 2.51
Brassard GP33/GAA 2.70
Marcoux GP40/GAA 2.75
Will GP57/GAA 2.75

[Ill Dangle For You]

Imagine If we draft Malcolm Subban then 2013 Jordan Subban? Lol major Habs toll

[Shaun]

I still like Colton Sissons but im all for taking the BPA

[Ill Dangle For You]

Sissons is still who I want In the first round. He has a late 1st grade. HM Dalton Thrower

[DaaaaB's]

Originally Posted by Eennad142

You are correct, statwise. Different teams, different leagues. Roman Will is 6/1, 190lbs, from MonctonWildcats/Wikipedia.

Subban GP33/GAA 2.51
Brassard GP33/GAA 2.70
Marcoux GP40/GAA 2.75
Will GP57/GAA 2.75

Yeah, that's why I put fwiw about the stats. I'm pretty sure the Quebec league is generally a higher scoring league than the other two CHL leagues.

That's weird about Will. Hockeydb has him listed at 5'4" 130lbs but like you said Wiki has being much bigger. The QMJHL site has him at 6'1" 190lbs so I'm guessing that's correct. 5'4" 130lbs would be ridicuously small for a goalie or any hockey player.

[don]

Originally Posted by bme44

I think we should take the best player available with our first . I also think we should try and trade Hamill by the deadline for a second rounder in this years draft preferably to a nonplayoff team. With this pick take a dman or a goalie

I have to disagree a little with the BPA philosophy. In the CAP era, unless there is one players so far above the others, you almost have to go by positional needs. I do agree with trading Hamill but I think we'd have to add to him to get a 2nd.

[ap3lovr]

The draft can play out either way, but I have a feeling we won't be picking in the first 2 rounds.