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01-09-2012, 04:37 AM
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if Bolland gets traded to the East and doesnt play the Sedins, he's worth a 3rd round pick

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01-09-2012, 04:41 AM
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His value as a hockey player? Pretty high actually. He can help teams who need help at centre in the playoffs.

His value as a human being? That's a different story.

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01-09-2012, 05:59 AM
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I don't understand why you'd wanna trade bolland? I think he's much more proven then your now second line centre Kruger (i think?) . Bolland is a clutch player that really plays well in the playoffs. Hell, the leafs would take him but we have a clog in the center and he is that big. I'd take montador for a 3rd

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01-09-2012, 06:12 AM
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I don't understand why you'd wanna trade bolland? I think he's much more proven then your now second line centre Kruger (i think?) . Bolland is a clutch player that really plays well in the playoffs. Hell, the leafs would take him but we have a clog in the center and he is that big. I'd take montador for a 3rd
His play during 82 games is troublesome. Sure he brings it to another level for the playoffs, but that is not a guarantee anymore. Injured often or disappears to unpredictable. Kruger seems to be the most improved rookie and shows that he can handle 3rd line not at Bolland level....but a defensive center gem so far.

3rd rounder you are nuts. Bolland is worth a late 1st rounder and a mid-level prospect.

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01-09-2012, 06:20 AM
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I know eh, what kind of an idiot would want a 60 point centre who's 27 years old and one the scrappiest players in the league? It's only a matter of time before guys like him are no longer in the league.
Your attempt at sarcasm was mildly amusing right up to where you called him one of the NHL's scrappiest players.At that point your post became hilarious and you lost all credibility.Grabovski one of the scrappiest in the league !!

Thank you for starting my day off with some much needed humor !

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01-09-2012, 06:31 AM
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His play during 82 games is troublesome. Sure he brings it to another level for the playoffs, but that is not a guarantee anymore. Injured often or disappears to unpredictable. Kruger seems to be the most improved rookie and shows that he can handle 3rd line not at Bolland level....but a defensive center gem so far.

3rd rounder you are nuts. Bolland is worth a late 1st rounder and a mid-level prospect.
I believe he's offering a 3rd for Montador not Bolland.

And I don't think Bolland would bring back a 1st due to his average regular season play,but his playoff performances make him worth more than a 3rd.So probably something like a 2nd+high level prospect would be required for Bolland.

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01-09-2012, 06:40 AM
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His value as a hockey player? Pretty high actually. He can help teams who need help at centre in the playoffs.

His value as a human being? That's a different story.



Explain please ! Do you have some factual knowledge about him that shows his "value as a human being" or are you still upset about his treatment of the Sedin sisters during the playoffs ??

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01-09-2012, 10:31 AM
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If Kruger comes back soon and plays well enough to use as our third line pivot, Bolland for Grabo would actually make some sort of sense.
I would make this deal in a second from a Leafs pov... I'd even throw in a mid-range prospect or pick (3rd rounder? Holzer/Mueller?) to get it done.

Bolland is exactly the type of gritty, shutdown 3rd line C the Leafs need.

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
Kadri - Connolly - MacArthur
Kulemin - Bolland - Armstrong
Boyce - Steckel - Brown


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To Chicago - Grabovski, Gunnarsson & 3rd in 2012
To Toronto - Bolland & Beach

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No deal... Gunnarsson has quietly become one of the Leafs best D.
Sub him out for someone else, then it could work.

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01-09-2012, 11:00 AM
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I believe he's offering a 3rd for Montador not Bolland.

And I don't think Bolland would bring back a 1st due to his average regular season play,but his playoff performances make him worth more than a 3rd.So probably something like a 2nd+high level prospect would be required for Bolland.
thanks for the explanation makes sense. a 3rd for montador is accurate value, but we couldn't let him go unless we replaced him. I think D. Olsen is ready yet not 100% sure.

You may be right on Bolland and a high level prospect and a 2nd rounder. I don't want to be delusional, but we got a 1st rounder for Brouwer & Bolland is much more of a complete player than Brouwer. I thought we would get a 2nd rounder for Brouwer.

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01-09-2012, 11:23 AM
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I would make this deal in a second from a Leafs pov... I'd even throw in a mid-range prospect or pick (3rd rounder? Holzer/Mueller?) to get it done.

Bolland is exactly the type of gritty, shutdown 3rd line C the Leafs need.

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
Kadri - Connolly - MacArthur
Kulemin - Bolland - Armstrong
Boyce - Steckel - Brown




No deal... Gunnarsson has quietly become one of the Leafs best D.
Sub him out for someone else, then it could work.
We'll take Jesse Blacker.

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01-09-2012, 02:14 PM
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We'll take Jesse Blacker.
so what are you adding to Bolland to get Blacker?

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01-09-2012, 03:02 PM
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Gunnarsson is a big asset with his improved play and his contract makes him even more valuable.

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01-09-2012, 03:24 PM
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Grabovski + Gunnarsson
for
Bolland + Beach + 2nd

or

Grabovski + Blacker + 3rd
for
Bolland + Beach

or

Grabovski + Aulie
for
Bolland + Beach + 3rd


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Consideration to Beach having a pretty serious injury. the picks can be conditional in every deal.


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01-09-2012, 03:43 PM
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Bolland isn't going anywhere. We need to add centers, not lose them.

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01-09-2012, 03:51 PM
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Your attempt at sarcasm was mildly amusing right up to where you called him one of the NHL's scrappiest players.At that point your post became hilarious and you lost all credibility.Grabovski one of the scrappiest in the league !!

Thank you for starting my day off with some much needed humor !
Watch the game last year vs Boston, maybe you'll learn something. Grabovski is incredibly scrappy and tough as nails for his size. I'd love to see what this guy can do in the playoffs.

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01-09-2012, 04:00 PM
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Again. Grabo is the most underrated leaf. 60 point center, thats fast, quick, amazing vision that goes unnoticed and can shoot. Great legit 2nd line centre that has come along ways.

Bolland for Grabo = no for the leafs, I believe Grabo is better stat wise but i am a leafs fan so dont take my word and argue bout it. Id like to say, sharp-grabovski-hossa is a dangerous 2nd line thatd i'd never wanna defend against.

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01-09-2012, 04:12 PM
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Grabovski + Gunnarsson
for
Bolland + Beach + 2nd

or

Grabovski + Blacker + 3rd
for
Bolland + Beach

or

Grabovski + Aulie
for
Bolland + Beach + 3rd


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Consideration to Beach having a pretty serious injury. the picks can be conditional in every deal.
No u are not getting a 2nd rounder

Bolland, Beach & Frolik

for

Grabovski, Gunnarsson & 3rd rounder

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01-09-2012, 05:06 PM
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No u are not getting a 2nd rounder

Bolland, Beach & Frolik

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Grabovski, Gunnarsson & 3rd rounder
So we get Bolland and two busts for our second line center,a top pairing dman(probably our best dman as well) and a pick? where do I sign?

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01-09-2012, 05:25 PM
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So we get Bolland and two busts for our second line center,a top pairing dman(probably our best dman as well) and a pick? where do I sign?
Frolik is far from a bust....2 time 20 goal scorer. Down year for sure.

Bolland has more valu than Grabo

and I may have undervalued Gunnarsson. He was good last year and emerged this year. But don't say he is a top pairing just because he is having a career year.

I will be realistic, but don't be another delusional Toronto fan and over value both players.

Beach you guys have been begging for him for so don't play that game.

Bolland, Beach and a 2nd rounder I would consider that...but that is maximizing it to Toronto's favor.

I like Grabo and Gunnarsson. I think Toronto maximized value and the Hawks would balk but both guys from Toronto are the right age and in the right salary range. I think Chicago would do this deal...Kruger has made progress over last year.

Deal nothing more from Chicago!

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01-09-2012, 07:39 PM
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Frolik is far from a bust....2 time 20 goal scorer. Down year for sure.
Wrong.
Down year? He had 11 goals last year. Was last year a down year too?
Bustbustbustbustbustbust.

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Wrong.
Bolland is 3rd-liner. Normally, a very good 3rd-liner and probably would have more value than Grabovski, but as just about every Hawks fan has pointed out, he's struggling mightily.

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and I may have undervalued Gunnarsson. He was good last year and emerged this year. But don't say he is a top pairing just because he is having a career year.
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Beach you guys have been begging for him for so don't play that game.
Who in their right mind would beg for Beach? That is quite an ass-pull.

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Evidently not.

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01-09-2012, 09:29 PM
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I'm not gonna lie, I'd deal Bolland but only for a star LW or C.

The list:
C Ryan Getzlaf
LW Zach Parise
LW Bobby Ryan.

That might be it... Bolland's true value is his lockdown defensive prowess. Although his O hasn't been there (especially in SH siutations), he's been good defensively. I know people are going to be like, LOL you're not getting those players for Bolland. And you'd be right, we're not... That's the type of deal the Hawks would need to get to consider moving Bolland.

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01-09-2012, 10:54 PM
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I'm not gonna lie, I'd deal Bolland but only for a star LW or C.

The list:
C Ryan Getzlaf
LW Zach Parise
LW Bobby Ryan.

That might be it... Bolland's true value is his lockdown defensive prowess. Although his O hasn't been there (especially in SH siutations), he's been good defensively. I know people are going to be like, LOL you're not getting those players for Bolland. And you'd be right, we're not... That's the type of deal the Hawks would need to get to consider moving Bolland.
Well that's just ridiculous, even with your explanation. That's absurd and untrue.

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01-10-2012, 01:38 AM
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don't flame me hawks fans, but could a deal be built around Beauchemin or Visnovsky and Bolland?

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01-10-2012, 02:03 AM
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Beauchemin is a guy I have been targeting at the deadline but absolutely not at the expense of Bolland. How about some combination of Frolik, Bickell, and Pirri?

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Beauchemin is a guy I have been targeting at the deadline but absolutely not at the expense of Bolland. How about some combination of Frolik, Bickell, and Pirri?
I don't think that's going to work. Then again, I don't think we should give up Lubo or Beauch for Bolland. Maybe I'm in the minority, here. I can say that Frolik isn't happening.

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