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01-06-2012, 04:42 PM
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Lets remember Ducks free up (Cap Space next season)

Blake 4M
Selanne 4M
Koivu 2.5M
Hagman 1.5M
Parros 875K
Beauchemin 3.8M
Ellis 1.5M
Brookbank 750K

And lets maybe try a page from Philly's book. They traded 2 star center piece players for:

Richards for Simmonds, Schenn and a 2nd

Carter for Vorachek, 8th Overall pick and a 3rd Rd

They signed Bryz, Jagr, Talbot, Betts, Lilja


Where are the superstars in return of those trades. They created the right mix. And built around Giroux, JVR, Briere, Pronger, Timonen.

Ducks should do the same. Keep Perry, Getzlaf, Vish, Fowler, Selanne.

Trade Ryan to Philly for Hartnell and Talbot. A 30 goal player and a 15 goal player. Both gritty! Give up 30 goals for 45 in return.

Hiller and Beauchemin to Tampa for Downie and Brewer. Gritty 20-25 goal scorer and a vet D.

Sign Vokoun in the summer. Sign Hagman. Sign Koivu




and it makes sense financially!

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Ryan Getzlaf ($5.325m) / Corey Perry ($5.325m) / Hartnell ($4.200m)
Selanne ($3.500m) / Koivu ($2.000m) / Hagman ($2.000m)
Downie ($2.250m) / Andrew Cogliano ($2.390m) / Devante Smith-Pelly ($0.870m)
Pelley ($0.550m) / Bonino ($0.550m) / Talbot ($1.750m)
Parros ($0.875m)

DEFENSEMEN
Lubomir Visnovsky ($5.600m) / Brewer ($3.850m)
Toni Lydman ($3.000m) / Cam Fowler ($1.400m)
Luca Sbisa ($2.175m) / Cuminsky ($0.650m)
/ Brookbank ($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Ellis ($1.250m) / Vokoun ($4.000m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $54,260,000; BONUSES: $640,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $10,040,000
Umm Koivu and Selanne will likely retire in the summer...and that team looks worst then what we have. If you think Hartnell and Talbot will change the franchise for the better then you are seriously not thinking about this clearly

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01-06-2012, 04:44 PM
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I love how people are completely oblivious to Ducks payroll..
Yupp and we can sign a Weber/Suter/Parise for league maximum and keep the RPG line....sigh

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01-06-2012, 04:50 PM
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If you are not getting back an equivalent established, young NHL star for the likes of Perry, Getzlaf or Ryan it shouldn't even be discussed.

However, at the trading deadline there are some interesting impending UFA's.

This is not taking into account the player's desire to wave a NMC/NTC, just looking at the type of impending UFA trade value currently on the roster.

Selanne = Low 1st rounder
Koivu = 2nd rounder
Beauchemin = 2nd rounder
Blake = 3rd rounder

With this deep draft, those are potentially great assets. They don't have to do anything stupid, stay the course this year, see if we can end up moving some impending UFA's (with their blessing in some cases) and look forward to the draft.

Unless Nashville thinks they can't sign Weber (assuming health) and wants a young 1st line forward under contract in return.

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Beauch would fetch a 1st, in my opinion.

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Penner would be a good fit again.
No times a thousand. The no again.

Would love to bring back Moen. He's improved his offensive game this year, and we know he's very good on his own side of the blueline too. He'd bring back some of that tough as nails forecheck culture this team desperately needs back.

Plus this:


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I'd like Moen back as well.

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I'd like Moen back as well.
Id take anyone like Moen back, our bottom six has become like watching the Smurf movie.

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01-07-2012, 12:28 AM
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I know there are the rumors out there that anyone's up for grabs, and so I'm sure you guys have heard tons and tons of Getzlaf proposals, but I have another one...


To Anaheim:

1. C- Derek Roy

2. G- Ryan Miller

3. Choice of: LW- Tyler Ennis or RW- Drew Stafford

4. Choice of: D-Mark Pysyk or RW- Joel Armia or C- Luke Adam

To Buffalo:

1. C- Ryan Getzlaf

2. G- Jonas Hiller


-My thinking is, you give up Getzlaf, he's a top-5/10 center in the league, and have to give Hiller, but you get an upgrade in net (an all-star, Olympian and guy who can carry a team on his shoulders, trust me, in the right situation, he can, easily). You get a downgrade from Getzlaf, but a guy who is still capable of centering a top line for a playoff team, and will likely play better with guys like Perry and Ryan on his wings. You get a dynamic, young, NHL winger in your choice of Stafford or Ennis. Stafford is signed for the next 3 seasons after this at $4M cap hit, but has 30-40 goal capability when he's on his game. Ennis is a dynamic player with 70pt potential who adds speed to your forward corps. And you also get your choice of one of our top prospects... Pysyk adds an eventual right handed defender to pair with Fowler or Sbisa. Armia would eventually replace Selanne. Or Adam would be that 2nd line center behind Roy that Anaheim has been looking for really since Andy McDonald left.

Thoughts?

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01-07-2012, 01:04 AM
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Pass! Give me two first rounds and I'll make the ducks

2nd line!
Etem-Galchenyuk-Yakupov

Bring back the kid line!

If only I was GM.... :/

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01-07-2012, 01:10 AM
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Might as well bring Bob Niedermayer and Sammy back. Aren't they both UFAs?

Jusst make them the 4th line if they aren't what they used to be. Thats still a good 4th line.

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One of the Dallas fans in the comment: I'd give up Glennie + scrub + 3rd for Ryan + 2nd...we keep our 2nd line AND get a 2nd round pick

I lol'ed

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If we do trade Getzlaf, I want either stamkoz or tavares if we can. No way we trade getzlaf and not get a 1C

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If we do trade Getzlaf, I want either stamkoz or tavares if we can. No way we trade getzlaf and not get a 1C
I wonder what the chances are of re-signing Getz/Perry if one of Getz/Perry and traded, got to think they'd rather play together once they hit UFA

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If we do trade Getzlaf, I want either stamkoz or tavares if we can. No way we trade getzlaf and not get a 1C

Tavares is signed for another 6 and 1/2 yrs,on a team friendly contract.

Snow wouldn't deal Tavares for 1 and 1/2 yrs of ANYBODY.I don't care how much more that player has done in the nhl.


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Is it true that Brad Stuart wants to return to Califonia due to family reasons? If he will we should do everything to sign him, then trade Lydman for something, sign 6th/7th d-man like Lepisto, of course re-sign Beauch and we will have good refreshing in our defence...

Beauchemin/Fowler
Visnovsky/Stuart
Sbisa/Schultz
Lepisto
Vatanen
Guenin

not bad at all...I would also like to trade Cogs, because he isn't top six guys and I prefer Hagman - Koivu - DSP as a third line...still a fan of Konopka as a 4th line center...

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He's likely going to San Jose. The Sharks are located closest to his family.

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hey guys, flyers fan here just looking for some info. there are some rumors i've been hearing out here about you guys possibly shopping getslaf and bobby ryan. are there any truth to those rumors or is it just more wishful thinking from us flyers fans?

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hey guys, flyers fan here just looking for some info. there are some rumors i've been hearing out here about you guys possibly shopping getslaf and bobby ryan. are there any truth to those rumors or is it just more wishful thinking from us flyers fans?
They're available for the right offer, not really being shopped though

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hey guys, flyers fan here just looking for some info. there are some rumors i've been hearing out here about you guys possibly shopping getslaf and bobby ryan. are there any truth to those rumors or is it just more wishful thinking from us flyers fans?
Nothing says they're being shopped, but we're willing to listen to offers. The earliest anyone on our top unit gets actively shopped is in the summer, when there are fewer constraints.

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Stuart would be interesting but only for a moment. Whenever I seem to watch him these days he seems to make a Whintey-like boneheaded play. Most of those came in the playoffs too.

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Elliotte Friedman mentioned tonight that Perry and Fowler are 'borderline' untouchable as well. Says teams think Getzlaf might be available for ridiculous offer or if they don't think can sign him next year. He thinks Ryan is the one that could be moved. Nothing really groundbreaking here...

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Elliotte Friedman mentioned tonight that Perry and Fowler are 'borderline' untouchable as well. Says teams think Getzlaf might be available for ridiculous offer or if they don't think can sign him next year. He thinks Ryan is the one that could be moved. Nothing really groundbreaking here...
Still sounds like they all want to move to Toronto

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Can't wait to get Grabo, Mac, 3rd

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Can't wait to get Grabo, Mac, 3rd
I'm still holding out hope that Murray can work his magic and get Kulemin and a 2nd. Do it, Bob!

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