Since when is a 2nd line center (Gagner) not an upgrade over a 3rd line center (Koivu/Bonino). We're lucky if Bonino or Holland ever turns into the player Gagner is, not to mention what he could become. Gagner is still only 22 years old, a year younger than Bonino, and a 50 point center over a full season. Pretty solid numbers for a 2nd line center if you ask me.
Ideally, moving Holland+ would be better since he's also a center. Getzlaf/Gagner/Koivu/Bonino would make for a good center quartet, the best one this team has had in five years. They could use some grit on the wings though.
No one said that Gagner is not an upgrade. The argument is: Is he a big enough upgrade over what we have to justify giving the assets needed to get him? I say no. I'd rather keep the assets personally.
I think we need someone better if we choose (and hopefully so) to upgrade the position. We need a great option there, not just a good one. I'm curious to know if SJ is actually considering a rebuild like many of their fans believe. Pavelski would be a ridiculously great option there.
Does anyone think Getzlaf is going to get traded? The crowd definitely boo'd him when he didn't take a shot in the game. I wonder if that sent him and/or management a message.
I say we trade him for a quality D guy and sign Zach Parise (probably won't happen though).
How does these lines work (if getzlaf gets traded & we sign parise by some miracle)?
Parise- Koivu- Perry
Ryan - Holland- Selanne
DSP - Cogliano - Etem
Maroon/Beleskey - Bonino - FA
Some fans boo'ed him because he's having a downyear and he's an easy target. We'll be 100 times worse without Getzlaf.
I'm sure a lot of those people boo'ed Jonas as well until he started to play well.
Fans boo'ing a player really won't be making management do anything.
Selanne unequivocally states if he returns in '12-13 that it will be with Winnipeg.
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But he is sure about one thing: If he does return for another NHL season, it will be in Anaheim. I know that will crush the hearts of fans in Winnipeg, but Anaheim has been his NHL home for too long.
"It’s hard to even think about going anywhere else," said Selanne, who began his Hockey Hall of Fame-bound NHL career in Winnipeg.
It's not like we wouldn't get anything for it, not to mention this team doesn't really need another RW in its system. It's not like Grigo is a slouch.
Well, our (very) current RW depth isn't such a big factor. Ryan can just continue to play on the left side, and Teemu might be gone this summer. Hell, Perry might be gone next. Wouldn't make me want to just pass on the better player. Especially since there doesn't seem to be much of a chance that Thrower would be available that late. He seems to have gone up quite a bit.
It's not like we wouldn't get anything for it, not to mention this team doesn't really need another RW in its system. It's not like Grigo is a slouch.
But Yakupov is seen as the unanimous #1 pick. If the Ducks win the lottery, they should cheers, walk up to the podium with a wide smile, and pick Yakupov.
Unless Anaheim wins the draft they need to trade this pick for an established 1st/2nd line player
No way that happens. If Bobby Ryan wouldn't be traded for a top 10 pick straight up, we won't get anything better and the chance of one of the guys we pick being better than the guy we traded for is too high. terrible suggestion
Well, our (very) current RW depth isn't such a big factor. Ryan can just continue to play on the left side, and Teemu might be gone this summer. Hell, Perry might be gone next. Wouldn't make me want to just pass on the better player. Especially since there doesn't seem to be much of a chance that Thrower would be available that late. He seems to have gone up quite a bit.
The difference between Yakupov and Grigorenko isn't that big. Even if Thrower isn't available, I'd still do it. That's not a pre-condition.
Unless Anaheim wins the draft they need to trade this pick for an established 1st/2nd line player
They should be listening to offers, which they sure will, but they will rightfully be fully in peace with the most likely outcome of using the pick to draft a very good young player. As someone else pointed out and deserves to be reiterated - having young players that contribute on ELCs is huge in the cap era for any team, and even more importantly for a budget team.
The difference between Yakupov and Grigorenko isn't that big. Even if Thrower isn't available, I'd still do it. That's not a pre-condition.
The first statement seems to be heavily debated among a good part of the scouts, all aspects of the game and being a successful professional considered. Which seems to be safer to say is that the depth of the draft is shallow, and that is most likely going to show with early 2nd round picks. I don't think it would be worth it.
