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Mid-season Awards: Calder

View Poll Results: Calder?
Smith 3 0.82%
Larsson 3 0.82%
Hanrique 88 23.91%
Nugent-Hopkins 227 61.68%
Landeskog 8 2.17%
Cowen 10 2.72%
Adam 1 0.27%
Read 11 2.99%
Gardiner 1 0.27%
Hodgson 11 2.99%
Other (who?) 5 1.36%
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01-11-2012, 07:45 PM
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Henrique and read have a good shot if RNH is out for considerable time... If he misses less than 10 games he should seal the deal
This is what I think as well. If RNH hadn't gotten injured, it would be more of a no-brainer, but the injury complicates things a bit.

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01-11-2012, 07:54 PM
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01-11-2012, 07:55 PM
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This is what I think as well. If RNH hadn't gotten injured, it would be more of a no-brainer, but the injury complicates things a bit.
If he didn't get injured? He was trending down well before he got injured. In RNH last 10 games he had no goals, 5 assist and was a -5.
And in last 5 games he only had 1 assits.

Henrique in his last 10 games has had 5 goals, 4 assist, +2.

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01-11-2012, 07:58 PM
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Based on the poll question, its a no-brainer. RNH is the winner at the half-way point. Henrique didnt even make the team out of camp, and you'd have to ignore his last game, which is in the 2nd half of the season.

At the end of the season, the answer may be different. The 2nd half of the season is arguably more important, and will be fresher in voters minds.

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01-11-2012, 08:02 PM
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While we're at it, why don't we just give Henrique the Selke too?

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01-11-2012, 08:04 PM
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While we're at it, why don't we just give Henrique the Selke too?
There is a very good argument for it and I'll bet you he garners at least a couple of votes.

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01-11-2012, 08:12 PM
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Better question: Who has been the worst rookie so far?

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As much as I would like to vote Henrique, it has to be RNH.

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01-11-2012, 08:46 PM
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“I don’t think I can really make a pick,” Hall said. “Saying all this, Nuge has been so great for us too. We’ve all been witness to how good of a rookie season he’s had and same for Henny. They’re both kind of neck and neck and it’s good to see.”

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01-11-2012, 08:51 PM
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Hall on Henrique.

"He’s a great player,” Hall said. “He’s kind of north-south player. He’s a player that just does everything the right way. He’s a good two-way centerman. He penalty kills in his first year in the NHL, which is something that you don’t really see all the time and he’s always racking up the points offensively. So, he’s kind of a centerman that does it all right now, so that’s something he did in juniors, so I can’t really say I’m that shocked.”

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If he didn't get injured? He was trending down well before he got injured. In RNH last 10 games he had no goals, 5 assist and was a -5.
And in last 5 games he only had 1 assits.

Henrique in his last 10 games has had 5 goals, 4 assist, +2.
But he started off so poorly he didn't even make the cut, initially.

With Rookies, you really need to look at the whole season as they do tend to have poor small stretches.

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01-11-2012, 09:07 PM
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But he started off so poorly he didn't even make the cut, initially.

With Rookies, you really need to look at the whole season as they do tend to have poor small stretches.
He was never bad in the NHL. As soon as he got an opportunity he performed. How is him not making the team out of camp a negative? That seems a strange concept to me?

The whole season season should be looked at and RHN started to slump before he got injured and Henrique has been progressively getting better.

And just about any measurable way you can count it Henrique has played a more well rounded two way game while producing just as much offense...that is the better player.

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01-11-2012, 11:55 PM
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Nugent-Hopkins right now, but Henrique is closer than the poll results indicate.

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If Nugent Hopkins misses 20 games he wont win it, I dont think he's going to win it becuase of this injury.

At this point its going to be interesting to finnish the year.

Landeskog is definitly making a Push for it, 6th in Rookies for total points, only 2 back from Reid and 9 back from Henrique, Leading all rookie forwards in +/- at +10. And his Defensive game is far and away better then any other Rookie Forward.

Right now I would say the Top 3 are Henrique, Landeskog, and Maybe Hodgson or Cowen.
Landeskog's defensive game is far and away better than any other rookie forward?

I believe Henrique would take that honour and Sean Couturier next, then Landeskog.

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01-12-2012, 01:42 AM
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But he started off so poorly he didn't even make the cut, initially.

With Rookies, you really need to look at the whole season as they do tend to have poor small stretches.
Who cares about whether he made the team out of camp? As soon as he got a chance in the NHL, he started kicking ass. His coach now admits that he misjudged him. I don't see why that should be held against him.

As for your other point about poor stretches, since he was called up, he's been scoring consistently, defending well, and playing with consistent effort. Never takes a night off, and his work ethic is impressive. Even on nights he doesn't end up on the scoresheet, he has an impact on the game. It's rare you find a rookie this consistent.

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01-12-2012, 04:03 AM
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Wait, so if Kovalchuk is so bad defensively that he needs to be covered by Henrique, then why is he on the PK? Also it must be nice playing with an Art Ross winner and a 95 point player almost all the time.

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01-12-2012, 09:16 AM
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Go bump another 2011 draft poll already.

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01-12-2012, 09:18 AM
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this drawling bitterness is tiresome.

Kovalchuk was slotted in because Parise was in the box and the Devils were thus short a penalty killer

Kovalchuk SOMETIMES plays the second penalty kill unit behind Parise and Henrique. You may have noticed that Parise was in the box when Kovalchuk scored.

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Who cares about whether he made the team out of camp? As soon as he got a chance in the NHL, he started kicking ass. His coach now admits that he misjudged him. I don't see why that should be held against him.

As for your other point about poor stretches, since he was called up, he's been scoring consistently, defending well, and playing with consistent effort. Never takes a night off, and his work ethic is impressive. Even on nights he doesn't end up on the scoresheet, he has an impact on the game. It's rare you find a rookie this consistent.
You mean like RNH? Only twice he went 2 full games without scoring. Henrique went 3full games without a point just in the last few weeks, something RNH hasnt done yet this season, not to mention Henrique's 4 game pointless streak. The consistency argument helps RNH's case more than Henrique.

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You mean like RNH? Only twice he went 2 full games without scoring. Henrique went 3full games without a point just in the last few weeks, something RNH hasnt done yet this season, not to mention Henrique's 4 game pointless streak. The consistency argument helps RNH's case more than Henrique.
Would you like to look up for me the last time RNH scored a goal? Even if you claim that he would have scored by now if he wasn't injured, he still hasn't scored between December 7 and January 2, when he was injured. Almost a month.

You also conveniently ignored Henrique's 7 game point streak, which just barely edges out RNH's 6 game streak.

Another thing: looking at Henrique's game log, I was mistaken about his status after training camp. It appears that he made the team out of camp and played two (apparently unmemorable) games, before being sent down. Then when Josefson got injured he was called back up. He had an adjustment period at the end of October, then started impressing from November onward.

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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, hands down easy decision...AINIC.

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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, hands down easy decision...AINIC.
How is it not even close?
Henrique is 1 point behind him and plays a better two way game..

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How is it not even close?
Henrique is 1 point behind him and plays a better two way game..
good for him....I don't think it's close.

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